I frickin hate ultra moves

Azza

Just you wait till they put in a paint the fence combo and restore CE Crusher in SSF IV!

Dreddybajs

bison already has touch of death in SF4, here's the input:

st. RH

Azza

His st.rh needs a few buffs though, I'm thinking half number of start up frames, 40% more range, 50% more damage, +17 on block and builds 1 full bar of super meter. It also should juggle into ultra.

Retr0gamer

Red350 wrote: »

Don't forget c.mk xx super taunt xx ultra for dan

Obviously not a true dan player. You need to throw in a gadouken after the c.mk

animaX

Placebo wrote: »

watch the videos from Rathfarnam rampage and watch the amount of whiffed/missed ultras

I think that might have been the alcohol

K.O.Kiki

Abel's Ultra is awesome -- goes through most fireballs on reaction, easy setup from cr.HP (can also COD->FADC->cr.HP).

Yet he's nowhere near top tier.

*sigh*

Hank Scorpio

i dislike how i usually do a super instead of a ultra with ryu , bugs me abit

Retr0gamer

I rarely get a full super bar when playing as ryu. The Ex fireballs are excellent and a combo ending in ex tatsu does so much damage that wasting meter on a super is pointless usually. If you've no super meter it's easier to pull off an ultra I find.

K.O.Kiki

OTOH, Ryu's Super is one of the best moves in the game.

1+2 startup.
Prevents neutral jump over FBs.
Can combo from hit FB at >66% fullscreen.
Can be comboed from LK or any air Tatsu.
Does 73 block damage AFAIK.
+11 on block.

In fact, since LK Tatsu is 11 frame startup, you could do FB ->Super -> LK Tatsu (just about) for 115 block damage.
You'd be at -6 after LK Tatsu, but it is good chip.

Cunny-Funt

Placebo wrote: »

watch the videos from Rathfarnam rampage and watch the amount of whiffed/missed ultras, its strict timing for alot of it.
I was making a point that theyre not as easy as supers, its hardly a MK into ultra now....

Dreddybajs wrote: »

Rufus: cr.LP, EX Messiah, FADC Ultra.
Ryu: cr. jab. cr. jab, DP, FADC, Ultra
Sagat: cr. short, cr. short, cr. short, DP, FADC, Ultra
Balrog: Cr. jab/short, headbutt, ultra

edit: nice edit Placebo :pac: (for those wondering it used to say LK instead of MK in his post hence that reply)

He's right though dreddy they generally aint as easy as supers, as supers can be super cancelled where as what your talking about there is linking and FADCing. Not saying they're hard though. That depends on the character and of course the 4 you mention there have a easy time with the ultra.

Yeah I love ryus super but I rarely have it as his ex moves are great, if your doing some heavy zoning you'll end up with a super which makes you even more dangerous when zoning if you're sitting on a super.

I waste a lot of ex fireballs I must admit. Still an old 3s habit, they came out so much faster in 3s but in SF4 I end up using them far more often then I should. I'm working on getting smarter with my super bar, you don't **** with ryu when he has a super.

Dreddybajs

I know, that's why I listed very easy ones in the first post - doesn't matter really anyway. I do think some of the easiest ultra setups in SF4 are harder than landing some of the standard 3S super hitconfirms though.

edit: typed wrong word durr

meducation

Dreddybajs wrote: »

bison already has touch of death in SF4, here's the input:

st. RH

haha:D
i've been messing with bison lately his pokes are mental

Placebo

Dreddybajs wrote: »

I know, that's why I listed very easy ones in the first post - doesn't matter really anyway. I do think some of the easiest ultra setups in SF4 are harder than landing some of the standard 3S super hitconfirms though.

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Dreddybajs

Sorry meant to type easier there not harder.

Cunny-Funt

Yeah i thought so , I was like hmmm wha huh heh wuuuuuh? awwww