Mad Max: Fury Road

BuilderPlumber

rockatansky wrote: »

Unless James Cameron was to do a 180 turn and get back on the Directors chair, there's absolutely no hope of this ever happening:(.

Hopefully, Mad Max Fury Road will inspire a return to classic action films. A quality Terminator war movie focusing on the rise of John Connor and directed by Cameron or George Miller would be good. The end result would be great.

e_e

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Hopefully, Mad Max Fury Road will inspire a return to classic action films. A quality Terminator war movie focusing on the rise of John Connor and directed by Cameron or George Miller would be good. The end result would be great.

Just as long as Cameron doesn't fill it with smurfs and a really cheesy romance.

Fysh

For the first time in literally years, I went to see a film twice during its initial theatrical release. That was Fury Road. And it was totally worth it. I found myself picking up on more little details in the overall setup this time around, but I still thoroughly enjoyed myself. I'm already looking forward to buying the blu-ray to check out the black & white score-only version.

nc19

Just saw it tonight

Meh!

Mel was a far better Max.

Mad Max 2 was a far better film.



Apart from the name I can't see what it had to do with Mad Max. Glad I didn't pay to see it........shoulda really tried to do it with Gibson imo

Adamantium

Seeing a great mainstream film makes me glad that the medium of cinema exists at all.

You know how some films come out like Terminator 2 (I'm just using it as an example), and you wonder why that it was never made before because it seems so obvious and now it's hard to imagine a cinema world where Terminator 2 doesn't exist, I can see Fury Road having that impact.

Who's going to remember the 7 Fast and Furious movies or 4 Transformer movies in 20 years time. Does anyone in 2015 go "God remember those 7 police academy films, something to remember weren't they"

I think some of the best mainstream films that are now classics look outlandish when you look at the premise:

The Terminator
Ghostbusters,
Back to The Future
Predator
The Matrix

BuilderPlumber

Adamantium wrote: »

Seeing a great mainstream film makes me glad that the medium of cinema exists at all.

You know how some films come out like Terminator 2 (I'm just using it as an example), and you wonder why that it was never made before because it seems so obvious and now it's hard to imagine a cinema world where Terminator 2 doesn't exist, I can see Fury Road having that impact.

Who's going to remember the 7 Fast and Furious movies or 4 Transformer movies in 20 years time. Does anyone in 2015 go "God remember those 7 police academy films, something to remember weren't they"

I think some of the best mainstream films that are now classics look outlandish when you look at the premise:

The Terminator
Ghostbusters,
Back to The Future
Predator
The Matrix

True. I think the likes of Police Academy were films for a particular time and lived and died in that time. 7 of them anyhow was way too much. Why couldn't we have had 7 Mad Max or Terminator films instead?

Mad Max and Terminator are series where I think the second film set the bar. The sequel in both cases improved on a very good original. But I preferred the way Mad Max went after that. Beyond Thunderdome, like series 4 of Love/Hate, is very very underrated and was brave to get away from being a total remake of Mad Max 2. And Fury Road is imo is another quality film and update of MM2. George Miller has proven to be an excellent director and I look forward maybe afterall to get my 7 Mad Max films.

As said, I would love to see some more Terminator films too .. with a concentration on the war. Post apocalypse movies done right are the best entertainment there is along with drug dealer related films/series, the right Bond movie and, in the past, a good Western.

sabat

nc19 wrote: »

Glad I didn't pay to see it........

Presuming this means you downloaded some version- I can only say that if you haven't seen this in the cinema then you haven't really seen it.

Links234

Finally saw it

This and John Wick were two of my favourites this year

nc19

sabat wrote:

Presuming this means you downloaded some version- I can only say that if you haven't seen this in the cinema then you haven't really seen it.

It would have just been bigger and louder but still as dull and still missing the Mad Maxness imo

Fysh

nc19 wrote: »

It would have just been bigger and louder but still as dull and still missing the Mad Maxness imo

Having watched it a second time I certainly think it's a film where the spectacle is best enjoyed on as big a screen (and at as high a resolution) as possible, at least the first time around.

But if you found it dull, I don't think the screen size would necessarilly change that.

