LICENCES ARRIVED!!!

No6

Just got my new licence in the post, I'll collect the gun on Sunday!!!:D

Odysseus

Just got my grant letter for the .17 hrm so I'm well happy with that:) I only handed in the application on 16th Jan. The last two times I had to wait the full 12 weeks. It straight down to the post office with me now the get the ball rolling on the last hurdle, waiting on the actual licence to come. I wish the grant leter stated what ammo limit I'm being granted and the status on the mod request, but I just have to wait until it arrives to see.

shannonpowerlab

I got mine 2 weeks ago with a wrong serial number clearly their mistake...brought it in person with FCA2 form straight away...

Not a sound of it since....

Are they on strike...?

Cass

They have 14 days in which to substitute a license. I would imagine a similar time frame for amendments. If this is the case then it would be 14 working days. So allow 3 weeks at least. If its not the case then its a matter of waiting until they process it unfortunately.

Tikkat3

Tikkat3 wrote: »

I am now awaiting a call tomorrow night from the inspector whom I met in October who will hopefully explain what has happened. Interesting.:rolleyes:

Never did get that call back, so still waiting, long wait for two renewals especially after meeting the inspector and being told it was all in order way back at the start of October

Kryten

Tikkat3 wrote: »

Never did get that call back, so still waiting, long wait for two renewals especially after meeting the inspector and being told it was all in order way back at the start of October

You would'nt happen to be in the Mullingar district? The same happenned to me. I put the forms in in September. Only got the payment letters on Wednesday. Paid in the post office straight away. Got both licences Friday Afternoon. Just in time for the Hilltop shoot.

Tikkat3

Kryten wrote: »

You would'nt happen to be in the Mullingar district? The same happenned to me. I put the forms in in September. Only got the payment letters on Wednesday. Paid in the post office straight away. Got both licences Friday Afternoon. Just in time for the Hilltop shoot.

I'm in Clare, but glad to see that I am not the only one left waiting this long Hopefully I will hear something soon as it was quite worrying to hear the garda tell me that there was nothing input into the 'system' as of my phone call over a week ago.

Odysseus

Paid for the grant letter on Friday, just recieved the licence for the CZ .17hrm its got the S that I wanted and I asked for 200 round and that's wahat I was given. So all in all I happy with that result.

zulu_dawn

good news post.

the system worked for me, (thankfully).

i applied for permits on 7th december 2009 and got grant letters 4th february 2010, so including xmas, i figure a really good turn around.

i got the S on the permits and the round limits i requested.

thank you to An Garda Siochana.

Cass

Applied for my new rifle on the 5th Feb, receipt letter on the 10th, grant on the 16th, license in the post this morning.

Happy out.

mrbig

I got a phoncall on saturday from a Guard who was insisting that I produce my Countryside alliance membership card, I foolishly mentioned that i had insurance through them, when i asked him why he needed this he said it was a condition of my licence and the applicastion would be rejected without it, This made my blood boil i told him that i was not obliged to produce any card (or even have insurance)and wouldnt be doing so. I am sick of the gaurds making up this stuff as they go along,
I went to the trouble of getting the land permissions again and delivering them to my local station I am not going to pander to some whim by a gob****e who likes being a jobsworth. If my application is refused because of this I will be happy to apply through the court. Has anybody else had a similar bul**** request.:mad:

Cass

Just a quick question.

Why?

I understand you are annoyed and it can be unfair to demand items at a whim but why put yourself through all this hassle and grief when simply producing the card can solve all these problems before they start.

The hoops i and i'm sure others had and still have to jump through to get our licenses issued are many and some seemed silly or overly demanding but i/we all done it to get our licenses. Then have a moan, but first things first get your licenses.

Not meant to provoke you, just a question.

mrbig

ezridax wrote: »

Just a quick question.

Why?

