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    #32
    Lauragoesmad
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    DBCyc wrote: »
    I've posted this before on this forum but I have not really had any problems with anyone over my staffy. I would never muzzle her as she wouldn't hurt a fly. Then again there are a load of staffies around where I live.

    I wouldn't let the fact that they are a restricted breed put you off, cos the positives definitely outweigh any negatives. Staffies are fantastic dogs and are such good companions. My dog always puts a smile on my face as she will wag her tail practically anytime I look at her and when she's super happy she does the staffy wiggle which is great.

    All in all, a staffy will make you very happy...
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    A staffie and a ball go together like jelly and icecream. My staffie, Bessie is the same. Loves to play, is brilliant with kids and loves all the other doggies that I have to stay.:) I would love to transport her into the body of another breed so that people wouldn't be scared of her and she could be off the lead on walks though. The way she stares at the dogs that are running around off the lead is so sad. :(
    And as one poster said there is one other bad thing. They do have the smelliest farts ever! Be prepared to mix probiotic yogurt in with their dry food so your nose doesn't fall off.:D


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    #33
    DBCyc
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    Lauragoesmad wrote: »
    I would love to transport her into the body of another breed so that people wouldn't be scared of her and she could be off the lead on walks though. The way she stares at the dogs that are running around off the lead is so sad. :(

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    #34
    ToniTuddle
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    getz wrote: »
    my english bulldog[teddy] has a better family tree than the queen.


    :DHa! Score!!:P
    There's no way I can get one now while living at home with the mother this year, I've got 3 cats and and old fox terrier. But thanks for the info :cool: I'll definitely be getting one in few years time.


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    #35
    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    Another Staffie owner here!.

    Here's Ruby..

    I've deleted the photos. - MAKIKOMI

    I've never come across a happier or funnier dog in my life.

    .


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    #36
    star-pants
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    As there have been complaints - I'm obligued to remind you that dogs on the restricted breeds list are required to be muzzled and kept on a lead.
    The Control of Dogs Regulations 1998 specify 10 breeds which need strict control.

    * American Pit Bull Terrier

    * Bull Mastiff

    * Doberman Pinscher

    * English Bull Terrier

    * German Shepherd (Alsatian)

    * Japanese Akita

    * Japanese Tosa

    * Rhodesian Ridgeback

    * Rottweiler

    * Staffordshire Bull Terrier


    Every other strain or cross-breed of these dogs are also covered.

    These dogs must be securely muzzled and kept on a dog chain or leash. not more than 2m long, in a public place and supervised by someone aged over 16 years who is capable of controlling the dog.


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    #37
    ToniTuddle
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    star-pants wrote: »
    As there have been complaints -

    Complaints about the conversations going on in this thread?:confused:


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    #38
    Whispered
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    There is no hope for those breeds while the type of ignorance needed to complain about very obvioulsy loving and responsible owners exists.

    Narrow minded, ignorant people disgust me. Probably the same type who stand twitching their net curtains.


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    #39
    star-pants
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    Complaints were not about people owning staffies - but about people openly saying they don't muzzle their staffs and on occasions allow it off the lead - which goes against The Control of Dog Regulations 1998 as above.


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    #40
    ToniTuddle
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    star-pants wrote: »
    Complaints were not about people owning staffies - but about people openly saying they don't muzzle their staffs and on occasions allow it off the lead - which goes against The Control of Dog Regulations 1998 as above.

    Which basically means they were breaking the law....
    Just wondering:
    Would they get a warning first and a possible fine or have the dog taken off them if they continued to leave the dogs off the lead/unmuzzled?


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    star-pants
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    ToniTuddle wrote: »
    Which basically means they were breaking the law....
    yes..
    ToniTuddle wrote:
    Just wondering:
    Would they get a warning first and a possible fine or have the dog taken off them if they continued to leave the dogs off the lead/unmuzzled?

