Smallpox vaccine caused AIDS

EXODUS251022

London Times
Edition 1 MON 11 MAY 1987

Smallpox vaccine 'triggered Aids virus'

6th

Exodus, posting links without discussion is lazy. Can I ask that you expand and contribute?

King Mob

EXODUS251022 wrote: »

London Times
Edition 1 MON 11 MAY 1987
Smallpox vaccine 'triggered Aids virus'

You're joking right?

Smallpox virus:


HIV virus:


There is no evidence that the smallpox vaccine caused AIDS.
There is no mechanism by which it could have caused AIDS.
To believe this you have to ignore the the fact that other similar viruses exist in the animal kingdom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simian_Immunodeficiency_Virus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feline_immunodeficiency_virus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_immunodeficiency_virus

Unless of course monkeys, cows and cat all got smallpox vaccines as well.

EXODUS251022

no i wasnt joking just posting a lazy link that was in the paper, i didnt write the article, pearce wright did, i simply brought it in, but i think the hep b vac in 1979 in ny and polio vaccines in africa around the same time were the real vaccines that got AIDS really started.

London Times
Edition 1 MON 11 MAY 1987

Smallpox vaccine 'triggered Aids virus'

BY PEARCE WRIGHT, SCIENCE EDITOR

The Aids epidemic may have been triggered by the mass vaccination campaign which eradicated smallpox. The World Health Organization, which masterminded the 13-year campaign, is studying new scientific evidence suggesting that immunization with the smallpox vaccine Vaccinia awakened the unsuspected, dormant human immuno defence virus infection (HIV).

EXODUS251022

aids is a manmade disease, this is obvious to anybody who actually looks into it, the us govt and its yes men around the globe try to cover it up, but there will always be people too afraid to face the reality and implications this brings.

The Origin of AIDS and HIV May Not Be What You Have Learned

even recently bayer was caught having infected thousands of people in the us, europe and asia with a vaccine that was 100% known to be infected with HIV.
Bayer division 'knowingly sold' HIV-infected protein

theres also a video on it on youtube from msn/nbc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg-52mHIjhs

kissinger the nobel peace prize winner wanted population control in 1974, aids came along a few years later.

Nobel winner supported biological warfare as form of population control
Third World de-population has been U.S. strategic policy since '74

so would i be considered crazy for thinking that maybe, just maybe there could be something slipped into h1n1 vaccine by mistake on purpose, that will take a few years to materialize, by then it will be too late, i've heard theories that it may affect the ability of those recieving it to reproduce, another population control experiment, 35 years more advanced than aids.

World Population Control — U.S. Strategy and UN Policy Program

At the BBC it is perfectly OK to wish death upon large swathes of mankind

in August 1988 Prince Philip told Deutsche Press Agentur "in the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."

bonkey

EXODUS251022 wrote: »

i simply brought it in, but i think the hep b vac in 1979 in ny and polio vaccines in africa around the same time were the real vaccines that got AIDS really started.

You're adding a link, then, about something you don't believe to be true.

It doesn't really leave much discuss, does it?

"Here's something I don't believe".
"I don't believe it either".
...
<tumbleweed>

King Mob

There simply is no evidence to support the Idea that AIDS and HIV were caused by vaccines.

The only way to believe that they did is to start with the assumption that all doctors are evil and believe unquestioningly what you are told by anti vaccinationist sites.

This theory has no basis in reality.

derry

King Mob wrote: »

There simply is no evidence to support the Idea that AIDS and HIV were caused by vaccines.

The only way to believe that they did is to start with the assumption that all doctors are evil and believe unquestioningly what you are told by anti vaccinationist sites.

This theory has no basis in reality.

wow finally your getting it all doctors are evil.Certainly all the big doctors in high places like London or New York are .The doctor in the bog of allen is probably just a doctor
Lets not forget that most big Pharma history was helping Hitler big time and there we have it All big Pharma is evil.Big Pharma inputs to the big doctors in the main cities
And lets not forget operation paper clip after WW2 when the USA extracted all the prison of war camp doctors who did all these evil experiment and then gave them all new a new ID in the USA .After that they made them in charge of the WHO so that they could continue experiments on the rest of the world.

See where getting your thinking arranged in the right way leads you to the truth so work on your assumptions


derry

6th

Statements of fact should be backed up though.

seamus

All that article really proves is just how little the world knew about AIDS in the 1980s and how the media have always been acting at the same unsubstantiated scaremongering bull.

macshadow

Here is the trailer for a new Aids/Hiv documentary film.
http://www.houseofnumbers.com/

Duiske

seamus wrote: »

All that article really proves is just how little the world knew about AIDS in the 1980s and how the media have always been acting at the same unsubstantiated scaremongering bull.

+1. And if,as the article claims, the smallpox vacination program which ran from 1967 until 1980 caused the Hiv virus, how then would they explain the following ?

During the last few years it has become possible not only to determine whether HIV is present in a blood or plasma sample, but also to determine the particular subtype of the virus. Studying the subtype of virus of some of the earliest known instances of HIV infection can help to provide clues about the time it first appeared in humans and its subsequent evolution.

Four of the earliest known instances of HIV infection are as follows:

1.A plasma sample taken in 1959 from an adult male living in what is now the Democratic Republic of the Congo.9
2.A lymph node sample taken in 1960 from an adult female, also from the Democratic Republic of the Congo.10
3.HIV found in tissue samples from an American teenager who died in St. Louis in 1969.11
4.HIV found in tissue samples from a Norwegian sailor who died around 1976.12
A 1998 analysis of the plasma sample from 1959 suggested that HIV-1 was introduced into humans around the 1940s or the early 1950s.

http://www.avert.org/origin-aids-hiv.htm

The HIV virus evolved from SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus) which just had flu type symptoms in simians, Ape handlers contracted the disease and scientists started to notice their partners and children dying young with the same symptoms. This then progressed to AIDS. It was not triggered by anything and just because theres a lot of truthful vaccine bashing going around doesn't mean you can blame everything on vaccination programmes.

Vadrefjorde

dojoejoe might just be on to something there

Actually it was the polio vacine which caused the spread of HIV not smallpox.
It was ;)trialled in equatorial africa hence the now hotbed of aids there.
It was trialled in in triple dose in the 80's among the gay community in New york as a cure for STD's.

http://www.medicalveritas.com/images/00027.pdf

marco_polo

Vadrefjorde wrote: »

dojoejoe might just be on to something there

Actually it was the polio vacine which caused the spread of HIV not smallpox.
It was ;)trialled in equatorial africa hence the now hotbed of aids there.
It was trialled in in triple dose in the 80's among the gay community in New york as a cure for STD's.

http://www.medicalveritas.com/images/00027.pdf

Don't think so.

http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/pdf/10.1086/319612?cookieSet=1

In summary, no evidence supports the idea that chimpanzee
cells were actually used to make polio vaccine, and the supposed
geographical correlation between vaccination and AIDS is an
illusion. Moreover, the ancillary virological and epidemiological
data are against the OPV-AIDS hypothesis. The River is a house
of cards built on a swamp of conspiracy theory, unsubstantiated
insinuations, and character assassination. It is fundamentally
meretricious and does not withstand critical analysis.

http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/node/2648