Thats a fair comment, but I feel very strongly about this, The Guards are Law enforcement not legistlators, if producing a card was a requirement in Law I would do it and maybe grumble at the stuidity of it. I have held a licence for many years without incedent and dont have a big problem having to reapply, but I think this must be based on law and not the whim of any Guard.
Can you imagine if Driving licences were issued this way.
This experience afirms my belief that Guards are best suited to deal with criminals and that gun licencing like car licence should be dealt with by local council.
BTW I still havn't recieved my licence and am waiting for a reply to my phone call I made this morning.

It wasn't me!

Yeah, the Superintendent is entitled to attach conditions to your certificate as he sees fit. It's entirely legal for him to decide that your licence is contingent on you having insurance. In this case, you're entirely in the wrong and you might as well suck it up and show the card, rather than wasting a lot of time and money in the courts to be told "You're wrong, now suck it up and show the damn card".

bunny shooter

So if someone is shooting on their own land would you expect them to produce insurance to Gardai too? It is a silly shooter who wouldn't have relevant insurance BUT where in the legislation does it state I need it for a licence ?

What will the Gardai look for next ? That I have to be able to shoot 100/300 on DTL to get a shotgun licence or that I have to get 250/250 on a benchrest target to get a rifle :mad:

Some people here are so cowed down to authority that it's no wonder we have recently been shafted like we have :rolleyes:

They enforce/administer the law they don't make it ! Another shower of gob****es are doing that !!!!!!!!

Do you remember the "gun safe" case NARGC took and won !!!!!!!

I sucked and stood up to them up in my time and where did it get me ?

Shafted either way but at least by not sucking up you might have some personal pride left !!!!

I don't need insurance to get my salmon fishing permit !!!!!!

It wasn't me!

bunny shooter wrote: »

So if someone is shooting on their own land would you expect them to produce insurance to Gardai too? It is a silly shooter who wouldn't have relevant insurance BUT where in the legislation does it state I need it for a licence ?

What will the Gardai look for next ? That I have to be able to shoot 100/300 on DTL to get a shotgun licence or that I have to get 250/250 on a benchrest target to get a rifle :mad:

Some people here are so cowed down to authority that it's no wonder we have recently been shaftedlike we have :rolleyes:

They enforce/administer the law they don't make it ! Another shower of gob****es are doing that !!!!!!!!

Do you remember the "gun safe" case NARGC took and won !!!!!!!

Where in the legislation? Exactly where it says that the Superintendent is entitled to attach such conditions to the licence as he sees fit. It's not a section I like, but this isn't about being cowed by authority; it's about seeing the extent of the authority and where we stand in relation to it, and this guy has nowhere to stand. Indeed they don't make it, but the necessary law is right there already.

Sparks

bunny shooter wrote: »

where in the legislation does it state I need it for a licence ?

Firearms Act, Section 4(2)(g) :

(2)The conditions subject to which a firearm certificate may be granted are that, in the opinion of the issuing person, the applicant—
...
(g) complies with such other conditions (if any) specified in the firearm certificate, including any such conditions to be complied with before a specified date as the issuing person considers necessary in the interests of public safety or security

So the Superintendent can attach a wide range of conditions to your licence (and yes, in theory he could look for a proficiency standard but it's more likely to be upheld if challanged in court if it's a basic competency standard rather than a high-level competitive standard). He can't attach just anything as a condition though, it has to be reasonable.

Do you remember the "gun safe" case NARGC took and won !!!!!!!

Yes, because that case is why we're all in the muck right now.
I've lost count of how often I've said this Bunny, but you cannot use the judiciary as a stick to beat the executive with in this country. And those who think you can are in for a right land, and quite a few others with them. The NARGC took a lot of cases, one right to the supreme court - and the Minister just rewrote the law afterwards, making it legal to do what the supreme court said was not legal beforehand.

Shafted either way but at least by not sucking up you might have some personal pride left !!!!

You stick with personal pride. I'll stick with owning my own house instead of selling it off to pay a barrister for a few days of his time and about five minutes of the Minister's time (to decide to rewrite the law) afterwards, along with all the stress and tension and crapola that comes with it.