    AFAIK you can recieve and on the spot fine, and failure to pay can lead to a court case. That's for dogs not under control.
    For breaching bye-laws Fines up to €1,904.61 on conviction.
    More info here


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    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    star-pants wrote: »
    As there have been complaints - I'm obligued to remind you that dogs on the restricted breeds list are required to be muzzled and kept on a lead.


    This is why I rarely use this forum anylonger.

    I've said this before, and stupidly I've ignored my own advice, be VERY CAREFUL re. posting photos of your restricted breeds in this forum because whilst there are those of us who love a understand the various breeds (on the restricted list) there are people here lurking and waiting to use ANYTHING you post about your dog against you and it.

    They scurry about here ready for us to let our guard down, be careful.

    My advice would be not to post photos of your dogs if they're on the restricted breeds list or don't give locations where you exercise them, regardless if you let them off the lead or not.

    Thats my final word here.


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    #43
    DBCyc
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    Some people are very sad, petty individuals


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    #44
    lisajane
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    I love their staffy smile. Best smile ever on a dog, a big grin! Anyway, best dog ever. You won't regret getting a staffy OP.


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    #45
    ToniTuddle
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    So basically as with anywhere in life and anywhere esp online, there will always be a nasty fart somewhere trying to bring ya down:eek:
    Must try and remember your advice! I be too nice at times >.<

    *Whispers slighty off topic but kinda on topic...."
    Just back from the cinema and saw UP. Was not impressed when I saw the three "bad" dogs in the film just happened to be a Doberman, Rottweiler, and an english bulldog or some form of it and the other bad dogs were all similar in appearance to staffies and terriers!! They should have made them not so....specific!! And of course the good dog looked like a cute golden retriever(they are lovely dogs but come on like!!):mad:


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    #46
    Paul91
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    some info about preventing dog bites for those concerned


    CORK COUNTY COUNCIL VETERINARY DEPARTMENT LAUNCH DOG BITE PREVENTION BOOKLET

    http://www.corkcoco.ie/co/pdf/958443546.doc

    In late 2008 the department published a research paper based on 234 investigated dog bite incidents. The research identified concerns in terms of the ever present potential of a fatal dog bite attack and a requirement for dog bite prevention education in Ireland.


    http://www.corkcoco.ie/co/pdf/171487984.pdf


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    #47
    lrushe
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    star-pants wrote: »
    yes..


    AFAIK you can recieve and on the spot fine, and failure to pay can lead to a court case. That's for dogs not under control.
    For breaching bye-laws Fines up to €1,904.61 on conviction.
    More info here

    Would you still be fined it you had your restricted breed off leash but muzzled?? Just asking cos I can make my peace with muzzling my dog but I find it extremely unfair for her to spend her walks on leash especially as I have two other dogs (not restricted breeds) running around freely.


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    #48
    Paul91
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    lrushe wrote: »
    Would you still be fined it you had your restricted breed off leash but muzzled?? Just asking cos I can make my peace with muzzling my dog but I find it extremely unfair for her to spend her walks on leash especially as I have two other dogs (not restricted breeds) running around freely.

    I think the rule is, dog on 2m or less leash, muzzled and with person over 16 years of age - and if you have your dog of leash but muzzled your breaking the rule - but that is public areas - if you are on private land i'm not sure

    mind you, i'm pretty sure when i was 15 i would be stronger and more able to control a dog than a lot of folks out there - but rules is rules


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    #49
    star-pants
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    Yup you would be breaking it if the dog was muzzled but off a lead.
    It states they must be muzzled and on a lead of 2m or less at all times - I honestly can't be 100% regarding private land though but I'm sure if something happened/someone saw there might be an issue.


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    lrushe
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    star-pants wrote: »
    Yup you would be breaking it if the dog was muzzled but off a lead.
    It states they must be muzzled and on a lead of 2m or less at all times - I honestly can't be 100% regarding private land though but I'm sure if something happened/someone saw there might be an issue.


