Mad Max: Fury Road

Samuri Suicide

Watching this now for the first time. Visual adrenaline intensity...am fvcking loving it!! Don't want it to finish.

Ardent

Mad Max Fury Road without the CGI. Insane!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfm4gvxNW_o&feature=youtu.be

BoJack Horseman

That is some work.

rockatansky

Amazing! Guess it's time for a rewatch!

conorhal

Sad Professor wrote: »

Which makes sense as it was all female.

I'm not sure if you are disagreeing with my post, but my point was that an all-female society is not the same thing as a matriarchal society. So the failure of the "green place" shouldn't necessarily be read as a dismissal of matriarchy. If anything I think the ending of the film is saying that women may be better suited to rule, even if they need the help of men to do it.

I think people are reading waaaaay too much into a few throwaway comments by Miller and the odd OP ED piece about how 'feminist' Fury Road is.
It pays lip service to feminism in a movie that essentially rehashes the first three movies, in much the same manner that The Force Awakens does, mechanically bolting together the successful elements from each with the most minimal character development you can possibly get away with and popping out a competent action movie that has little more to say then ‘enjoy your popcorn!’.

Sad Professor

Just noticed e_e closed his account.

Arghus

Sad Professor wrote: »

Just noticed e_e closed his account.

What a shame. Always seemed like a reasonable fellow.

That video is ****ing savage!

pixelburp

Sad Professor wrote: »

Just noticed e_e closed his account.

Yeah, noticed that myself the other week; a definite shame, he really contributed to the discussion on this forum in a positive and varied manner. Still adds to his letterboxd account so he still maintains his cinematic online footprint elsewhere.

BMMachine

Sad Professor wrote: »

Just noticed e_e closed his account.

liked that guy

thegreengoblin

Black and white version gets an official release...and Warner Bros make lots more dosh. I'm presuming the bonus content has already been released.

Speaking of which, did anyone see the documentary on the original film, The Madness of Max, which was on the Anthology blu ray? Really enjoyed it...proper old school stuff.

cowboyBuilder

thegreengoblin wrote: »

Black and white version gets an official release...and Warner Bros make lots more dosh. I'm presuming the bonus content has already been released.

Speaking of which, did anyone see the documentary on the original film, The Madness of Max, which was on the Anthology blu ray? Really enjoyed it...proper old school stuff.

So the B+W version, is this on the BluRay special edition ? or still not out ?


edit - OK out on December 6th ...
I wonder will it include both editions - it should ..


http://www.hitfix.com/the-dartboard/mad-max-fury-road-comes-to-dvd-in-black-white-special-edition

thegreengoblin

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

So the B+W version, is this on the BluRay special edition ? or still not out ?


edit - OK out on December 6th ...
I wonder will it include both editions - it should ..


http://www.hitfix.com/the-dartboard/mad-max-fury-road-comes-to-dvd-in-black-white-special-edition

Yeah hasn't been released before. Someone uploaded their own version to Vimeo last year but it was swiftly taken down.

I think this has merit, it's not your standard extra half an hour of footage that was deemed too boring to be included in the film or anything like that. Just a pity it didn't come out on the previous blu ray which many of us already own!

Chain Smoker

thegreengoblin wrote: »

Yeah hasn't been released before. Someone uploaded their own version to Vimeo last year but it was swiftly taken down.

I think this has merit, it's not your standard extra half an hour of footage that was deemed too boring to be included in the film or anything like that. Just a pity it didn't come out on the previous blu ray which many of us already own!

I think the fact it's being somewhat thrown away implies that it's not that great. Will watch it but I'm not expecting a lot.

The kind of person mad enough to buy a box set just to get it will be happy out by just having it in their possession after all this talk about it.

cowboyBuilder

I don't own the BluRay, but might get this - providing it includes the original version.

Decuc500

pixelburp wrote: »

Yeah, noticed that myself the other week; a definite shame, he really contributed to the discussion on this forum in a positive and varied manner. Still adds to his letterboxd account so he still maintains his cinematic online footprint elsewhere.

Come back e_e. Always liked hearing his reviews of films from the Dublin Film Festival.

Fysh

thegreengoblin wrote: »

Yeah hasn't been released before. Someone uploaded their own version to Vimeo last year but it was swiftly taken down.

I think this has merit, it's not your standard extra half an hour of footage that was deemed too boring to be included in the film or anything like that. Just a pity it didn't come out on the previous blu ray which many of us already own!

I'm keen to see the proper version - I got about half an hour through the fanedited version from last year but the editor who put it together did a sloppy job (in it for the bragging rights, I reckon) as they hadn't balanced the contrast properly on a lot of the shots, plus they'd done a pretty shocking job of removing the original dialogue & effects (but again, they seemed to have rushed it so no surprise there).