What sort of thing do you mean it's missing in terms of its "Mad maxness"? I rewatched the original over the weekend and this certainly feels like it fits in the same universe; the intro sequence does IMO a very nice job of covering that. On top of that,

Max's shocked jolt (possibly temporary) out of his almost PTSD-like state when Splendid dies in a manner all too familiar and horrific to him

worked very nicely IMO, and with the original film fresh in my mind it's one of relatively few instances of a later film in a series calling back to the earlier film that was not only effective but IMO more effective through the association.

ktulu123

nc19 wrote: »

It would have just been bigger and louder but still as dull and still missing the Mad Maxness imo

I'm sorry but watching a ****e cam version of the film is not the same as it would be in the cinema or when the blu ray is released. What "Mad Maxness" was missing from it?

pixelburp

nc19 wrote: »

It would have just been bigger and louder but still as dull and still missing the Mad Maxness imo

With the greatest respect, if you watched this movie through one one of those camcorder rips available on the internet, I don't think that's anywhere near a legitimate position to criticise any movie on its merits. You may say it'd 'just been bigger and louder', but it would have also not looked like crap. Give the film some respect and allow it to be seen in the form its meant to.

Also, which Mad Max did you want? The firsts low-budget, family revenge drama where Max is barely the protagonist; the second as it channeled the Man-with-no-name western styling (which Fury Road is clearly latching onto); or Thunderdome's obvious nods towards Neverland and its more... fun approach to the apocalypse?

Joeface

proper block buster now anyway , $280million taken at the box office , it will breeze past the 300 mark ,

Release was timed very well to avoid the likes of Sans Andreas or Jurassic .

BuilderPlumber

pixelburp wrote: »

Also, which Mad Max did you want? The firsts low-budget, family revenge drama where Max is barely the protagonist; the second as it channeled the Man-with-no-name western styling (which Fury Road is clearly latching onto); or Thunderdome's obvious nods towards Neverland and its more... fun approach to the apocalypse?

I think all films in this series or any other for that matter should be compared to each other. A different message and era is depicted in each. The first film depicted the last days of the world as we know it and focused on revenge at the end. It was low budget but very well made and inventive. It certainly is the most different of the four.

The second film is basically a Western with a community of good people pitched against and evil and greedy enemy. It is very akin to Shane, Magnificent 7 or A Fistfull of Dollars. It is one of the best action films ever and is what most people associate Mad Max with.

The third film had to bring in other issues such as alternative fuel sources, a new form of trade, new religions and new legal systems. It can be seen as a cross between the second film, Peter Pan and films about the Roman Empire. This was a very underrated film and should be enjoyed under its own merits and not as a similar film to the second one.

Film four most resembled the second and took some elements from the third as well. Issues like sickness, scarcity of other resources besides fuel, a rich/poor divide, etc. came into this and once more it explored issues not dealt with by the last films.

Each film brought something different to the table and that's the test of a good series. Other contemporary series seemed to go down the total remake every time. Films I used to enjoy for example in the past that I would not now include:

Rambo: admittedly, the first one is still a good film. But the sequels have dated horribly. Behind all the spectacular action lies a one-sided pro-American, anti communist/USSR propaganda where a bad Russian who enjoys torturing people is lurking. Have not seen the most recent one.

Policy Academy: a product of its times too. 6 sequels basically remaking the same film.

Missing in Action: the poor man's Rambo. I would not watch for the same reasons.

Karate Kid: saw this on the TV a couple of years back. Awful. And I remember enjoying this at the time!

Rocky: was never much of a fan even at the time of its sequels. When they started again politicising it with the anti-Russian stuff, enough said.

That's the difference between the above and films like Mad Max or Terminator. In the latter, there's still much more to be told whereas the former are based on some boxer who lacks belief but rises again, or some karate guy doing the same, or some Vietnam veteran going to battle with communists and winning this time, or some group of police recruits who are regarded as incompetent but still save the day.

nc19

I just felt that if you took the Max character out of this film and changed its name it would have just been another end of the world type film. Nothing in it screamed Mad Max imo. It was too polished and shiny imo. The original was gritty, striped back. Obviously vastly different budgets and I feel Fury Road suffered from a large budget.

