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29-10-2009 12:29am#1
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This is taken from a canadian website I copied it into an email once and now I can't find the original website, so feel free to discount it, I thought you would find it interesting though. (I'll keep looking for the website)There are only 2 out of 164 registered CKC breeds that by their very breed standard must be good with children: Staffordshire Bull terrier is one of them.
When university researchers in the UK were asked to rate the best 10 breeds for children they selected the Staffordshire Bull Terrier for their list based on its "bomb-proof" nature.
Most importantly, when researchers in Germany studied inappropriate aggression in several breeds they found the same level of inappropriate displays of aggression across all the dogs in the studies with one "notable" exception. None of the Staffordshire Bull Terriers displayed any types of aggression disorders. (The same could not be said for the test group of Golden Retrievers.)
The history of this breed does go back to dog fighting in the 1800s. However, this does not make them fundamentally different from other breeds. In fact, 88 of the 164 recognized CKC breeds were originally bred to something of equal severity, from hunting and killing fierce predators (including bears, badgers and lions) to biting or attacking people.
Few realize that all of the "bully" breeds were killed without hesitation (culled) if they showed any sign of human aggression. These dogs lived in the family homes of poor people; because of this they had to be excellent around families and children in particular. This resulted in a dog of exceptional intelligence and temperament.
The Staffordshire Bull Terrier is a one of the friendliest and silliest breeds in the dog world. They are highly intelligent and extremely submissive to people.
But what really sets the breed apart is their instinctive love for children. They have earned the title of "nanny dog".
I think they make the perfect family dog, just be aware that your kids would not be allowed to walk him alone until 16 years old. It can also be difficult to find somewhere that your staffie can have some off lead time as they must be on a lead in public.
EDIT: as with any dog training needs to start straight away, and they are a physical breed, plenty of exercise is needed but this can be in the form of a regular length walk then play in the house, they love to wrestle.
Actually (here I go off on a tangent) I was fascinated watching my dog, who is a cross, "learn" how to play with other dogs, instead of doing the usual jumping around, he was swinging his little ass around to put the others off balance, he didn't use his mouth a lot, but his body weight when playing, he still does this in the house if he's looking for a game, you could be sitting on the couch beside him, to suddenly have an bum in your cup of tea.
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Staffies are great pets, they are often referred to as the 'nanny dogs' due to the fact they are so good with children. We had one when I was younger and she was the most lovable thing ever, a real dote. They are quite playful but they tend to know their limits when playing also, well our one did anyway
They are in general a small to medium sized dog, and very very clean in the house.
I would definitely recommend the rescue option, staffies seem to have a bad reputation and a lot are left in pounds/shelters are people are less inclined to look at them as an option ... a real shame!
Sorry to hear about your own dog passing away btw, what i would maybe recommend though is to wait a while before you rush into getting another dog maybe?
Other than that best of luck with your search
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babystrawberry wrote: »When I say small it would be in comparison to a greyhound or newfie in fairness, do not mistake it with the size of a chihuahua!
well considering we're going from a rather large dobbie cross(she was a beaut)
a staffie would be a medium dog,,,
thanks for the replies and everything that is coming back is exactley what i've been hearing from people who i've talked to who've owned them and any where i look on the web i cant find any negative said about them,,they seem too good to be true,,not that i'm complaining as i've always like them 0 -
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She's lovely
I remember when I was younger, my dog Bart (I did say I was younger) was killed on the road. I can still honestly say that it was one of the most devestating days of my life. A few days later, my dad brought home another dog. For about 2 years I hated that dog, I feel awful for it now, it was obviously not his fault, and he was a sweatheart, but in my childs brain, he was there as a replacement, and there could be no replacement for bart. Before you decide to get another dog, it might be an idea to let a bit of time pass and give yourself and your family time to grieve for a very important family member. Of course, you know your family better than I do, but I thought I'd share that childhood memory of a time like you're going through now.
Ok some negatives on Staffies:
They can be quite headstrong.
They have strong jaws and they like to chew. (kongs help!)
They have to be fully controlled at all times, not because of them, but because of perception. There is nothing nicer than seeing a family out walking their well behaved restriced breed. I think they are a great advertisment for how a dog is shaped by his environment.
They are clowny dogs, great fun, but hard to switch off. They excite easily when young.
They generally have no fear, of people, situations etc so you have to be their "brain" when out and judge situations for them. (now this may be typical but not true for my boy who is afraid of traffic and being in the car)
They tend to be farty.
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roxiesmammy wrote: »Also u will have to get used to people hanging on to their kids when u pass saying something stupid to the child like, dont go near that dog it will go for you, also people will cross the road. Also while out walking, ur dog will prob be jumped on by smaller dogs usually of lead while yours is on lead and it will be yours and your dogs fault.