    This is what frustrates me so much, the dogs on the restricted breeds list are some of the most high-energy dogs out there yet how am I supposed to extingished that energy on leash grrrrrrrrrrrrr :confused:


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    #51
    Whispered
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    Yep lrushe, and the silly thing is, Dogs who are not socialised properly can become agressive. So by not being able to socialise these dogs you could really, be creating the problem you are trying so hard to avoid. It's a circle.:(

    regarding complaints. Maybe ones experiences in life makes them bitter. I have lost a lot of respect for someone, and now I'm sad. :(


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    Paul91
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    star-pants wrote: »
    I honestly can't be 100% regarding private land though but I'm sure if something happened/someone saw there might be an issue.

    I read somewhere that you had to make sure dogs could not get into the "public" area from private property - i.e. high fence/wall - but AFAIK you do not need to have a restricted dog leashed and muzzled on private property, so in theory you could ask a farmer if he has a field that was secured you could walk you dog in free of muzzle and lead.

    what makes me laugh is I talked to two people in the last week with GS pups and neither of them where informed by the breeders that they needed to have their dogs muzzled and on leash at all times in the public area


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    #53
    andreac
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    You do not have to keep restricted breeds muzzled on private property.


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    Paul91
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    the restricted breeds are based on the 10 breeds and any other strain or cross of every breed or type of dog described - (now i'm not trying to be clever here but) does that mean that all "Shepherd" breeds are restricted - Belgium Shepherd, Old English etc and also aren't Boxer's part of the Staff family?


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    #55
    andreac
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    No it means crosses of these particular breeds, so if its a staffie cross, or a rottie cross.


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    Paul91
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    Paul91 wrote: »
    the restricted breeds are based on the 10 breeds and any other strain or cross of every breed or type of dog described - (now i'm not trying to be clever here but) does that mean that all "Shepherd" breeds are restricted - Belgium Shepherd, Old English etc and also aren't Boxer's part of the Staff family?

    ya see it does state strain as well as cross - reason i am asking is that our German Shepherd could well be a Belgium Shepherd as we got her from the rescue and have no way of knowing, so as a Belgium Shep does she need to be muzzled?


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    andreac
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    No, as a belgian shepherd is a separate breed to a german shepherd.


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    Paul91
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    andreac wrote: »
    No, as a belgian shepherd is a separate breed to a german shepherd.

    cool - Belgium Shepherd she is then - any one know what the difference is?


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    Paul91
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    interesting research from New South Wales

    http://www.dlg.nsw.gov.au/Files/Information/Compare.pdf

    breed most liekely to attack people - X-breeds for 4 years running - but they are no on the restricted list


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    Paul91
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    this is the UK one

    http://www.canineconcepts.co.uk/ccp51/cc/dog-behaviour/dogs-and-the-law.shtml
    The Dangerous Dog Act 1991


    This act is relatively detailed and can be found in its entirety by clicking here. The highlights are as follows:
    • The Dangerous Dog Act applies to ALL dogs.
    • If a dog is dangerously out of control in a public place, the owner or person in charge of the dog is guilty of an offence. A dog shall be regarded as dangerously out of control on any occasion on which there are grounds for reasonable apprehension that it will injure any person, whether or not it actually does so.
    • This offence can result in a fine or a prison sentence not exceeding 6 months. The dog may also be destroyed and the owner disqualified from owning a dog for a specific period of time.
    • A Police constable or an officer of the local authority may seize a dog if they consider it dangerously out of control.
    • Specific regulations apply to fighting dogs. These are deemed as Pit Bull Terriers, Japanese Tosa or any dog considered by the Secretary of State to have been breed for fighting. The act looks likely to prohibit these dogs entirely in the future, but currently in such cases it is an offence if you:
      • breed, sell or exchange such a dog
      • have the dog in a public place without a muzzle and kept on a lead.
      • allow the dog to stray.

    doesn't that make more sense, that any dog out of control
    on which there are grounds for reasonable apprehension that it will injure any person
    is a "restricted/dangerous" dog?


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    Whispered
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    I thought that a belgian is a bit smaller and has longer hair? Could be way off the mark though.


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