I have watched an uncountable amount of ripped movies over the years, some before seeing them on the big screen, some after. Never made a difference to me.

I have watched the new Bonds, Expendables, Pixar stuff, Fast and Furious etc all as cam rips and enjoyed them. This film for whatever reason left me cold.

MrStuffins

nc19 wrote: »

I just felt that if you took the Max character out of this film and changed its name it would have just been another end of the world type film. Nothing in it screamed Mad Max imo. It was too polished and shiny imo. The original was gritty, striped back. Obviously vastly different budgets and I feel Fury Road suffered from a large budget.

I have watched an uncountable amount of ripped movies over the years, some before seeing them on the big screen, some after. Never made a difference to me.

I have watched the new Bonds, Expendables, Pixar stuff, Fast and Furious etc all as cam rips and enjoyed them. This film for whatever reason left me cold.

Sorry dude, but if you are saying that watching a Cam rip of a movie like this one, or any other visual heavy blockbuster, compares to seeing it on the big screen then you're talking out of your a*se!

BuilderPlumber

nc19 wrote: »

I just felt that if you took the Max character out of this film and changed its name it would have just been another end of the world type film. Nothing in it screamed Mad Max imo. It was too polished and shiny imo. The original was gritty, striped back. Obviously vastly different budgets and I feel Fury Road suffered from a large budget.

I have watched an uncountable amount of ripped movies over the years, some before seeing them on the big screen, some after. Never made a difference to me.

I have watched the new Bonds, Expendables, Pixar stuff, Fast and Furious etc all as cam rips and enjoyed them. This film for whatever reason left me cold.

Personally, I thought it was the best film I went to see since Casino Royale. And it felt very much like Mad Max to me.

But I agree with film budgets. I have watched some awful low budget Vietnam war films in the past that were so bad they were almost good! And then there was that Dojan film, a kind of a Mad Max meets Star Wars. Interesting concept, but it did not work! On the other side of things, there are some big budget films that fell like lead balloons. Waterworld for example.

But the first Mad Max used a low budget excellently and is interesting as it is set in the last days of normality rather than post apocalypse. The second much bigger budget Mad Max of course has been the one that is most remembered and is the template followed by all the other Mad Max films and other post apocalypse films.

I loved Fury Road personally. But I would also like to see a new Mad Max film made in the style and era of the first one too. But not a remake of it. Perhaps we could see how society fell and the impact it had on some of the characters from the original film. It could be set before and after the events of the first film. Perhaps with a montage of key elements of the first film linking the two parts?

Bandana boy

Dull

Wow

I can think of many ways to describe this movie but I would never use Dull.
Are you sure you saw the correct movie ?

Also
Spectacle movies like this really need to be seen on a big screen. Cams just can not do it justice , that said I find every cam download horrible to watch.

I really enjoyed this movie , more than I enjoyed a movie in a long time , but I would not be putting it into the sphere of T2 or matrix just yet.






but Dull !!
Wow

nc19

MrStuffins wrote:

Sorry dude, but if you are saying that watching a Cam rip of a movie like this one, or any other visual heavy blockbuster, compares to seeing it on the big screen then you're talking out of your a*se!

I really didn't say that.........

What I said was, for me, it didn't change my opinion of the film

nc19

Bandana boy wrote:

but Dull !! Wow

Opinions are like asholes as the man says!!!

weadick

Would you need to have seen or have a knowledge of the story to the other films before seeing this?

Adamantium

weadick wrote: »

Would you need to have seen or have a knowledge of the story to the other films before seeing this?

I'd actually watch Mad Max 1 just for an intro (which I had never seen up until last week and it isn't necessary to watch Fury Road).
It's a different film to what I was expecting cause its pre nuclear,( a world on its way to decaying) and provides a lot of the feel or backstory for the world. Very eerie, sad film

Fysh

weadick wrote: »

Would you need to have seen or have a knowledge of the story to the other films before seeing this?

I hadn't watched any of the previous films in the best part of ten years before watching it and I thought it was fine - there are a couple of things where you miss out on a bit of background detail like

the various dead people Max keeps seeing, particularly his daughter

or

why Splendid's death under Immortan Joe's wheels affects Max

, but it's nothing that stops you following the story and enjoying the film.

