Help with buying a tailor made desktop.

DECEiFER · 26-10-2009 10:26pm

After further thought about my previous post, I'd recommend you change your motherboard.

Here's one:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173450
(or http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=487820)

You can use this 1600MHz RAM with it, which is better than my earlier 1333MHz Kingston recommendation.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173129

I can't seem to download the QVL from ASUS to check if these exact modules will work. You can try yourself now, and if it doesn't work, try tomorrow.

http://asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=j02KziJq95KbCQNm&templete=2

Just click the Download tab, select any OS, and click on Qualified Vendor List. Choose the second on the list to download supported 1600 modules in document format, and find an exact or an approximation of the module kit's model number. The new module kit I have recommended is CMX4GX3M2A1600C8, so I'd use a shorter search term (i.e. CMX4GX3M2A) on the document's list and see what comes up.

One final thing. If you look at the Komplett link I posted, it will tell you what "Accessories" (i.e. memory) modules can be bought alongside it. Take your pick! I'd also check the "Manufacturer P/N" (model number) on any of the models on Komplett you show interest in and see if it's in the QVL before buying, just to be certain.

Four of a kind · 27-10-2009 4:15pm

Ok guys, I've changed the mobo and Ram based on the previous two comments suggested by deciefer.

Can someone lend their comments to this list now?

Are these mobo and Ram components compatable?

CPU - Intel Core i5 750 2.66GHz Socket LGA1156 8MB L3 Cache - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172755...roduct_reviews - £149.68

Mobo -ASUS P7P55D PRO iP55 Socket LGA 1156 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173450 - £136.84

SPU - Corsair 650W HX modular - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173104 - £90.84

RAM - Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz/PC3-12800 XMS3 i5 Memory Kit CL8(8-8-8-24) 1.65V - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173129 - £105.00

Hard drive - Samsung spinpoint F3 1TB HD SATA 2 7200rpm 32mb CACHE - OEM - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804 - £56.94

Optical Drive - LG GH22N50 22 x DVD RW DL +SAM SATA BLACK retail kit - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172821 - £17.68

Case - Coolermaster HAP 922 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164961 - £89.19

Graphics Card - ASUS Radeon HD 5850 1GB GDDR5 - http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=499572 - €277

CPU Cooler - NH-U12P SE2 Dual Fan Quiet CPU Cooler, Intel and AMD - http://www.quietpc.com/ie-en-eur/pro...rs/nh-u12p-se2 - €71

Fans -Kaze Jyuni 1200RPM Slip Stream 120mm Fan - http://www.quietpc.com/ie-en-eur/pro...kazejyuni-1200 - €8.64 x 3 = €24

apart from windows 7 64 bit and the wireless N card am I missing anything else?

jonny72 · 27-10-2009 4:52pm

Surely you can order this whole lot cheaper from one site - hardwareversand.de

Leman_Russ · 27-10-2009 4:53pm

jonny72 wrote: »

Surely you can order this whole lot cheaper from one site - hardwareversand.de

It's not cheaper when you have to hire a German to sort out any RMA you might have.

Stick with Ebuyer.

Four of a kind · 27-10-2009 4:55pm

lol! So how's it shaping up then? Are all the components compatable? mobo-ram-spu???

Leman_Russ · 27-10-2009 5:32pm

Yeah everything is fine. I would still rather go with a Gigabyte UD3 or UD4 Mobo and the Kingston Ram, but it's your call and what you have picked is by no means poor

Edit: Wait, that ram is no Good. Wow, that's a pretty bad labelling error I hope. The P55 Chipset is supposed to have a vDIMM of 1.5v not 1.65v. That Ram needs too much voltage.

Four of a kind · 27-10-2009 5:37pm

Leman_Russ wrote: »

Yeah everything is fine. I would still rather go with a Gigabyte UD3 or UD4 Mobo and the Kingston Ram, but it's your call and what you have picked is by no means poor

Edit: Wait, that ram is no Good. Wow, that's a pretty bad labelling error I hope. The P55 Chipset is supposed to have a vDIMM of 1.5v not 1.65v. That Ram needs too much voltage.

What do you mean? Do i have to edit my set up again?;)

Leman_Russ · 27-10-2009 6:34pm

Four of a kind wrote: »

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What do you mean? Do i have to edit my set up again?;)

Yeah, just swap the Ram for a Ram that runs at 1.5v, not 1.65v.

And get a Gigabyte Board :P (j/k)

But Srsly tho, change the ram for a kit that runs at 1.5v or you'll fry your CPU (Not likely, but maybe)

Four of a kind · 27-10-2009 7:21pm

Leman_Russ wrote: »

Yeah, just swap the Ram for a Ram that runs at 1.5v, not 1.65v.

And get a Gigabyte Board :P (j/k)

But Srsly tho, change the ram for a kit that runs at 1.5v or you'll fry your CPU (Not likely, but maybe)

Could someone link me to the specific RAM that will also be compatable with my mobo? It's all very confusing, I just don't want to get something and for it to not work. Thanks.