Honestly, every time I hear this line being trotted out (and I've been hearing it every year since I started shooting fifteen years ago), I'm in two minds. One mind completely understands the indignation and the anger and the urge to yell and shout and drag people to court. That mind is pissed off that I have to go into the garda station and fill out pages of forms to be allowed to own a piece of sports equipment that no other country in the world calls a firearm (let alone the W word) -- while literally two minutes away, on the very next luas stop, there's an alleyway where some thug is openly dealing narcotics in full public view of every commuter coming or going, every night I pass there, and there's not a garda in sight.

But the other mind, the mind that pays the morgage and holds down the job, wonders if the goal here is to enjoy my sport or enjoy fighting "de man". And if it's the former, every euro and every minute that goes towards yelling at someone had better be worth it, because it's a minute or a euro that didn't go towards my sport. And I don't have an infinite supply of either.

bunny shooter

IWM & Sparks I know what your saying and I know ye're right :eek:

BUT.................sod it lads .................. I don't like golf as much as I like shooting

I'm dreading my renewals next time so ...............................

Sparks

I know where you're coming from Bunny. And it's not just shooting - whenever I watch the news these days, half my head just screams obscenities at the box and the other half starts looking into emigration

bunny shooter

I know your pain. I did the emigration thing last time. Not going again

It wasn't me!

bunny shooter wrote: »

IWM & Sparks I know what your saying and I know ye're right :eek:

BUT.................sod it lads .................. I don't like golf as much as I like shooting

I'm dreading my renewals next time so ...............................

I get you bunny, I really do, and amn't looking to argue and be a dick for the funn of it. But unfortunately the law is clear. I don't like it either, for what it's worth. It's way too open to the abuses of small men in unfortunate positions of authority.

Sparks wrote: »

I know where you're coming from Bunny. And it's not just shooting - whenever I watch the news these days, half my head just screams obscenities at the box and the other half starts looking into emigration

bunny shooter wrote: »

I know your pain. I did the emigration thing last time. Not going again

The idea of upping sticks for greener pastures where you're not treated like a criminal just for liking shooting, where the food and wine run well and the weather's nice has crossed my mind the odd time. I do speak French too...

Kryten

I think the only place we would really fit in is the USA. No oppressive firearms laws. (depending on the state) Maybe we could get there as sports refugees :D. Being criminalised because of our chosen sport. Must be a special visa class for that.

Grizzly 45

Well, if you had the money.The land of ,Sig,cuckoo clocks,and good chocolate is a good choice too.Still I'm sure we can fit another 250K worth of gunowners into the USA.No doubt the firearms sales will dramatically rise again once ye all arrive.:D:D

mrbig

The Guards Confirmed that my licence has been aproved and I will recieve the document in the post next week, So looks like I didnt need to remortage my house to asert that I had supplied sufficient documents and they had no reason to deny me my licence, unlike "It wasn't me!" I dont believe we have to encourage unreasonable demands from the Guards.:D

It wasn't me!

mrbig wrote: »

The Guards Confirmed that my licence has been aproved and I will recieve the document in the post next week, So looks like I didnt need to remortage my house to asert that I had supplied sufficient documents and they had no reason to deny me my licence, unlike "It wasn't me!" I dont believe we have to encourage unreasonable demands from the Guards.:D

Thanks for misrepresenting me there; I love when people do that. I said they're entitled, by law, to make that demand. I then *very clearly* stated that I don't like that as it stands.

Tikkat3

Tikkat3 wrote: »

Never did get that call back, so still waiting, long wait for two renewals especially after meeting the inspector and being told it was all in order way back at the start of October

Still waiting for my two renewals unfortunately.............Think I will have to call the Garda that I spoke to the last time and see what the delay is as.

rowa

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Well, if you had the money.The land of ,Sig,cuckoo clocks,and good chocolate is a good choice too.Still I'm sure we can fit another 250K worth of gunowners into the USA.No doubt the firearms sales will dramatically rise again once ye all arrive.:D:D

even the bus inspectors in switzerland are armed with a pistol so i am told ! most of the guards here don't be armed , too afraid it'd "up the ante" :rolleyes: .

