F1 2010.

Frank Bullitt

So,the season is nearly over and with the titles sorted,I think we can look to next year.

The only big rule change is the no re-fueling, and with McLaren and Ferrari focusing there attention on next years cars i expect them to be back at the front of the grid,also red bull will be strong IMO and Brawn will still be there.

Next year could be very exciting,but i think the ban on re-fueling will hurt the racing a lot,so maybe a bit of a snore fest at times,saying that though im going with Alonso to be back at his best with Ferrari and either Hamilton or(if he goes back to the team)Raikkonen battling with him.

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3261_5641650,00.html

I think that article sums up Buttons chances for next year,he has claimed he is not a "one hit wonder",but i think he is.

thebman

Well hopefully they will have to overtake on the track since they can't depend on fuelling but then you have tyre stops which might just end up continuing what we see now so no change is potential.

I think if we had KERS still with a few teams we'd see more overtaking but maybe everyone would just use it in same parts of track making it a bit redundant.

I think the field will probably separate a bit with teams with bigger budgets moving ahead slightly because of the budgets as when you have a lot of changes, it suits the smaller teams better IMO as everyone has so much to learn. Now many teams have their packages mostly right but the big teams will spend the big bucks to find those small refinements to get them an advantage that the smaller teams will only be able to copy afterwards.

We'll see, should be interesting.

EvilMonkey

I can only see one strategy
Start on hard tyres drive as far as you possibly can on them come in get soft tyres and try and make them last till the end.

There will be less passing and most will happen in the pits when the tyres are changed. A few cars will drive off with loose wheel nuts as the pressure is put on the pit stop mechanics

Hopefully the cars will be as close as they are now, and Ferrari give Massa and Alonso a car to fight for wins in, right from the start. I'm sure McLaren, Brawn and Red Bull will be at the front too.

Ghost Train

Is Kers all agreed upon for next year or are williams still looking to use it

McLaren and Ferrari might miss it especially at for the start of races

Charlie-Bravo

one question...

So no re-fuelling during the race - when is the fuel put in? Before quali 1, 2 or 3 or the race?

frostie500

astrofluff wrote: »

one question...

So no re-fuelling during the race - when is the fuel put in? Before quali 1, 2 or 3 or the race?

It's going to be put in before the race, so low fuel qualifying will be back

amacachi

EvilMonkey wrote: »

I can only see one strategy
Start on hard tyres drive as far as you possibly can on them come in get soft tyres and try and make them last till the end.

There will be less passing and most will happen in the pits when the tyres are changed. A few cars will drive off with loose wheel nuts as the pressure is put on the pit stop mechanics

Hopefully the cars will be as close as they are now, and Ferrari give Massa and Alonso a car to fight for wins in, right from the start. I'm sure McLaren, Brawn and Red Bull will be at the front too.

Again it depends on how the new tyres are designed, can't see Bridgestone keeping along the same kind of development path they're on now.

EvilMonkey

amacachi wrote: »

Again it depends on how the new tyres are designed, can't see Bridgestone keeping along the same kind of development path they're on now.

Your right I'm assuming the tires will be similar to this year.
They could just keep picking their two softest compounds.

I haven't seen anything to suggest the FIA have asked Bridgestone to do something different. I cant see them just doing it without been asked. They haven't been able to test anything on an F1 car since the testing ban, I cant see them changing the tyres much between the end of 09 and start of 2010 season. When slicks were reintroduced they were already testing them at this stage of the season.

amacachi

EvilMonkey wrote: »

Your right I'm assuming the tires will be similar to this year.
They could just keep picking their two softest compounds.

I haven't seen anything to suggest the FIA have asked Bridgestone to do something different. I cant see them just doing it without been asked. They haven't been able to test anything on an F1 car since the testing ban, I cant see them changing the tyres much between the end of 09 and start of 2010 season. When slicks were reintroduced they were already testing them at this stage of the season.

I think the teams may hold a little more sway with Bridgestone than you think. Either way I still maintain that it'll take away from the racing, but hey, that's the FIA.

Frank Bullitt

I also wouldnt be surprised to see re-fueling brought back in in 2011 as well.

EvilMonkey

Hopefully, just like the tyre ban in 05 :rolleyes:

IM0

frostie500 wrote: »

It's going to be put in before the race, so low fuel qualifying will be back

So we are basically going back to how it used to be years ago, no refueling, low fuel qualifying, and tyres only pit stops, I hope bernie is coming out with a statement like
"yeah I know we fcuked around with the format over the last 10 years or so* but actually we decided that all the new changes were rubbish and just went back to the tried and tested format we had up till then, but it was great messing with the public wasnt it? - dont know about you lot but I certainly enjoyed it!"


*Disclaimer: everything here is open to people going back through the stats and correcting where applicable, its just Id swear when I watched F1 on the beeb 10+years ago this was the way it was?

Grim.

put them on super hards and ban stops all together tbh let the racing be done on the track

amacachi

me@ucd wrote: »

So we are basically going back to how it used to be years ago, no refueling, low fuel qualifying, and tyres only pit stops, I hope bernie is coming out with a statement like
"yeah I know we fcuked around with the format over the last 10 years or so* but actually we decided that all the new changes were rubbish and just went back to the tried and tested format we had up till then, but it was great messing with the public wasnt it? - dont know about you lot but I certainly enjoyed it!"


*Disclaimer: everything here is open to people going back through the stats and correcting where applicable, its just Id swear when I watched F1 on the beeb 10+years ago this was the way it was?

Think it was a little more than 10 years ago.

Grim. wrote: »

put them on super hards and ban stops all together tbh let the racing be done on the track

Gonna be some really exciting racing.:(

vincenzolorenzo

amacachi wrote: »

Think it was a little more than 10 years ago.

16 years ago actually. They brought refuelling back in for the 94 season. Personally i think the refuelling ban is going to lead to snore fest races. Not every race in the no-refuelling 1980s was a classic as the rose tinted people would have you believe

amacachi

vincenzolorenzo wrote: »

16 years ago actually. They brought refuelling back in for the 94 season. Personally i think the refuelling ban is going to lead to snore fest races. Not every race in the no-refuelling 1980s was a classic as the rose tinted people would have you believe

I've said several times in other threads that the "classic" races on BBC most weekend usually have one or two crackers and the rest are poor, and they're the best that could be found.

jediyoda1

it'd be more tense if they decided to have one pit station per driver, everyone had to come in at the same time and all the fuel loads were the same, then the best driver would definitely get the job done