Having seen how much of a difference watching Darabont's The Mist in B&W makes compared to the same film in colour, I'm looking forward to seeing how Fury Road plays when presented like this. If nothing else it'll be interesting

Harry Palmr

Just a mention for Mad Max 1978 on ITV tonight if you have ITV.

thegreengoblin

Looks like the next one is a Furiosa prequel. Will this even have Mad Max in the title?!

http://www.indiewire.com/2016/09/mad-max-the-wasteland-prequel-charlize-theron-george-miller-1201727891/

More detail and cautious speculation here:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/mad-max-fury-road-prequel-reportedly-in-pre-production-with-charlize-theron-a7315126.html

BuilderPlumber

thegreengoblin wrote: »

Looks like the next one is a Furiosa prequel. Will this even have Mad Max in the title?!

http://www.indiewire.com/2016/09/mad-max-the-wasteland-prequel-charlize-theron-george-miller-1201727891/

More detail and cautious speculation here:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/mad-max-fury-road-prequel-reportedly-in-pre-production-with-charlize-theron-a7315126.html

Would this be more of a Mad Max spinoff than a Mad Max film? Or would it be 2 films in one based on the Furiosa and Max backstories of the comics? Or 2 separate films, one about Furiosa and the other one being Mad Max 5?

One thing I would like to see explored more is the period in Max's life around the time of the first film. Set immediately after Max's revenge against the Toecutter, it could perhaps deal with the fall of society (clips and news reports showing regional wars, then global wars, then nuclear war and society in chaos could be shown throughout the film. To add to things perhaps clips of Immortan Joe and Humungus could be shown, and possibly Aunty Entity too). Max's main villains to make it interesting could be ex cops that were his friend, perhaps Charlie and Roop. Perhaps Immortan Joe is the new leader of Australia and uses the ex cops to control and bully people. Have Max coming into conflict with these at first for personal reasons and in the end saving a group of people terrorised by the baddies as we have seen in previous films.

You could have scenes indicating significant endings of society as we know it. Perhaps Max in a pub or restaurant that closes for the last time when he is there, perhaps a scene where money is no longer used and barter coming into being (Aunty Entity would be perfect in this scene). The film would begin in a normal world on the brink of collapse and would end in the world we know of in the Mad Max sequels.

Fysh

I've never gotten the feeling that Miller's particularly interested in the specific details of how civilisation collapses in the Mad Max universe, and for me at least that makes them better - I think it suits the folk legend aspect of Max as a character and also means each person can imagine their own version of what happens, whereas getting into too much detail (with significant risk of going full-on into continuity porn mode) would be unlikely to benefit any film narrative whose focus wasn't explicitly retreading old ground (and Fury Road suggests Miller is more interested in looking forwards than backwards).

BMMachine

no prequels. you keep moving forward

BuilderPlumber

Fysh wrote: »

I've never gotten the feeling that Miller's particularly interested in the specific details of how civilisation collapses in the Mad Max universe, and for me at least that makes them better - I think it suits the folk legend aspect of Max as a character and also means each person can imagine their own version of what happens, whereas getting into too much detail (with significant risk of going full-on into continuity porn mode) would be unlikely to benefit any film narrative whose focus wasn't explicitly retreading old ground (and Fury Road suggests Miller is more interested in looking forwards than backwards).

Essentially he has to keep things vague and this makes it more interesting I agree. Of course we can guess and fill in the blanks but essentially Miller has it set up to be flexible and not time specific. Just like The Terminator overcame the issue of dates with what happened to be considered one possible future, Mad Max mentions no dates at all. When one watches that first film, it is always a few years from now.

We can presume that oil related conflicts much like what we see now is what started things down that road and Mad Max 1 is of our current time. The sequels are after these wars first over oil and then water get totally out of control and see the fall of governments and the rise of militias, biker gangs and warlords. The comics recall a lot of the story as does the intro to the second and fourth film, along with the ceremony of the children in the third. We know there was a nuclear war and we can guess who the warrior tribes were.

I still think a Mad Max set directly after the first fill would be cool. Again it does not have to reveal all the reasons why the world collapsed and still hold a lot of the mystery but we could maybe see the breakdown of society and how it affected people with some cops going bad and Max struggling to cope with the aftermath of his family's murder and he finding redemption in helping others from a threat posed by his ex cop friends.

BuilderPlumber

BMMachine wrote: »

no prequels. you keep moving forward

I have a feeling that there will be a few false stops and starts and rumours before the REAL Mad Max 5 is settled on. The most probable option would be a film similar to Fury Road. The tried and trusted in other words and what one comes to expect from a Mad Max movie.

As a fan of the franchise, I would enjoy other types of films and enjoy the first film as much as its sequels and I can also appreciate its difference. Others though will be coming at this from a Fury Road perspective and have not seen any of the first 3.

