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Mrs Lynch · 13-02-2010 3:21pm

Are the results for last nite posted anywhere

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pauls01 · 13-02-2010 5:02pm

Mrs Lynch wrote: »

Are the results for last nite posted anywhere

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Hi, I was down at the event last night, so taking these from memory. Would wait until someone official confirms them.

Darren Hughes v Alan Hannon - Darren Hughes (Decision) (Fairly close, back and forward fight, but was pretty poor as a main event - Merv's fight as ME would have been better imo)

Mark Gibson v Mervyn Muholland - Mervyn (Armbar) (That boy is goin places! Hope Mark is thoroughly ashamed of his supporters reactions, they were disgusting)

Richard Gorey v Michael Reid - Mike Reid (Referee stoppage) (Impressive from Mike)

Andy Young v Yanick McGee - Yanick McGee (Guillotine) (Looked like Andy had him at one point - executed a great takedown and fell into the guillotine - good fight)

Decky McCormick v Joe Baker - Decky McCormick (Can't remember method)

Dave Sloan v Karl Bruins - Dave Sloan (Decision) (Karl was ****in terrible! So disappointing)

Adam Kemp v Bogusz Pochylski - Bogusz (Looked to me like the guy just tapped out due to bein ****in wrecked lol)

Andy Green v Anthony McGrath - Andy Green (Can't remember method)

Ryan Martin v Joe Frey - Joe Frey (Decision) (Some great Judo throws from Joe, but apart from that, was a fairly poor fight)

Karthik Nargaraj v Louis Gribben - (Unknown) (Not actually sure on this one. Decision was given to Louis Gribben then later reversed I think?? Someone else might be able to confirm!)

Ciaran McFadden v George Clarke - George Clark (Decision) (Some good knees from George)

Sam Burke v Josh Chesney - Sam Burke (Decision)

Pauric Henry v Jon Morrison - NC (Accidental groin strike) (Joke decision imo - looked for everyone to see he took a blow to stomach and couldn't get back up and played it up as a groin strike. Would like to see the replay of this one)

mark.leonard · 13-02-2010 5:26pm

Great show last night, thanks again to Paul for having us up.

Hard luck to the Cannon, great main event, two top class light weights leaving it all in the ring, almost wanted another draw so I could see it again.

Hardest jaw of the night has to go to Adam Kemp, Bogusz landed at my last count 15,000 punches to the head and he still survived to the second round, Bogusz certainly sent a message to the guys in his weight class, watch him for big things.

Andy Young vs Yannick McGee was awesome, goal mouth to goal mouth action.

pauls01 wrote:

Karthik Nargaraj v Louis Gribben - (Unknown) (Not actually sure on this one. Decision was given to Louis Gribben then later reversed I think?? Someone else might be able to confirm!)

Karthic won the decision and the announcer called the wrong name, they later brought him back to the cage and announced the correct decision. One of many mistakes the announcer made on the night, my favourite mistake was when he called one semi-pro fight as 5 two minute rounds of boxing action.

Pauls01 you are being a bit harsh to the fighters in your run down of the action - it takes balls to get in the cage, give them a bit more respect for getting in there.

pauls01 · 13-02-2010 5:37pm

Hi Mark, cheers for clarifying on the Karthic fight. I assumed he was back in the cage for decision reversal, but really wasn't sure what had gone on. Think it's probably unfair to blame the announcer as surely the referee would have passed the result onto him??

Who do you think I'm being harsh to? I didn't mean to come across as harsh towards anyone by the way, and have total respect for anyone who gets into that cage. I've had a few semi-pro fights myself and I know it's not easy. Complete respect to all the fighters and teams involved. No offence was intended, was just the way I saw the fights

Anakin.S · 13-02-2010 8:31pm

The announcer had a nightmare, getting names wrong and not calling the length of rounds right, I think he called 3 x 15 minute rounds at one stage.

He has a great announcing voice, I just think he is stuck in his boxing world (Nothing wrong with that)

I have to compliment the stewards, they dealt with the glass being thrown quickly and were able to defuse a prospectively major situation. But I think the bar should of been giving out plastic cups instead of glass?

The production on last nights show was fantastic, really professional

Kent Brockman · 13-02-2010 8:58pm

pauls01 wrote: »

Who do you think I'm being harsh to?

