Dragon Age: Origins Question

Polar101

I ended up with the "digital deluxe edition" for PC. I'm about two hours in the game now, seems quite excellent so far. Combat seemed really easy, even on "hard" difficulty - I guess it'll get harder later on.

grizzly

I pre-ordered from dvd.co.uk. Does anyone know which extra DLC comes with pre-orders? and what is worth picking up before starting a new campaign?

Griffin87

hope my game is there when i get home :pac:

Nehaxak

wayne040576 wrote: »

I fixed your post. G2play's legal service is a grey area at best. It's still unclear where they get the keys from. They claim it's from cheaper regions but there have already been a few cases were their 'suppliers' gave them stolen keys.

I've heard that argument before, mostly when g2play was just selling steam games cheap to Polish and Czech gamers until steam got pissed off about it and start banning groups of keys sold by g2play in order to disrupt them selling games at more realistic prices than that sold directly by steam at exhorbatant markups.

I can understand steam needing a markup in order to cover costs related to digital distribution but a typical 60% markup direct from Steam is just plain wrong.

If g2play wasn't there selling the keys cheaper, I honestly can only say most of my pc games would be pirated.

They do source from other markets and sometimes in the past you could only play those games in non English language or tied to your regional ip. Now all their games are usually global or multilingual with no such restrictions.

I've bought a lot from them myself over the years and so far so good, no problems as of yet at all. I also bought win 7 64 Ultimate from them before it was officially realeased, with discounts and promo code it cost me 97 euro.

Jim

Polar101 wrote: »

I ended up with the "digital deluxe edition" for PC. I'm about two hours in the game now, seems quite excellent so far. Combat seemed really easy, even on "hard" difficulty - I guess it'll get harder later on.

Face meltingly hard

Sephiroth_dude

Really enjoying it,Im dreading the first boss fight though :-/.

Creature

The boss fights can be tough alright, but if you use the right spells then you'll get by. There are some insanely powerful spells in this game, Crushing Prison for example. I'm not looking forward to meeting any enemies that use that spell

Kiith

Arsonist wrote: »

just started playing which is best race and position to go with

No such think really. Just pick something you enjoy.

mewso

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

I was really really enjoying this game (playing on xbox)

but i've just been glitched out of six or more hours of play time because I can't

smash the ****ing metal doors in the fade in golem form. it just says 'cannot pick this lock' and punching it does nothing. cant complete the ****ing quest and get out of the fade without that. and now I dont know if I can even load a previous save, or should I start again and lose 18 hours of play time.

very, very

very annoyed

I'm on PC but I may be able to help...

I had issues opening some doors as the Golem and found that if clicking on the door didn't work doing the third special skill usually did it anyway as long as you are standing right at the door. i.e. the skill where he pulls a boulder from the ground and throws it opened the doors for me when in front of them. When clicking on the door worked it was the same animation (boulder from ground etc.) which was what made me try it so this may work on xbox too.

humanji

Arsonist wrote: »

just started playing which is best race and position to go with

All the races are pretty similar in most respects, with just their starting area differeing. The elves get a few racist remarks thrown at them. The main difference with whether you play a mage, warrior or rogue. They're all fun to play, though I think the mage is my favourite (the spell effects are fancy! ). But one thing that annoyed me is that if you don't pick a rogue, there's a fair few locked chests and things that you can't pick open until you get yourself a rogue in the party, and even then the first rogue you get isn't the best at it.

I actually found the classes to be a different enough from normal fantasy RPG's to be a refreshing change. The warriors fairly kick ass and look the part, the rogues aren't as delicate as in normal games and can hold their own in a fight and the mages are fairly powerful from the start which reflects the kind of fearful power they should have in other games.

Burgo

Loving it so far Though, one thing that I find quite quite annoying is the fact you cant bash locks as I tend not to use a rogue character it can be a pain not being able to open locked chests and such. me want bash!

Making It Bad

What skill determines your lock picking ability? I can't seem to see any, although perhaps I'm not reading clearly enough...

Kiith

Making It Bad wrote: »

What skill determines your lock picking ability? I can't seem to see any, although perhaps I'm not reading clearly enough...