Leman_Russ · 27-10-2009 7:32pm

Four of a kind wrote: »

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Could someone link me to the specific RAM that will also be compatable with my mobo? It's all very confusing, I just don't want to get something and for it to not work. Thanks.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158711

This is the Ram I use and it works incredibly. I managed to get it to 6-6-6 timings at 1200Mhz but it also worked at 1600 10-10-10

Either way, the performance is just fine

And it's Great Value, and Kingston are a fantastic brand.

And don't worry, It can get confusing. Basically the new LGA1156 Socket asks for Low Wattage 1.5v Ram.

Four of a kind · 27-10-2009 7:39pm

Ok Leman Russ...how about this set up now with your suggested RAM?
Christ this is awful complicated for a newcomer to the scene, but am enjoying the learning experience.

CPU - Intel Core i5 750 2.66GHz Socket LGA1156 8MB L3 Cache - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172755...roduct_reviews - £149.68

Mobo -ASUS P7P55D PRO iP55 Socket LGA 1156 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173450 - £136.84

SPU - Corsair 650W HX modular - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173104 - £90.84

RAM - Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz i5 Memory Kit CL9 1.5V - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158711 - £77.20

Hard drive - Samsung spinpoint F3 1TB HD SATA 2 7200rpm 32mb CACHE - OEM - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804 - £56.94

Optical Drive - LG GH22N50 22 x DVD RW DL +SAM SATA BLACK retail kit - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172821 - £17.68

Case - Coolermaster HAP 922 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164961 - £89.19

Graphics Card - ASUS Radeon HD 5850 1GB GDDR5 - http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=499572 - €277

CPU Cooler - NH-U12P SE2 Dual Fan Quiet CPU Cooler, Intel and AMD - http://www.quietpc.com/ie-en-eur/pro...rs/nh-u12p-se2 - €71

Fans -Kaze Jyuni 1200RPM Slip Stream 120mm Fan - http://www.quietpc.com/ie-en-eur/pro...kazejyuni-1200 - €8.64 x 3 = €24

apart from windows 7 64 bit and the wireless N card am I missing anything else?

Leman_Russ · 27-10-2009 8:35pm

As the Penguin said to the Helicopter, "Flange".

Errr, I mean yes, that looks perfect now.

DECEiFER · 27-10-2009 8:37pm

My apologies, I wasn't aware that using more than 1.5v RAM was going to create stability/heat issues on the i5 boards. My kit runs at 1.9v on the LGA-775 sockets.

I think what you have selected FOAK is a system you can be happy with. You have everything you need to get going, inc. the WLAN Adapter and OS. Anything else is an optional extra.

Enjoy it!!!

Four of a kind · 27-10-2009 8:44pm

Thank you guys for all the help over the past few days. Without ye I would'nt have been able to see past my own nose in this area. I'll get to work ordering the components and then when I've it all together I'll pop up a few photo's for ye.

Once again, thanks to everyone who contributed on this thread.

:D:D:D:D:D

Leman_Russ · 27-10-2009 8:59pm

Always glad to help. Try and have someone to help you first time though, makes learning so much easier

Four of a kind · 28-10-2009 8:28pm

i'm trying to register my contact number on ebuyer.com but I keep getting the "not a valid telephone number" error??

any clues?

Leman_Russ · 28-10-2009 8:44pm

Four of a kind wrote: »

i'm trying to register my contact number on ebuyer.com but I keep getting the "not a valid telephone number" error??

any clues?

Make one up.

Ebuyers site only works with UK Numbers, so make up a UK number :P

For the Postcode, you have to put REP 123 or REP IRE for their internal warehouse system to know you live in Ireland, and cause you are in Ireland, they contact you via email rather than phone

Four of a kind · 28-10-2009 8:52pm

got number sorted...but now have "property name/number"-which I made up.

And I put in REP IRE and REP 123 but both failed.

Leman_Russ · 28-10-2009 8:54pm

Four of a kind wrote: »

got number sorted...but now have "property name/number"-which I made up.

And I put in REP IRE and REP 123 but both failed.

http://static.ebuyer.com/customer/enotes2/index.html?rb=0&action=U2hvd1R5cGU=&intNoteCatID=6&intNoteTypeID=83

Property Name/Number should be your house number, like if you lived at 56 Bob Road, you'd put 56 in that field

Try REP IRE and REP 123 with and without the spaces. One of them should work. REP 123 worked for me anyway

Four of a kind · 28-10-2009 8:56pm

Leman_Russ wrote: »

http://static.ebuyer.com/customer/enotes2/index.html?rb=0&action=U2hvd1R5cGU=&intNoteCatID=6&intNoteTypeID=83

Property Name/Number should be your house number, like if you lived at 56 Bob Road, you'd put 56 in that field

Try REP IRE and REP 123 with and without the spaces. One of them should work. REP 123 worked for me anyway

Got it sorted. Thanks Leman, that worked!