Ehm.....
1) the guys in the main event
2)the guy you said was effin terrible/disappointing
3) the guy you claim tapped because he was tired
4) the guy who you claim faked being hit in the groin

Other than that:rolleyes:

IFS.NI · 13-02-2010 9:11pm

Anakin.S wrote: »

The announcer had a nightmare, getting names wrong and not calling the length of rounds right, I think he called 3 x 15 minute rounds at one stage.

He has a great announcing voice, I just think he is stuck in his boxing world (Nothing wrong with that)

I have to compliment the stewards, they dealt with the glass being thrown quickly and were able to defuse a prospectively major situation. But I think the bar should of been giving out plastic cups instead of glass?

The production on last nights show was fantastic, really professional

Hi Anakin.S,

Thanks for the kind words on the show, we are working really hard to do this right and promote a professional event for the fighters.

Harry is a fantastic announcer but yes his long career as a boxing MC is hard to shift

The stewards and doormen done very well with the scurmish last night. They controlled the situation well in an tight position and escorted the small number in 5-10 mins to the exit. The crowd last night were fantastic and fans will see that serious MMA events will not tolerate anyone trying to ruin the progression of the sport.

Martin Walker · 13-02-2010 9:13pm

The show last night had many good points and many bad points.

The Venue was excellent. Newly refurbished and ultra modern.
Production was tip top. The cage from Strabane is the best around at the minute and with the venues light system and sound system paired with the video cameras putting action up on the big screen everything looked the part. Ive been vocal in the past about my dislike for the ISKA and i still dont think Paul and the Clan Wars team need them however if this is the level of prodution they can provide i must say im pleasantly suprised.
The security was spot on too. When the glass throwing incident happened they were quick to diffuse the situation. People have been quick to blame Mark Gibson because they were his "fans" that were involved but i was at that side of the cage and clearly seen Merv Mulholland gesturing to the "fans" that were booing him. I know this is no excuse for what followed after but has to be taken into consideration before blame is thrown about.
The reffing as usual with Aiden Marron and Decky Larkin was spot on.

The MC was rubbish. No other way around it. Rambled on for an age and held things up. The guy should stick to what he knows best which is obviously MC`ing at Boxing events.
The Standard of many of the fights was Poor. 5 D-Class fights of which 4 went the distance. The finishing on display was terrible. I think out of the whole card 4-5 fights were finished within the time. For me the only fights worth remembering were the Hughes/Hannon and Ried/Gorey bouts.
Again ive mentioned before that i belive some of the newer clubs are putting lads into fights when they are just not ready. Last night was an example of this. I dont mean to run these guys down but this show was supposedly recorded for T.V and i dont think it will help the image of Irish MMA if people think this is the standard we are at.

Overall i think the show was ok. Very Long. I do get the feeling though that the Clan Wars team are pushing themselves too far too soon. The MC was announcing the show as Irelands Premier MMA show. Im sorry but it is clearly not. The show will improve this year and in my opinion will become a solid event on the Irish MMA calander.

Marty:cool:

IFS.NI · 13-02-2010 9:13pm

mark.leonard wrote: »

Great show last night, thanks again to Paul for having us up.

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Was a pleasure working with you Mark, your experience and professionalism was an asset to the show.

I hope you enjoed yourself and the commentary experience

IFS.NI · 13-02-2010 9:57pm

Martin Walker wrote: »

The show last night had many good points and many bad points.

Marty:cool:

We use the ISKA because it works for us and has solid rules in place to promote MMA, this works for what we are trying to achieve.

I have mentioned earlier about Harry, he is a solid MC only i think he was getting caught up with his experience in the boxing world. We do not claim to be Irelands Premier MMA event or anything near it, the announcing was gemmed up by Harry himself I suppose for added effect. We only provided the names,records and clubs etc

As for D class fights - we started the Clan Wars show Jan 2009 giving beginners the chance to progress and we will continue to do so, we support MMA from a grass roots level. I know the MMA league is there which is a great format too although theres no reason why it cant be done in the cage also, its pretty standard around the UK. I guess its a decession for each promoter to decide if they want to do it or not.

The feedback from the shows has been amazing and the interest from clubs to compete on Clan Wars is fantastic from all round europe, we think its working well from amateur through to Pro's.

Again the only fights going on television are the Pro fights, the undercard is being hosted on P4TV.com. The pros last night are all very capable fighters and would be seen on any of the bills on other similar promotions.