Cunning allows you to get higher levels of Stealing and Device Mastery.

superfly

mine still hasn't arrived yet from Play

Creature

Arsonist wrote: »

i picked the warrior and want to know how high a lvl do ineed to get to pick locks and doors
is there a way to kick in doors without the speach text coming up

No unfortunately not. That's one of the big weak points of this game. You can only open a locked door/chest with a rogue's lock picking ability. No bashing in a door or spell of opening

Stev_o

You only need one word to describe this game, epic.

Creature

Arsonist wrote: »

ok thanks wondering would it be best to play as a rogue instead getting sick of all those locks
anyone tell me if there is anything worth getting or they just there for the rogue characters

Ah I wouldn't bother. There's usually nothing of worth behind the locks anyway. Besides you can get a rogue in your party soon enough when you enter the main world map.

Griffin87

heads wrecked still havent got my copy from game

anonymous_joe

Stev_o wrote: »

You only need one word to describe this game, epic.

It's savage alright.

Also, as a rogue (memories of WoW :pac:) it's not really that handy tbh. You'd probably be best suited going as either a tank warrior or dps mage and then using someone like Zathran or Leleina as your rogue. And in fairness there are so few traps about it's not that big a deal to even carry a rogue.

Also like WoW, we're not that good, and ranged dps is much much better.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

mewso wrote: »

I'm on PC but I may be able to help...

I had issues opening some doors as the Golem and found that if clicking on the door didn't work doing the third special skill usually did it anyway as long as you are standing right at the door. i.e. the skill where he pulls a boulder from the ground and throws it opened the doors for me when in front of them. When clicking on the door worked it was the same animation (boulder from ground etc.) which was what made me try it so this may work on xbox too.

tried that loads, on all the different doors.. nothing.

I reloaded a previous save the last time and went around to the elves, dwareves, redcliffe etc just putting off the circle tower untli the very last. and it happened *again*.

I can't complete the game.

Buggy piece of ****.

sink

Creature wrote: »

The boss fights can be tough alright, but if you use the right spells then you'll get by. There are some insanely powerful spells in this game, Crushing Prison for example. I'm not looking forward to meeting any enemies that use that spell

I've come across a few dark spawn mages with that spell, and they can kill my level 15 fighter with a constitution of 38 (with additional help from some hurlocks) without him getting in a single strike. They are very lethal.

Agricola

I was thinkin of getting this but Im not a massive RPG head so Im not sure. Ive played the likes of Morrowind, Deux ex, Oblivion and Fallout 3 and really enjoyed them but thats probly cos they arent hardcore RPG's and are closer to the kind of games I mostly enjoy - 1st and 3rd person shooters.
The nearest I ever came to pausing a game to queue up attacks was VATS in Fallout3!

Would you recommend this game to me? Is it enjoyable even if your not a hardcore RPG player?

Spear

Agricola wrote: »

I was thinkin of getting this but Im not a massive RPG head so Im not sure. Ive played the likes of Morrowind, Deux ex, Oblivion and Fallout 3 and really enjoyed them but thats probly cos they arent hardcore RPG's and are closer to the kind of games I mostly enjoy - 1st and 3rd person shooters.
The nearest I ever came to pausing a game to queue up attacks was VATS in Fallout3!

Would you recommend this game to me? Is it enjoyable even if your not a hardcore RPG player?

It's not that hardcore as RPG's go. If you're comfortable enough with the pausing of the VATS systems then you should be fine with this.

Hody

Its over the shoulder camera - which gives you the impression to be in the heat of the battle or you can zoom out to isotropic view.

You actually just tell your party what to do and they will exacte it, you wont aim or shot yourself like fallout allows you and you wont swing the sword yourself as you can in Morrowind, Oblivion or the Gothic series. Maybe you have ever tried, Neverwinter Nights, Baldurs Gate, Icewind Dale or Planescape Torment - those all are from Bioware and Dragon Age is the evolution of them.

Branoic

Question for those playing as a warrior:

Where do you find people to train you in the sub-classes? I'm at level 9 now and I still haven't used up my first class specialisation point. I'm sure if I talked to Alistair he would probably teach me how to become a templar, but I don't want to be a templar. Where can I learn to become the other classes?