Leman_Russ · 28-10-2009 8:57pm

Four of a kind wrote: »

Got it sorted. Thanks Leman, that worked!

Glad to oblige

Four of a kind · 29-10-2009 1:33am

I've a problem selecting a suitable wireless card for my build. I've already ordered Windows 7 64-bit, but my mate who's going to be putting my rig together said he can't find a wireless card thats compatable with 64 bit??!!

I want something thats stable esp when gaming online.

Can any of you guys link me to a suitable card? I have the silver netopia broadband unit as my broadband .

DECEiFER · 29-10-2009 3:20am

Four of a kind wrote: »

I've a problem selecting a suitable wireless card for my build. I've already ordered Windows 7 64-bit, but my mate who's going to be putting my rig together said he can't find a wireless card thats compatable with 64 bit??!!

I want something thats stable esp when gaming online.

Can any of you guys link me to a suitable card? I have the silver netopia broadband unit as my broadband .

There's plenty out there.

My friend uses an el cheapo USB adapter he got from Ebuyer and it works fine on his Windows 7 x64 OS. Hell, the drivers are even installed by Windows Update (again, el cheapo). Another friend's new laptop has 7 x64 on it and the built-in device works without the need for a driver installation.

Chance this (not the same as my friend's no-name brand, but should work nevertheless):
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158927

leninbenjamin · 29-10-2009 9:28am

Four of a kind wrote: »

I've a problem selecting a suitable wireless card for my build. I've already ordered Windows 7 64-bit, but my mate who's going to be putting my rig together said he can't find a wireless card thats compatable with 64 bit??!!

I want something thats stable esp when gaming online.

Can any of you guys link me to a suitable card? I have the silver netopia broadband unit as my broadband .

well he didn't look very hard

this one will work. round €30 delivered.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=NW-014-EX&tool=3

btw, don't use a USB dongle if you plan on doing online gaming.

Leman_Russ · 29-10-2009 9:46am

Four of a kind wrote: »

I've a problem selecting a suitable wireless card for my build. I've already ordered Windows 7 64-bit, but my mate who's going to be putting my rig together said he can't find a wireless card thats compatable with 64 bit??!!

I want something thats stable esp when gaming online.

Can any of you guys link me to a suitable card? I have the silver netopia broadband unit as my broadband .

99% of cards will be automagically detected by Windows 7.

I am using W7 64 bit too, with a crappy belkin card that doesn't even have 64bit drivers to download, and it automatically got generic chipset drivers for me

In short, don't sweat it too much

Four of a kind · 29-10-2009 3:44pm

thank you guys.

Four of a kind · 30-10-2009 3:35pm

Here's the final set-up that I ordered and should have delivered next week. Used ebuyer, overclockers and Komplett.

The total sum inc deliver for all was €1200, which I know is probably a few hundred over priced but considering my budget was €1,500 and its my first time to spec out a custom build I guess I can only learn

Once again thanks to every one that contributed to this thread with there expert advice and tips. Really could not have done it any other way.

I'll pop up a few pics when I get it sorted.

Thanks.

CPU - Intel Core i5 750 2.66GHz Socket LGA1156 8MB L3 Cache

Mobo -ASUS P7P55D PRO iP55 Socket LGA 1156 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard

SPU - Corsair 650W HX modular

RAM - Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz i5 Memory Kit CL9 1.5V

Hard drive - Samsung spinpoint F3 1TB HD SATA 2 7200rpm 32mb CACHE - OEM

Optical Drive - LG GH22N50 22 x DVD RW DL +SAM SATA BLACK retail kit

Case - Coolermaster HAP 922

Graphics Card - Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 1GB GDDR5

CPU Cooler - NH-U12P SE2 Dual Fan Quiet CPU Cooler, Intel and AMD

Fans -Kaze Jyuni 1200RPM Slip Stream 120mm Fan (three of these)

Windows 7 - 64-bit Home Premium

Wireless card - Edimax EW-7727In nMax 300Mbps Wireless Desktop PCI Network Adapter

MrMagic1 · 30-10-2009 4:06pm

Four of a kind wrote: »

Wireless card - Edimax EW-7727In nMax 300Mbps Wireless Desktop PCI Network Adapter

Pointless buying an "N" adapter if your wifi router is the Netopia "G"

Four of a kind · 30-10-2009 4:55pm

MrMagic1 wrote: »

Pointless buying an "N" adapter if your wifi router is the Netopia "G"

It's backward compatable to G.

Leman_Russ · 30-10-2009 5:41pm

MrMagic1 wrote: »

Pointless buying an "N" adapter if your wifi router is the Netopia "G"

It lets him have an upgrade path for a N Router.

Do you tell the person buying a 5850 that unless they have 3 Monitors it is pointless?

Help with buying a tailor made desktop.

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