LICENCES ARRIVED!!!

It wasn't me! · 28-10-2009 1:01pm

No argument here on that front. If .73 is a default, that's one thing, makes it tough if you want to own a 20 bore however (which one is it?) But if it's just the last thing used, then what happens when two centrefire rifles of different calibres are processed in series? My .25-06 could end up being a .25-06 and .223, for example. It's serious in that respect.

rrpc · 28-10-2009 1:07pm

It wasn't me! wrote: »

No argument here on that front. If .73 is a default, that's one thing, makes it tough if you want to own a 20 bore however (which one is it?) But if it's just the last thing used, then what happens when two centrefire rifles of different calibres are processed in series? My .25-06 could end up being a .25-06 and .223, for example. It's serious in that respect.

I don't think that's what's happening though. They're not using the second field for calibre for rifles and pistols, just for shotguns.

fat_tony has a licence for a Rifle of .22 inches of 0.73 :eek:

Kryten · 28-10-2009 1:33pm

Bummer for buying cartridges. If you have your licence saying .73inch, you technically cannot buy 12 Guage.

(Unless it says somewhere on the box of cartridges the calibre in inches)

Sparks · 28-10-2009 4:22pm

bunny shooter wrote: »

Legal, despite what the guidelines/legislation says ?
Makie upie stuff again :eek:

BS, the legislation says the super can issue the authorisation letter (for a period of one year) and now that the moderators are back off the restricted list, there's no legal reason they can't. Unless you've seen something I missed (not impossible by a long shot).
It's just that we were trying to move away from that. But if you need a stopgap measure, it's there...

rrpc · 28-10-2009 4:34pm

Sparks wrote: »

BS, the legislation says the super can issue the authorisation letter (for a period of one year) and now that the moderators are back off the restricted list, there's no legal reason they can't. Unless you've seen something I missed (not impossible by a long shot).
It's just that we were trying to move away from that. But if you need a stopgap measure, it's there...

Actually having it on the licence isn't strictly according to the law. It can be implied from the law, but it's not specifically stated that 'silencers' need a seperate licence or be stated specifically on the 'parent' licence.

An authorisation or a permit are perfectly valid substitutions for a firearms certificate and there's been no change there.

So do you want to retract that 'makie upie' comment bunny?

LB6 · 28-10-2009 4:39pm

Even if they were gone metric - .22in would convert to .5588cm - so rule that one out too!

rrpc · 28-10-2009 4:54pm

LB6 wrote: »

Even if they were gone metric - .22in would convert to .5588cm - so rule that one out too!

Ahem! decimal point in wrong place alert :eek:

I'll go clean my Pardini revolver

LB6 · 28-10-2009 5:02pm

Tis the voices I tell ya

Knew I wasn't gone stupid - I said .5588cm

If we were to move the decimal point - 5.588 - then it would be mm

ranger4 · 28-10-2009 5:44pm

Recieved my Licences today, applied for 500 rounds but only 100 on each Licence, have you guys found this with your ammo Limits.

rrpc · 28-10-2009 6:03pm

ranger4 wrote: »

Recieved my Licences today, applied for 500 rounds but only 100 on each Licence, have you guys found this with your ammo Limits.

Some have, some haven't.

bunny shooter had all his reduced to 100, someone else had 1000 reduced to 750 and someone else got the 5000 asked for.

So a mixed bag.

jwshooter · 28-10-2009 7:11pm

firearms licencing in ireland is a lucky dip !.

if the super wakes up in a bad humor your fecked .

no other group in irish society are subjected to the whim of one person ,if this was happening to a minority group like travelers it would end up in the european courts.

WHAT are the nargc etc ,doing about it ?.

boc121 · 28-10-2009 7:17pm

Why did we need photos if they dont appear on the cert

Our man in Havana · 28-10-2009 7:30pm

They would be for the records.

Cass · 28-10-2009 7:49pm

Same as all the other information we all supplied. Between firearms, driving, passport, medical, welfare and numerous other agencies and departments and the information we supply them there will be quite a dossier on each person.

Big brother is watching. Sleep with one eye open and the tinfoil hat at the ready.

TMC121 · 28-10-2009 8:51pm

So if your super is in a bad mood the rifle you have licensed for the past 10 years you suddenly don't have a good reason to own it
Or in a case I recently heard of the super wishes to reduce the amount of firearms in his district so he ok's the applicant for his fox rifle but will not issue the license for a .22 CZ for bunny shooting.