BuilderPlumber

weadick wrote: »

Would you need to have seen or have a knowledge of the story to the other films before seeing this?

You wouldn't have to but definitely watching them enhances your viewing experience. Personally, I saw Beyond Thunderdome first and was fascinated about finding out more and then watched Mad Max 1 and 2. Clearly, certain things in Beyond Thunderdome (like Max' refusal to kill Blaster once he knows he is not what he thinks or why Max abandons his own goals and goes out of his way to help others even risking death) are explained in the first 2.

I feel the 4th is set after the first or second but before the third. All the weapons Max gets from the girls seem to be the same ones Max hands into Bartertown. I think the first 3 are set one after the other but the fourth is set somewhere between 1 and 3.

BuilderPlumber

Adamantium wrote: »

I'd actually watch Mad Max 1 just for an intro (which I had never seen up until last week and it isn't necessary to watch Fury Road).
It's a different film to what I was expecting cause its pre nuclear,( a world on its way to decaying) and provides a lot of the feel or backstory for the world. Very eerie, sad film

This is a very different film to the three sequels but provides all the background to tell us why Max makes the decisions he makes in the next films. Apart from the a few years from now statement in the opening credits, nothing in the first 15 minutes would tell you that you were watching anything other than an ordinary cop film. But when we see the poor state of the police headquarters and biker gangs taking over train stations, etc., we know things are not all they seem. And we see a confused world where some things are very normal and other things are not. E.g. the poor state of the police HQ v the normal looking pub where Goose is watching (presumably) his girlfriend sing.

At the time it was made, no one was aware of how successful the series would be. But the film did imply the world was in crisis and that crime was seriously out of control. The whole backstory was fillled in in the second film and is implied from then onwards that normal society like seen in the first film is gone.

People often started off watching the series with either 2 or 3 and thus 1 is a big shock to those expecting another desert chase involving Max helping out good people. People used to Papagallo's refinery or Bartertown being the closest to normal society will be shocked to see TV, pubs, normal houses, normally dressed people, diners, train stations, shops, farms, normal vehincles and acknowledgement of money in it.

rockatansky

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

This is a very different film to the three sequels but provides all the background to tell us why Max makes the decisions he makes in the next films. Apart from the a few years from now statement in the opening credits, nothing in the first 15 minutes would tell you that you were watching anything other than an ordinary cop film. But when we see the poor state of the police headquarters and biker gangs taking over train stations, etc., we know things are not all they seem. And we see a confused world where some things are very normal and other things are not. E.g. the poor state of the police HQ v the normal looking pub where Goose is watching (presumably) his girlfriend sing.

At the time it was made, no one was aware of how successful the series would be. But the film did imply the world was in crisis and that crime was seriously out of control. The whole backstory was fillled in in the second film and is implied from then onwards that normal society like seen in the first film is gone.

People often started off watching the series with either 2 or 3 and thus 1 is a big shock to those expecting another desert chase involving Max helping out good people. People used to Papagallo's refinery or Bartertown being the closest to normal society will be shocked to see TV, pubs, normal houses, normally dressed people, diners, train stations, shops, farms, normal vehincles and acknowledgement of money in it.

Lets not forget it has a nice shiny new Black on Black Pursuit Special in all its original glory! Not like the cannibalised rust bucket in the later films!

Reggie.

rockatansky wrote: »

Lets not forget it has a nice shiny new Black on Black Pursuit Special in all its original glory! Not like the cannibalised rust bucket in the later films!

What's that

Cantona's Collars

Reggie. wrote: »

What's that

The car,it's all about the car.Even in Fury Road he shouts "That's my car" after the War Boys rebuilt what was left of it after the opening chase.

MrStuffins

nc19 wrote: »

I really didn't say that.........

What I said was, for me, it didn't change my opinion of the film

There's absolutely no way of telling this. Unless you could, somehow, see the film for the first time on a Cam and then see it for the first time again in the cinema.

nc19

MrStuffins wrote:

There's absolutely no way of telling this. Unless you could, somehow, see the film for the first time on a Cam and then see it for the first time again in the cinema.

1st viewing is a rip......not bad

2nd viewing in the cinema.....not bad

Same opinion