I got annoyed one day when a father insisted his child rub the dog, thats all well and good, but it was had been raining, the ground was muddy and the dog was excited, I was worried he'd jump and knock the child over. Thankfully he seemed to have a suss on what was happening and sat quietly enjoying the rub. No muddy kids that day.
I think that for every bad expereince you have with regards to people, you have a good one too. There tends to be a sort of understanding with people who know and understand restricted breeds and a lot of people go out of their way to be friendly too.
That small dog thing is very true. I found that when I had other dogs as well. In fact, I'd nearly bet that any good owner who keeps their dog under control has experienced this.
They do need to be muzzled, but a halti collar is sufficient afaik. I found a halti great for walking harley as it gives me more control.0 -
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roxiesmammy wrote: »also as they are on the rectrictied list not only can ur kids not walk the dog till their 16 also they are supposed to be muzzled while out at all times, and lead has not to be longer than 2ft.
i think it's 2 metre's?
http://www.ispca.ie/Restricted-Dog-Breeds.aspx#
http://www.corkcoco.ie/co/web/Cork%20County%20Council/Departments/Environment%20&%20Waste/Veterinary/Dog%20Control%20Service/Restricted%20Breeds
Where did they get this figure from "Fines of up to €1,269.74 can be imposed for breaches of this legislation."roxiesmammy wrote: »Also u will have to get used to people hanging on to their kids when u pass saying something stupid to the child like, dont go near that dog it will go for you, also people will cross the road. Also while out walking, ur dog will prob be jumped on by smaller dogs usually of lead while yours is on lead and it will be yours and your dogs fault.
ha i used to get people coming up to try and pat Tyson (boxer maybe Staff lab cross) he is a handsome fella, but used to be very skitish of people. He's good now though. But now I have Roxy German Shepherd I get the crossing the road scenario, and she's the quitest most lovable dog ever, she only wants strokes 0 -
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roxiesmammy wrote: »Also u will have to get used to people hanging on to their kids when u pass saying something stupid to the child like, dont go near that dog it will go for you, also people will cross the road. Also while out walking, ur dog will prob be jumped on by smaller dogs usually of lead while yours is on lead and it will be yours and your dogs fault.
+1 to the above. I avoid several dog walking areas around town because of these kind of people. Frustrating to put it mildly but they're only minor cons in comparison. I have two "restricted breeds" so I get this twice as much. :rolleyes: Wouldn't change anything to do with them for all the tea in China though 0 -
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confusion!!
I said that staffies had to be kept on lead by law, Anoeta said ALL dogs had to be, so my post about that not being the case, was about all non-restricted dogs. Sorry, I can see where the confusion came in, I didn't make that clear in the post.0 -
helena.ryan wrote: » confusion!!
I said that staffies had to be kept on lead by law, Anoeta said ALL dogs had to be, so my post about that not being the case, was about all non-restricted dogs. Sorry, I can see where the confusion came in, I didn't make that clear in the post.
oh no - what a numpty I am re-read and it's clear that's what you meant - me trying to work and post at same time - must remember i am male and can only do one thing at a timeBy law all dogs must be kept under effective control – owners may be held liable for any injury or damage caused if their dog attacks a person or livestock.
http://www.environ.ie/en/LocalGovernment/DogControl/
this makes interesting reading http://www.environ.ie/en/Publications/StatisticsandRegularPublications/DogControl/FileDownLoad,19869,en.xls
2008 20,000 dogs seized/surrended/collected 10,000 PTS0 -
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Sorry this is totally off topic but am I reading all these posts correctly?
You are allowed to legally own a pit bull or staffie dog in Ireland??
I thought I read they were illegal and if you had one the correct authorities could take them away?? 0 -
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ToniTuddle wrote: »So if I wanted to have one in Donegal I could then?:)
Restricted Dog Breeds in Ireland
The Control of Dogs Regulations 1998 specify 10 breeds which need strict control.
American Pit Bull Terrier
Bull Mastiff
Doberman Pinscher
English Bull Terrier
German Shepherd (Alsatian)
Japanese Akita
Japanese Tosa
Rhodesian Ridgeback
Rottweiler
Staffordshire Bull Terrier
Every other strain or cross-breed of these dogs are also covered.
These dogs must be securely muzzled and kept on a dog chain or leash. not more than 2m long, in a public place and supervised by someone aged over 16 years who is capable of controlling the dog.
Source: http://www.ispca.ie/Restricted-Dog-Breeds.aspx
Yes indeed, always wanted an APBT myself 0 -
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yes most regular breeders ,show dogs and his breed will be reg with the kennel club uk/or ireland plenty of irish/english web sites, so you will find a breeder near you without a problem,i wouldent recommend getting a dog from a newspaper add,and it is said make sure you see its family,when you buy the pup you will get the pedigree papers with it ,and its family tree,my english bulldog[teddy] has a better family tree than the queen.ToniTuddle wrote: »Would the regular breeder have papers to prove he is a legal breeder like??0 -
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