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Opinions needed on this build please
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27-10-2009 11:01pm#1
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To be honest, I'm running a bit over-budget with that list as it is!
Especially when I factored in a copy of Win 7 into the bargain (I also have to add delivery of about €25-€30, I'd say, to that price). Are the i5s really that big of an improvement over the Core2Quads? If the performance is really significantly better, then I might see if I can put together an i5 build for in or around the same price, as you suggested.
As I said, though, as an general purpose machine to see me out for another few years, is what I put together above there fine as it is, do you reckon, especially the PSU and graphics card?0 -
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I was wondering how long it would take for someone to ask that! Let's just say I'm old fashioned. Seriously, though, there's quite a few old things I've got on floppy disk that I still use from time to time and for the sake of a few bob there's no harm in throwing in a floppy drive into the list, I figure. 0
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Well, to be honest, Deano, I've kind of got my heart set on a quad core Intel CPU, whether it be a C2Q or an i5 or whatever. Also, am I right in thinking that DDR3 RAM seems expensive right now for the difference it makes over DDR2? That seems to be the general consensus from stuff I've been reading during my research into all this. DDR2 would probably be more than enough for me for the time being, I'd say (of course, if I can afford to go i5 then it'll be DDR3 naturally).
Thanks for your feedback on the Corsair PSUs, it's good to get confirmation from someone who has personal experience of them that, as I suspected, they put out plenty of enough juice for my needs.
Perhaps I should give a bit more info regarding the components I choose in my original list. Regarding the mobo, I choose that P5QC because it has a floppy connector (naturally enough, a lot of them now are doing away with them altogether), plenty of SATA connectors and USB ports, a Firewire connector on the back panel and a connection on the motherboard for a front panel one too and the fact it has seperate keyboard and mouse PS/2 ports. My wireless keyboard and mouse use a PS/2 receiver and I'm perfectly happy with them so I want a mobo with both connectors so I can continue to use them. A lot of boards now are doing away with PS/2 connectors altogether in favour of extra USB ports and some other boards only offer a single PS/2 port for either a keyboard or mouse but not both at the same time so that was another factor in my decision in choosing the P5QC.
I chose that case because I like the understated look of it, I'm not a big fan of side panel windows or anything like that. It matches the look of my Samsung monitor too and it's dimensions mean that it'll fit into my workstation with a nice bit of clearance, unlike a lot of other towers. Plus it's cheap, which is always a bonus! Yet, despite the price, from the reviews I've read about it it seems to be fairly well built and offers decent airflow through the case.
So, what I was originally budgeting for was a Intel quad core processor (running stock, I won't be doing any overclocking or very little), 4GBs of RAM, a mobo that had all the connections to suit my requirements, a decent enough mid-range 1GB graphics card that could handle some occasional gaming, a 1TB Samsung hard drive, a DVD burner, floppy drive, card reader and a PSU that could easily power the whole lot and maybe a couple more hard drives if I decide to add them in the future and a copy of Windows 7 64bit. That's what I had in mind when I started out putting the list together and I was budgeting for something between about €700 and €850 all in.0 -
DDR3 is actually cheaper than DDR2 at the moment.If you want DDR3 and a C2Q have a look at my motherboard,it's on Komplett too,only disadvantage is no Floppy connection IIRC.But you could always pick up a USB powered one
DDR3 also has the advantage that it's runs at faster,its quite common to see DDR3 running at 2000MHz (DDR2 topped out at around 1200MHz) If you get P45 (Socket 775 motherboard,like the one you picked)beware they can only run up too 1333MHz before you start to see problems becasue of a chipset limiation.
Heres my build,I think this should you well
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=492762 - i5 750 - €185
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=496285 -MSI P55M - €93
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=340887 - Corsair DDR3 (X2) - €88
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=404889 - Corsair HX450 - €66
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=501602 - Powercolor 5750 1GB - €136
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=488176 - Sony NEC Optiarc DVD RW - €19
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=496258 - Samsung F3 1TB - €67
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=347261 - Cooler Master CM 690 - €69
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=500040 - Windows 7 - €95
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Looking good mate. Not a Fan of MSI myself (Gigabyte4lief!) but its a good mobo and it shouldn't let you down.