Who makes up these rules?
Do superintendents have the right to decide they no longer want firearms of a particular type or there are too many firearms in their district?

Considering the legislation states you can hold a firearm subject to good reason, that's not a limited number as some supers believe (3 was the maximum mentioned to me by another club member, so he was informed by the powers that be)

Where's the equality in this interpretation of the law?
Is each citizen not in title to a fair hearing without having the decision predetermined before hand?
This is getting worse.

jwshooter · 28-10-2009 9:49pm

ezridax wrote: »

Same as all the other information we all supplied. Between firearms, driving, passport, medical, welfare and numerous other agencies and departments and the information we supply them there will be quite a dossier on each person.

Big brother is watching. Sleep with one eye open and the tinfoil hat at the ready.

ya but this big brother would not find its ass with two hands and a satnav

jwshooter · 28-10-2009 9:52pm

TMC121 wrote: »

So if your super is in a bad mood the rifle you have licensed for the past 10 years you suddenly don't have a good reason to own it
Or in a case I recently heard of the super wishes to reduce the amount of firearms in his district so he ok's the applicant for his fox rifle but will not issue the license for a .22 CZ for bunny shooting.

Who makes up these rules?
Do superintendents have the right to decide they no longer want firearms of a particular type or there are too many firearms in their district?

Considering the legislation states you can hold a firearm subject to good reason, that's not a limited number as some supers believe (3 was the maximum mentioned to me by another club member, so he was informed by the powers that be)

Where's the equality in this interpretation of the law?
Is each citizen not in title to a fair hearing without having the decision predetermined before hand?
This is getting worse.

if i get fxxxxd with il be on to the nargc in a flash .we my stand united

BornToKill · 29-10-2009 12:09am

jwshooter wrote: »

we my stand united

What? Are you a little fxxxxxd already jw by any chance?

iwsf · 29-10-2009 8:56am

to come back to the thread , got my licenses yesterday. Happy camper.
and i cannot care less about the quality of the card , surely it is still better that the piece of paper we used to get. So +1 for the garda as far as i am concerned.

LB6 · 29-10-2009 2:18pm

iwsf - did you get the amount of rounds on your licence that you requested on your applications forms? - Just curious...:)

iwsf · 29-10-2009 2:21pm

got more than what i asked for , i only asked for 100 .270 but got 200.
Same for the shotgun
i don't do target or clay shooting so i don't need a huge stock of ammo

Rovi · 30-10-2009 10:35am

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<MUCH SNIPPAGE>

Come on folks, at least try to keep it on topic.

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deerhunter1 · 30-10-2009 1:19pm

Rovi wrote: »

Got two in the post a few minutes ago, scans will follow shortly.

Got my 308,shotgun and 17 licences this morning sent off the money last friday, holiday weekend, applied for moderators for both rifles nothing to indicate yes or no. I take it that since I applied for a firearm with a moderator and licence was granted I have permission

Our man in Havana · 30-10-2009 2:16pm

I take it that since I applied for a firearm with a moderator and licence was granted I have permission.

Nope.

Unless you have a letter of authorisation from the Superintendent you don't have permission.

deerhunter1 · 30-10-2009 5:16pm

LB6 wrote: »

iwsf - did you get the amount of rounds on your licence that you requested on your applications forms? - Just curious...:)

No just gave me 200 for each of three weapons

jwshooter · 30-10-2009 6:00pm

deerhunter1 wrote: »

No just gave me 200 for each of three weapons

FIREARMS !. you were turned down on the mods then

deerhunter1 · 30-10-2009 6:24pm

jwshooter wrote: »

FIREARMS !. you were turned down on the mods then

l dont know for sure Ill check monday

DR6.5 · 30-10-2009 6:35pm

I got my firearm licences today, renewed two current firearms and applied for a new .308 Sako Finnlight, put in the applications the first week of October so cant complain about the guards now, i recieved the letters of receipt on wednesday and thought it would be december or january before id recieve the licences.

DR6.5

PJ Hunter · 31-10-2009 4:14pm

LB6 wrote: »

iwsf - did you get the amount of rounds on your licence that you requested on your applications forms? - Just curious...:)

one lad I know put in for 1000 and got 100 on his license. he's got 250
above the new limit, he had 500 on the old license.

jwshooter · 31-10-2009 4:44pm

does any one know if a permit for the mod is on the licence or not

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