Grizzly 45

But then most of the pouplation in Switzerland is armed,do military service,keep a govt issued assault rifle at home with it's ammo.Nearly everyone who works in the banking sector has a military rank. District Bank managers are usually around Major :eek:in rank[AIB,BOI ,NAMA muppetts take note].They have ranges like we have GAA pitches,encourage their kids to shoot from 10 onwards.
Some schools have their own air rifle and pistol range.
Depending on what canton you live in owning full auto isnt too much of a problem.Also they have a hot pursuit law,not to mind shooting at intruders,you can persue them off your property to the boundary using deadly force:eek::eek::eek:.Armed robbery of the person or institution,is a mandatory,no questions asked 20 years non parole sentence,wether you used a bananna or a bazooka.
The country is clean,tidy,orderly,safe as houses at night,although it is pretty much closed up around 11oclock at night.Even the grafitti what there is of it,is quite tasteful and orderly.
Got alot going for it.But it is expensive to live there,booze isnt cheap
[8 euros a pint in Geneva:eek:] Very polite society and well armed as well.
.

mrbig

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Thanks for misrepresenting me there; I love when people do that. I said they're entitled, by law, to make that demand. I then *very clearly* stated that I don't like that as it stands.

Yes that was a bit unfair but my point still stands we should not just give in to the whims of the Guards and within reason demand that they stick to the actual rules and not add their own personal ones. Any way thanks for the advise which I did take note of and I agree if it the diference between licence and going to Court its probably better to swallow ones pride and just give in (but not to easily):)

Sparks

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

But then most of the pouplation in Switzerland is armed,do military service,keep a govt issued assault rifle at home with it's ammo.

Bit of an urban myth that Grizzly, it's only about 20-30% of the male population. And from the few I've met and from the time spent there, the whole "polite and well-armed" idea is purely an external observation - over there it doesn't really even come into it, it'd be like describing the Irish as being celtic and bipedal.

rowa

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

But then most of the pouplation in Switzerland is armed,do military service,keep a govt issued assault rifle at home with it's ammo.Nearly everyone who works in the banking sector has a military rank. District Bank managers are usually around Major :eek:in rank[AIB,BOI ,NAMA muppetts take note].They have ranges like we have GAA pitches,encourage their kids to shoot from 10 onwards.
Some schools have their own air rifle and pistol range.
Depending on what canton you live in owning full auto isnt too much of a problem.Also they have a hot pursuit law,not to mind shooting at intruders,you can persue them off your property to the boundary using deadly force:eek::eek::eek:.Armed robbery of the person or institution,is a mandatory,no questions asked 20 years non parole sentence,wether you used a bananna or a bazooka.
The country is clean,tidy,orderly,safe as houses at night,although it is pretty much closed up around 11oclock at night.Even the grafitti what there is of it,is quite tasteful and orderly.
Got alot going for it.But it is expensive to live there,booze isnt cheap
[8 euros a pint in Geneva:eek:] Very polite society and well armed as well.
.

get some of their versions of t.d's over here for a while do you think ? a sort of exchange programme, maybe send over o'dea and ahern :rolleyes:.

i did see a magazine article on a park in geneva where all the junkies congregated , it was pretty shocking even by dublin skanger standards , so its not all wonderful.

Sparks

rowa wrote: »

i did see a magazine article on a park in geneva where all the junkies congregated , it was pretty shocking even by dublin skanger standards , so its not all wonderful.

Wasn't that the park where the government distributed free clean needles and didn't arrest addicts for drug abuse in an effort to stop the spread of disease that was happening at the time from sharing needles and overdosing? Granted, it didn't work, but it was a decent bit of lateral thinking.

rrpc

mrbig wrote: »

I got a phoncall on saturday from a Guard who was insisting that I produce my Countryside alliance membership card, I foolishly mentioned that i had insurance through them, when i asked him why he needed this he said it was a condition of my licence and the applicastion would be rejected without it

Not to beat this point to death, but you must have felt that having the insurance was important enough to mention it to the Gardai in support of your application, so it's hardly surprising that they would then also consider it important enough to ask for it.