Guess to sum it up, we started to promote fighters from all levels and will continue to do so. Those who like what we are doing will get onboard with the show and those who dont wont.......theres no harm done, everyone has their own opinions on things but its down to the promotion what they want to do.

pauls01 · 13-02-2010 9:59pm

Kent Brockman wrote: »

Ehm.....
1) the guys in the main event
2)the guy you said was effin terrible/disappointing
3) the guy you claim tapped because he was tired
4) the guy who you claim faked being hit in the groin

Other than that:rolleyes:

Not sure what your issue is here. There are disappointing fights on every card and every show. Doesn't mean any disrespect to the fighters or takes anything away from their efforts. People go to these shows to be entertained and this was just my opinion. I have no affiliation with any of the clubs involved and was there last night as an "arm chair" fan, just to see some good action.

I said the main event was a good close fight and some great standup from both guys, but wasn't the "spectacle" that I was expecting from the main event of the evening.

Karl Bruins was terrible! No two ways about it. In both rounds, he got taken down, and was held there with Dave Sloan battering his legs. Only defense he tried to mount were upkicks, and when they didn't work, what did he do? Some more upkicks.

I didn't see a sub in the fight between Adam Kemp and Bogusz. He was getting battered the whole of the first round, then in the second round, he got hit with a hard takedown, then tapped. I really thought it was because he couldn't go on anymore, perhaps I was wrong.

Also, I'm almost positive that Pauric Henry wasn't struck on the groin. Want to see what the TV shows, but as far as I could see, he wasn't enjoying the leg strikes he was taking, then took a very hard knee into the abdomen which downed him, and he couldn't get back up. I didn't say he was faking being injured, but it certainly didn't look like he was hit in the groin.

Also agree with some of Martin's criticisms above. The show was too long. Me and my friends arrived around half 7 and weren't leaving until half past 12, and as stated, people started to get bored and leave before the main event. This should never be the case at a show.

There should have been 8-10 fights on the card last night, and if Clan Wars really wants to move forward as a serious contender on the Irish MMA scene, they should probably drop D class fights altogether.

And agree with the stewards being on the ball when it came to sorting out the scuffle after Mark Gibson's fight. Martin, I wasn't actually looking at Mervyn. I noticed the guys in the corner being overly rowdy a bit before, and saw them react very angrily when Mervyn won and did his backflip, then the girl threw the glass. I can't comment on wait Mervyn may have done to entice them. Even then, it's no excuse for how they all reacted in my opinion. Just glad it was sorted with little fuss.

On a side note, did anyone else notice in Mervyn's fight that Aidan couldn't see Mark tapping, but Mervyn started celebrating (knocking off Aidan's cam in the process) and Aidan kind of just went along with the decision. The end to it was all a bit odd.

All this said, the production values were excellent and the show was very professionally run - looking forward to seeing how it turns out on the TV.

Martin Walker · 13-02-2010 10:05pm

IFS.NI wrote: »

everyone has their own opinions on things but its down to the promotion what they want to do.

I couldnt agree with you more Paul. I never try to tell promotions how to function. At the end of the day when i judge or ref on a show the promoter is my boss. I just give my opinion as i see things. I understand your partnership with ISKA as we have had quite a few discussions on the subject. If you think its the right thing for you to do crack on dude. Dont miss that i said there were both GOOD and BAD points. Like all shows. My own included.

Marty

IFS.NI · 13-02-2010 10:17pm

pauls01 wrote: »

There should have been 8-10 fights on the card last night, and if Clan Wars really wants to move forward as a serious contender on the Irish MMA scene, they should probably drop D class fights altogether.

All this said, the production values were excellent and the show was very professionally run - looking forward to seeing how it turns out on the TV.

The show got held up with fighters stuck in traffic and also the last minute managing that needed to be done when the doctor that was supposed to do the event got called to a trauma accident and couldnt make the show, as you can imagine at 5pm this was pannick stations!! Luckily Wacky agreed last minute to do doctor coverage, all these things add time to the events.

The number of fights is a tricky one, I feel 12 fights is about right but any of the shows will tell you that with the number of injuries before the event your card can quickly diminish so its better to have too many as too few. I personally feel people will think 8 fights is too few.

We appreciate what peoples views on the amateur do or not debates but we support amateurs, I mentioned earlier about were and how we started, we are doing this for the fighters from beginners to the more expereinced, we wont turn our backs on where we started. There is a very healthy amateur circuit in the UK at many of the big shows.

Cheers

pauls01 · 13-02-2010 10:43pm

IFS.NI wrote: »

The show got held up with fighters stuck in traffic and also the last minute managing that needed to be done when the doctor that was supposed to do the event got called to a trauma accident and couldnt make the show, as you can imagine at 5pm this was pannick stations!! Luckily Wacky agreed last minute to do doctor coverage, all these things add time to the events.