Griffin87

Did anyone else preorder from game.co.uk ?

i still have not got the game and it was dispatched to me on thursday 5th nov.

Burgo

Branoic wrote: »

Question for those playing as a warrior:

Where do you find people to train you in the sub-classes? I'm at level 9 now and I still haven't used up my first class specialisation point. I'm sure if I talked to Alistair he would probably teach me how to become a templar, but I don't want to be a templar. Where can I learn to become the other classes?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=950916&topic=52081333

http://dragonage.gulbsoft.org/doku.php/classes/specializations

ghouldaddy07

Is out for the PS3 tomorrow or next week?

gimme5minutes

So is there auto leveling of mobs in this like there was in oblivian? I uninstalled oblivian after 2 hours once I discovered the BS auto levelling. I mean why even have the concept of levels in the first place if every mob remains the same level relatively to the main character as he progresses? Absolute joke imo.

Kiith

gimme5minutes wrote: »

So is there auto leveling of mobs in this like there was in oblivian? I uninstalled oblivian after 2 hours once I discovered the BS auto levelling. I mean why even have the concept of levels in the first place if every mob remains the same level relatively to the main character as he progresses? Absolute joke imo.

Yes, the enemies do level up with you like in Oblivion. The only time this is really annoying though is when some random bandit group are quite tough to kill. Other then that, i like that the Darkspawn level up with you. You still hammer them once you have decent tactics, but its still occasionally a challenge.

Dont worry, it doesnt effect the game like it did in Oblivion.

grizzly

gimme5minutes wrote: »

So is there auto leveling of mobs in this like there was in oblivian? I uninstalled oblivian after 2 hours once I discovered the BS auto levelling. I mean why even have the concept of levels in the first place if every mob remains the same level relatively to the main character as he progresses? Absolute joke imo.

Because it would be dull otherwise?

Branoic

The mob auto levelling is handled a million times better than Oblivion's "every p1ss-ant bandit now suddenly has ultra rare obsidian armour and glass daggers or whatever"

Blowfish

gimme5minutes wrote: »

So is there auto leveling of mobs in this like there was in oblivian? I uninstalled oblivian after 2 hours once I discovered the BS auto levelling. I mean why even have the concept of levels in the first place if every mob remains the same level relatively to the main character as he progresses? Absolute joke imo.

The biggest problem with Oblivion was more that the difficulty of areas really didn't vary much if at all, one cavern/dungeon/oblivion gate was the same difficulty as the next. This combined with the auto level scaling meant that once you learnt their tactics, you just breezed through absolutely everything.

With DA:O, the mobs do auto-level with you, but the areas themselves vary in difficulty and that difficulty is maintained with the scaling. There also seems to be minimum/maximum caps to the mobs in an area, i.e. the mobs would scale between say levels 9-14 only. If you are lower than 9 it'll be tough, higher than 14 it'll be easy and inbetween it'll be about right. It means that they can make it more non-linear as there'll be a bunch of areas which you can visit for certain level ranges and you can choose which order to do them in, without completely overlevelling any of them. There are also 'boss' type mobs who are at a set difficulty that will completely destroy you at the start, yet you'll be able to beat them later on.

All in all, it actually works fairly well.

Griffin87

game arrived yesterday for me.

I'm about seven hours in as a warrior with 2H weopen. The game is great really good story and voice acting. I love the combat it looks great and very violent.

Game of the year for me

bSlick

Got the game and dont like it. Just seems like one big cutscene so far. Most of my time is spent listening to some character talk about something and then clicking a reply. Is that all there is to this game?

BattlingCheese

bSlick wrote: »

Is that all there is to this game?

No but as it's a RPG game with a lovingly built history and lore then the story and cutscenes do play a big part.

It's not going to be to everybodies taste but personally i love the quieter moments during the cutscenes and have spent ages reading all the codex entries.

bSlick

I think I'm done with this game. Cant understand the high reviews. 95% of the time is spent in cutscenes listening so some random characters blab about some crap. If I wanted entertainment without interaction I'd watch tv or read a book.

grizzly

Have you played other games that are heavy on story? I've found this game is better for this aspect then Mass Effect. In Dragon age my combat/story seems about 50/50 with more combat at times (when I'm stuck).