In addition to a Superintendent being able to attach conditions to a licence, they also have to consider whether you would be: "permitted to possess, use and carry the firearm and ammunition without danger to the public safety or security or the peace".

Having insurance could be considered a factor in that decision.

And yes, it is annoying, but all the advice here is aimed at saving you money, not at having a go at you.

mrbig

In answer to rrpc this was not the case.
I had atached a copy of my insurance. It was the fact that they also wanted a Countryside alliance membership card that I found unreasonable. In short after I went back to the Garda Station for the second time as they requested new Land permissions which I submitted along with my insurance they conacted me again and demanded that I return a third time to the station between 10 and 1 pm
and present my Membership card. This is what I found unreasonable yes I want a gun Licence but what right have the guards to keep adding conditions after I present the complete documentation that originaly requested. My application was not unusual in any way appart from the fact that it was for two guns.
BTW the application has been granted so I don't think this was ever a stipulation of the Supertendent but more of a Guard on a power trip.

pedroeibar1

Sparks wrote: »

Wasn't that the park where the government distributed free clean needles and didn't arrest addicts for drug abuse in an effort to stop the spread of disease that was happening at the time from sharing needles and overdosing? Granted, it didn't work, but it was a decent bit of lateral thinking.

Off topic, but........It was in Zurich and known locally as "Needle Park." The junkies/prostitutes took it over, much to the disgust of the local citizenry. Then the city sort of relented when it realised that it was best to keep the skangers coralled in the park. When it reached the stage that the police went in every morning to collect the dead/ODs, etc., the socialworkers launched the needle exchange programme. Park was a no-go area, heard it is now back to normal but I haven't been there for years.

+1 on Sparks 20-30% for firearms at home, but all males at 19 have compulsory mil service. of a few months followed until age 40ish by manouvers every year, paid for by employer. Personal weapon is held at home. Emphasis on guerilla warfare, bombing passes, disruption of tunnels, etc. There was a referendum on abolishing the army (popular idea) but then 911 happened so it got nailed. The guy I used to do business with there was in the Navy reserve, always came over here with his sailing gear on the chance I could get him a berth. Their Navy is mainly FPBs on the lakes and he did some time on a merchantman in teh Med.
P.

Grizzly 45

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QUOTE=pedroeibar1;64662964]Off topic, but........It was in Zurich and known locally as "Needle Park." The junkies/prostitutes took it over, much to the disgust of the local citizenry. Then the city sort of relented when it realised that it was best to keep the skangers coralled in the park. When it reached the stage that the police went in every morning to collect the dead/ODs, etc., the socialworkers launched the needle exchange programme. Park was a no-go area, heard it is now back to normal but I haven't been there for years.

Pretty much as you describe.Still got the junkies though,but what town in the civilised world doesnt have Heroin addicts nowadays?

compulsory mil service. of a few months followed until age 40ish by manouvers every year, paid for by employer. Personal weapon is held at home. Emphasis on guerilla warfare, bombing passes, disruption of tunnels, etc. There was a referendum on abolishing the army (popular idea) but then 911 happened so it got nailed. The guy I used to do business with there was in the Navy reserve, always came over here with his sailing gear on the chance I could get him a berth. Their Navy is mainly FPBs on the lakes and he did some time on a merchantman in teh Med.
P.

To think that a landlocked country like Switzerland has a navy,not to mind a Merchant navy is one thats hard to swallow.Until you actually see one of their merchantmen.An ocean going vessel not much bigger in length than an average Rhine barge,and able to navigate Europes canals,or head out to sea around Europe.Does show inititave and lateral thinking.

Thought it was 65 for the mil service??Still and all it isnt a bad idea.Do your 12 weeks basic,come out once a year for the active service,and go home.Good troop rota,and doesnt require a massive standing army.

Still and all 20to 25% of the male pouplation having arms,thats a damn good percentage.What other country in Europe could come close to that??