The number of fights is a tricky one, I feel 12 fights is about right but any of the shows will tell you that with the number of injuries before the event your card can quickly diminish so its better to have too many as too few. I personally feel people will think 8 fights is too few.

We appreciate what peoples views on the amateur do or not debates but we support amateurs, I mentioned earlier about were and how we started, we are doing this for the fighters from beginners to the more expereinced, we wont turn our backs on where we started. There is a very healthy amateur circuit in the UK at many of the big shows.

Cheers

Hi IFS, I completely understand about the number of fights. I was involved in promoting a few shows in England a lot of years back, and I know you can start off with 12 fights and end up with five. It's very tough to get the balance just so, and I understand the amount of work that has to go into everything. It was just an observation that last nights show was too long, but I appreciate it was out of your control, as all you can do is try to plan ahead as best you can. Though, I think if you are having D Class fights on the card, you have to almost expect them to go to the distance, and factor this in.

I completely support your stance on promoting grass roots MMA and giving the younger pups a chance, and it's all with great intentions, but for bums on seats and entertainment value, people go to see banging and knockouts, and in my experience, quickly get bored of D class fights. It may be worth limiting D class to 2 (maybe 3) fights per card, or maybe have some sort of "prelims" section? I don't know mate, I would never do promotion again, I'm just throwing out some ideas. No disrespect meant to you or anyone else in this thread!

IFS.NI · 13-02-2010 10:56pm

pauls01 wrote: »

I completely support your stance on promoting grass roots MMA and giving the younger pups a chance, and it's all with great intentions, but for bums on seats and entertainment value, people go to see banging and knockouts, and in my experience!

Yea i hear what your saying on knockouts, we all love them lol

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IFS.NI · 14-02-2010 5:30pm

Results, complimentary from the time keeper Tim Mc Crory.

FIGHT 1
PAURIC HENRY (OAKLEAF JJ) V JON MORRISON (IFS.NI)
NO CONTEST
ILLEGAL GROIN STRIKE BY MORRISON 24 SECS ROUND 2

FIGHT 2
SAM BURKE (SALFORD FF) V JOSH CHESNEY (ELITE MA)
SAM BURKE WINNER, UNANIMOUS DECISION

FIGHT 3
CIARAN MC FADDEN (OAKLEAF JJ) V GEORGE CLARKE (IFS.NI)
GEORGE CLARKE WINNER UNANIMOUS DECISION

FIGHT 4
KARTHIK NARGARAJ (SALFORD FF) V LOIS MCGRIBBEN (ELITE MA)
WINNER NARHIK NARGARAJ SPLIT DECISION

FIGHT 5
RYAN MARTIN (IMMA) V JOE FREY (IFS.NI)
WINNER JOE FREY UNANIMOUS DECISION

FIGHT 6
ANDY GREEN (SALFORD FF) V ANTHONY MCGRATH (PHK)
WINNER ANDY GREEN 1.05 R1 ARMBAR

FIGHT 7
ADAM KEMP (FRAMES TIA JUTSU) V BOGUSZ POCHYLSKI (HURASIA FIGHT TEAM)
WINNER POCHYLSKI KEY LOCK 49 SECS R2

FIGHT 8
DAVE SLOAN (SALFORD FF) V CARL BRUINS (ELITE MA)
DAVE SLOAN WINNER UNANIMOUS DECISION

FIGHT 9
DECKY MCCORMACK (IMMA) V JOE BAKER (KYOUJIN MMA)
WINNER MCCORMACK 2,13 R1 TRIANGLE CHOKE

FIGHT 10
ANDY YOUNG (FRAMES TIA JUTSU) V YANNICK MCGEE (ELITE MA)
WINNER MCGEE GUILLITINE CHOKE R1 3.49

FIGHT 11
RICHARD GOREY (KILKENNY TOP PRO) V MIKE REID (GRACIE BARRA)
WINNER REID GROUND AND POUND 1.45 R2

FIGHT 12
MERV MUHOLLAND (JUKU RYU JJ) V MARK GIBSON (ELITE 400)
WINNER MUHOLLAND ARMBAR R1 1,00

FIGHT 13
DARREN HUGHES (SUDDEN IMPACT) V ALAN HANNON (COMBAT SPORTS CENTRE)
WINNER HUGHES UNANIMOUS DECISION