If I had to pick between those Graphics cards, I would deffinitly get the 5750. You might pay just a tad too much for it now because its shiny and new, but it will outlast the 4xxx usefulness by miles.
500w will be enough for that rig I would imagine.
I do notice a lack of an aftermarket cooler. Trust me you will want one, the fan that comes with the i5 is not exactly high quality.
I also recommend checking out other websites for their prices too, namely Scan.co.uk and eBuyer, who I am sure will have things cheaper, even after shipping
It won't hurt to check at the very least 0 -
Leman_Russ wrote: »Looking good mate. Not a Fan of MSI myself (Gigabyte4lief!) but its a good mobo and it shouldn't let you down.
If I had to pick between those Graphics cards, I would deffinitly get the 5750. You might pay just a tad too much for it now because its shiny and new, but it will outlast the 4xxx usefulness by miles.
500w will be enough for that rig I would imagine.
I do notice a lack of an aftermarket cooler. Trust me you will want one, the fan that comes with the i5 is not exactly high quality.
I also recommend checking out other websites for their prices too, namely Scan.co.uk and eBuyer, who I am sure will have things cheaper, even after shipping
It won't hurt to check at the very least
It should be fine for stock clocks (I just think that becasue I got a 1GHZ overclock on a 775 stock cooler lol)0 -
Leman_Russ wrote: »Not a Fan of MSI myself (Gigabyte4lief!)
Fail.
The number of issues I've had with effin' Gigabyte mobos over the years... replaced them all with MSIs and haven't had an issue since :P
Hellrazer, what's the budget for this build (including monitor)? Do you need an OS etc. as well?0 -
My Experience has been the total opposite!Fail.
The number of issues I've had with effin' Gigabyte mobos over the years... replaced them all with MSIs and haven't had an issue since :P
Hellrazer, what's the budget for this build (including monitor)? Do you need an OS etc. as well?
Oh well, looks like the Batch Gods hate us 0 -
As Deano said, I'm not worried about CPU cooling because I'll just be running it at stock speed so the bundled cooler will be fine for me for the time being.
Thanks for all the help and advice, lads. I think I'll go ahead with that i5 build then. I'll do a bit of checking on other sites to see if I can get some things cheaper than on Komplett but I'd prefer to get most, if not all, the parts from one place in order to only have to pay delivery once and get the whole lot in one go instead of in dribs and drabs from lots of different sites. Anyway, at least I now have a good idea of what stuff to look out for and what bits to get. Thanks again, folks! 0 -
aidan_dunne wrote: »As Deano said, I'm not worried about CPU cooling because I'll just be running it at stock speed so the bundled cooler will be fine for me for the time being.
Thanks for all the help and advice, lads. I think I'll go ahead with that i5 build then. I'll do a bit of checking on other sites to see if I can get some things cheaper than on Komplett but I'd prefer to get most, if not all, the parts from one place in order to only have to pay delivery once and get the whole lot in one go instead of in dribs and drabs from lots of different sites. Anyway, at least I now have a good idea of what stuff to look out for and what bits to get. Thanks again, folks!
Ebuyer charge less than Komplett for delivery and have cheaper prices :P0 -
Yep, I'll check out EBuyer and Hardwareversand and the like to see where else I can save a few quid if possible but I can see myself probably ending up ordering most, if not all, the stuff from Komplett just to save me the headache of ordering from multiple sites, unless of course I find there are significant savings to be made ordering from elsewhere.
I'll keep you all up to date on my progress and, of course, I'll post up pics and stuff here when the job gets done.:D 0 -
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Deano12345 wrote: »You dont know about the unlocking of the cores do you ?
I thought that only worked on Tricores (which are Quads with a Core Disabled)?
In any case, unlocking 2 cores that AMD have deemed unfit is pushing it a bit IMO.
And it doesn't always work. The ones that have sub standard cores (i.e. Cores that didn't make the rated clock speed) are only "soft" locked (and can be unlocked) but the ones that have a faulty 4th core cannot be unlocked.0 -
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