Tikkat3

Finally after over 6 months of waiting, my grant notice letters arrived today for my two unrestricted renewals. This was after many phone calls to the Garda who took my applications and finally when nothing was happening I called the previous F.O. who has since moved station but is a friend of mine and within the week, I recieved my letters.

chem

Tikkat3 wrote: »

Finally after over 6 months of waiting, my grant notice letters arrived today for my two unrestricted renewals. This was after many phone calls to the Garda who took my applications and finally when nothing was happening I called the previous F.O. who has since moved station but is a friend of mine and within the week, I recieved my letters.

Ah good old Ireland. Its not what you know, but who you know :D

Happy shooting

Tikkat3

chem wrote: »

Ah good old Ireland. Its not what you know, but who you know :D

Happy shooting

Thanks Chem,

For over 6 months I phone called on several occassions and was promissed call back after call back, none came. Very frustrating when everything had been approved by the inspector at the start during an interview where I explained my requirements, moderator included.

Finally, rang previous F.O. to ask for advice on how to move things forward as I was getting no where and was very conscious of having unlicensed firearms in my home.

He suggested I wait a day or so and follow up with a call to the new F.O. During said call, I asked for a letter of comfort or cover letter stating that they had recieved my renewal applications and that I was covered to legally own said firearms. I was told this was not neccessary :rolleyes: and 3 days later my grant letters arrived.

Just glad to have them now to be honest and hopefully this wont be the same process every 3 years!

chem

Tikkat3 wrote: »

Thanks Chem,

For over 6 months I phone called on several occassions and was promissed call back after call back, none came. Very frustrating when everything had been approved by the inspector at the start during an interview where I explained my requirements, moderator included.

Finally, rang previous F.O. to ask for advice on how to move things forward as I was getting no where and was very conscious of having unlicensed firearms in my home.

He suggested I wait a day or so and follow up with a call to the new F.O. During said call, I asked for a letter of comfort or cover letter stating that they had recieved my renewal applications and that I was covered to legally own said firearms. I was told this was not neccessary :rolleyes: and 3 days later my grant letters arrived.

Just glad to have them now to be honest and hopefully this wont be the same process every 3 years!

Been on that twisty road myself Tikkat :rolleyes: I could write a book at this stage, but i would have to put it in the fiction section, because noone would believe it!

eireshot

i was told on Thursday that their still only processing November's applications, anyone else told this?.

Grizzly 45

I'm not surprised.:rolleyes: If it is anything to go by our lot.
Sent them in a copy of one gun being in storage[Remington1100 shotgun],signed by dealer and a note to say it has been converted to unrestricted both photocopied and sent. Sent back from the supers office,could they have the original letter of conversion?Sent that,wait two weeks,note back they want the original letter of conversion,sent that.Wait three weeks,could they then have the original of the letter of storage ,and the letter of conversion is no good,they wanted this on original letterhead as well,and the original as well.Duely sent...Wonder whats next??proably could they have it As Gailige no doubt.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

FIVE WEEKS of toing and froing which could have been simply done by ONE letter saying they require the originals.Feck that! Even a phone call would do.......:mad: ....Even my local FAO is getting peed off with their attitude.He is still working on Octs batch,because of this pettiness and carry on.Multiply my case by 50 plus people around God knows how many districts in Ireland,and then we wonder why there are no Gardai around on the beat???

Tikkat3

Just an update

Recieved my grant letters last Friday, paid at post office today.

Came home from work today and had a letter from AGS to tell me that my applications had been recieved and will be processed in the normal 3 month time frame..................over 6 months after I sent my renewals in :rolleyes:

And apparently, I now possess weapons, not firearms.

quote: 'This application is in reference to the following weapon' priceless!!:rolleyes:

marlin vs

Iv'e got all my licences awhile now, and yet this morning I recieved two letters saying that two of my licences are being evaluated. Look's like the're going around in circles.

Dvs

marlin vs wrote: »

Iv'e got all my licences awhile now, and yet this morning I recieved two letters saying that two of my licences are being evaluated. Look's like the're going around in circles.