Kiith

bSlick wrote: »

I think I'm done with this game. Cant understand the high reviews. 95% of the time is spent in cutscenes listening so some random characters blab about some crap. If I wanted entertainment without interaction I'd watch tv or read a book.

It just sounds like you have a hatred for RPG's. So it should be no surprise that you dont like a 60-hour RPG...

Branoic

bSlick wrote: »

I think I'm done with this game. Cant understand the high reviews. 95% of the time is spent in cutscenes listening so some random characters blab about some crap. If I wanted entertainment without interaction I'd watch tv or read a book.

Have you ever played any other Bioware RPG?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

i'd like to know where the hell they got 60h from, I finished it in 49h49m36s (if i'd know this i would have waited an extra 13 seconds to finish it) and I did just about every quest, i think Ihad one in most locations that I didn't do.. but even those I had mostly done just wasn't bothered finishing.. no way they would have taken ten hours

Kiith

Didnt they say a possible 120 hours with all the side quests? What % are you through the game? You can see in your Heroic Achievements tab.

Making It Bad

bSlick wrote: »

I think I'm done with this game. Cant understand the high reviews. 95% of the time is spent in cutscenes listening so some random characters blab about some crap. If I wanted entertainment without interaction I'd watch tv or read a book.

Yeah... stick to the Call of Duty.

Pugsley

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

i'd like to know where the hell they got 60h from, I finished it in 49h49m36s (if i'd know this i would have waited an extra 13 seconds to finish it) and I did just about every quest, i think Ihad one in most locations that I didn't do.. but even those I had mostly done just wasn't bothered finishing.. no way they would have taken ten hours

Took me 46:45:13

Had a few of the mages quests left, and the a few for the 'well connected barman' in the Gnashers, but otherwise all of them that I could see. Also spent a lot of my time in camp (had 2 of the part at +100, 2 others 75+ and the rest over 50) speaking with the locals. Running through the game you could probably do it in under 30 hours no bother (true speed running, probably under 5 or 10)

Can't say I feel cheated though, best RPG since Baldurs Gate 2! Loved every second of it, great characters, the voice acting was spot on (even if the models looked a bit stiff at times, but with the amount of dialogue, perfectly excusible), and the story progressed into a suitably epic climax.

Also wasn't as shiney and lovely as most modern RPGs, some really grim things in here, especially liked

a touch of matricide going to kill Flemeth

for Morrigan, her entire back story was great, and how it unfolds slowly as the story progresses, great stuff. Also the entire quest with the Dalish Elves was great, very grim altogether.

I think I'm done with this game. Cant understand the high reviews. 95% of the time is spent in cutscenes listening so some random characters blab about some crap. If I wanted entertainment without interaction I'd watch tv or read a book.

I think you looking for action adventure, even if alot of them these days do have the RPG tag on them, their very different

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

my amount complete is only 50%.. what the ****?

did I miss half this game?

Jumpy

Haha. I just got "Witch Gone Wild" last night.

Im a dwarf.

I have suspicions that you can do the same with the Elf. The main reason I dont try to keep him happy.

The background banter between characters in this game is brilliant.

I have just had the elf accusing Oghren of drinking his own piss.

Blowfish

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

my amount complete is only 50%.. what the ****?

did I miss half this game?

There is different content depending on what side you chose at various points. It's probably not even possible to have 100% completion until you have multiple playthroughs.

Spear

Patch 1.01b is out with some curious changes.

Changelist:
http://forum.dlh.net/thread.php?threadid=33990

Download:
http://www.patches-scrolls.de/dragon_age_origins.php


Notably:

slightly increased attack, defense, and damage scores for all party members at Normal difficulty

Jumpy

Easy mode doesnt need to be easier. Its perfect the way it is.

Normal however can be tough.

Sarn

Spear wrote: »

slightly increased attack, defense, and damage scores for all party members at Normal difficulty

That was already in the previous patch (at least it was 3 days ago).

# fixed an issue with Dragon Age and Windows Game Explorer
# updated Visual C runtime libraries

are the new bits.

Normal can be difficult at times.