Hello Marlin vs
Can you post a scan or the exact wording of the letters with personal details removed.

Dvs.

riflehunter77

marlin vs wrote: »

Iv'e got all my licences awhile now, and yet this morning I recieved two letters saying that two of my licences are being evaluated. Look's like the're going around in circles.

We seem to be on a magic roundabout in this country at moment the only problem is nobody no`s were the exit is.

Tikkat3

marlin vs wrote: »

Iv'e got all my licences awhile now, and yet this morning I recieved two letters saying that two of my licences are being evaluated. Look's like the're going around in circles.

Sounds like the same letters I recieved :rolleyes:

Dvs, the wording is:

Dear XX,

Your application for a firearm license has been recieved at XX Garda Station, Tel: XXXX.

Your application number is XXXX. Please quote this number in any correspondence.

Your application will be evaluated in accordance with current firearms legislation which provides for a maximum time of 3 months for this evaluation. A decision will normally be communicated before XXXX

This application is in reference to the following weapon:

Firearm type: X
Maker: X
Serial no: X

Your sincerely,

Superintendent

dCorbus

Lads and Ladies, have no fear - I bring you good and joyous news!:D:rolleyes:

The letter you've all recieved is in fact the acknowledgement letter for your FAC application! Go figure!:rolleyes:

As you've already recieved your grant letters and have your licences (from what I understand from the earlier posts), this seems to be some art of admin cock-up.

To be on the safe side, I checked the wording you've given above against my own letters (2) of acknowledgement, and the wording is exactly the same.

So no need to worry or fret!:)

(That is: Unless the PTB are now reviewing and evaluating our applications retrospectively after the granting of the licence - Now that's a horrible scary thought:eek: - But IMHO not the case here.:))

Dvs

Given that marlin vs has not posted the text of their letter received yesterday,
and Tikkat3 does not clearly state if the letters to which they refer,
were received yesterday as in the marlin vs post,
after having licence grant letter and license issued already,
or in the normal chain of events after submitting an application,
perhaps we should wait until they clarify this before,
bringing the good and joyous news!

The horrible scary thought would be my concern.

Dvs.

dCorbus

True - Let's wait and see what the text of marlinvs' letter was.

Dvs, the wording is:

Dear XX,

Your application for a firearm license has been recieved at XX Garda Station, Tel: XXXX.

Your application number is XXXX. Please quote this number in any correspondence.

Your application will be evaluated in accordance with current firearms legislation which provides for a maximum time of 3 months for this evaluation. A decision will normally be communicated before XXXX

This application is in reference to the following weapon:

Firearm type: X
Maker: X
Serial no: X

Your sincerely,

Superintendent

That's the text of tikkat3's letter as posted earlier - But you're right, he doesn't say whether this is the exact text of the letter to which marlinvs was refering.

Perhaps when marlinvs can post the text of his letter and tikkat3 can confirm when his letter was recieved, we'll be able to give a more definitive opinion.

But just to point you back to my earlier post and ask you to read it again:

As you've already recieved your grant letters and have your licences (from what I understand from the earlier posts), this seems to be some art of admin cock-up.

and

Now that's a horrible scary thought - But IMHO not the case here

(My new italics above to highlight that it seems to be a cock-up and it's only in my humble opinion)

The horrible scary thought would be my concern

That would indeed be a horrible and scary thought and we would all need to be extremely concerned if that proves to be the case - but based on the scant information we have to hand, I'm going to stick to my opinion - until we hear some more information.

This would be the first mention of any such action (i.e. retrospective license reviews) taking place - and I don't think we should be getting too worried just yet. If it proves to be true - then by all means, unleash hell, but until then, let's keep nice and calm and not be unduly worried.:)

Oh and by the way, you see the two funny little shapes at the end of this sentence:

Lads and Ladies, have no fear - I bring you good and joyous news!

One indicates a big grin (signifying a humorous, if somewhat facetious, remark) combined with the other funny little face which indicates a level of sarcasm was being used in my response. Look here it is again.....:D;)