A film set after Mad Max 1 or even before it would appeal to me but not to the person who wants the world we have in Fury Road. Perhaps a film with Furiosa and no Max would be risky too. My predictions will be something quite similar to Fury Road maybe with some Thunderdome-inspired fight as well a la the comics.

Opting for a film set before Mad Max 1 would be set in the present day or there abouts. Perhaps it could tell the story of the Night Rider. The risk here is the film may come across as more Dirty Harry than Mad Max with Max taking down a gang of drug dealing bikers and doing the best he can with scarce resources and could just come across as a sort of a remake of Stallone's Cobra.

I think though prequels or reboots are risky. Some can be excellent such as Batman Begins or Casino Royale. Others have failed. Mad Max works best going forward and maybe filling in too much of the details of what drove the characters we see across all four films to be what they are would ruin those 4 films' mystery elements.

BMMachine

im a massive Mad Max fan myself, have been since I was a kid and tbh, I dont really have an interest in going back to Max 1 and that world. Its been done, especially in other dystopian films and I dont really see much point in going back to stuff we know. Like if you look at the world in 1 - 4 it goes Decay, Chaos, Order, Civilisation. In a way I want to see whats next, stretch out a bit further.

BuilderPlumber

BMMachine wrote: »

im a massive Mad Max fan myself, have been since I was a kid and tbh, I dont really have an interest in going back to Max 1 and that world. Its been done, especially in other dystopian films and I dont really see much point in going back to stuff we know. Like if you look at the world in 1 - 4 it goes Decay, Chaos, Order, Civilisation. In a way I want to see whats next, stretch out a bit further.

The world of the first film I guess is not all that different to our own. Perhaps this world - the rise of crime in the backdrop of decaying society in both economic and moral ways - has indeed been explored in detail in other films and series I like such as Love/Hate, Robocop, Breaking Bad and Dirty Harry. Then having a Mad Max film about the actual war that ended society would risk turning it into just a regular war movie. And besides, this was done in Terminator anyway.

I like the analysis of decay, chaos, order and civilisation you give. A major theme in the last 3 films is of people remembering or longing for a better world. The green place if you like. It is strongly implied that such a place actually exists in the second film and that's where the Feral Kid went to. It implies from his narrative that things did improve for him and the others when they reached their destination. Clearly from the brochure about it, it was on the coast and we can assume that things were not totally destroyed during this film's era.

The third film saw a group of children who either had vague knowledge or handed down knowledge of a better time. Unlike the second film, we get to see the actual place where Savannah and her friends end up: a dusty and ruined Sydney. Likewise, Furiosa in the 4th ends up in her green place only to see it is ruined. Places like Bartertown and the Citadel prove to be the places of hope in both films.

Where should the next Mad Max go if it is as I predict going to be a followon rather than a prequel? Virtually all fans be they casual or dedicated would be pleased with another film like Fury Road. Perhaps the next place to go would be a clash between good and bad civilisations with the good being Furiosa's Citadel and the bad one of the other towns out there. We have assumed that civilisations like Humungus, the community with the oil refinery in Mad Max 2, Bartertown, Savannah and her tribe's place, the Citadel, Gastown and the Bullet Farm are all examples of places out there many often coexisting. A clash between 2 major powers with Max thrown into the middle of it may well be the next place to go.

rockatansky

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Would this be more of a Mad Max spinoff than a Mad Max film?

Surely if there's any truth to the mentioned articles then this has to be the case. Any concerns (albeit slight) that fans may have had about replacing Mel Gibson with Tom Hardy were put to be quite early on at the beginning of Fury Road. I can't see how going forward without Hardy or even the Max character would happen.

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

One thing I would like to see explored more is the period in Max's life around the time of the first film. Set immediately after Max's revenge against the Toecutter, it could perhaps deal with the fall of society (clips and news reports showing regional wars, then global wars, then nuclear war and society in chaos could be shown throughout the film.

Sounds great to be honest, would love to see it go direction. More than likely Miller will continue were he left off though.

BuilderPlumber

rockatansky wrote: »

Surely if there's any truth to the mentioned articles then this has to be the case. Any concerns (albeit slight) that fans may have had about replacing Mel Gibson with Tom Hardy were put to be quite early on at the beginning of Fury Road. I can't see how going forward without Hardy or even the Max character would happen.

Sounds great to be honest, would love to see it go direction. More than likely Miller will continue were he left off though.

I'd say the will continue with what happens after Fury Road and play it safe with a similar film. A separate spinoff film may or may not materialise. These tend to be quite risky and may not take on and I remember talks of a similar James Bond spinoff film that was going to focus on a female character and it did not get made.

Jan_de_Bakker

This great cinema near me - is showing Mad Max fury road in Black + White

http://www.phenomena-experience.com/evento/721/.html

I know it's a longshot posting here, but if you are in the city that weekend - go see it.

Sabre0001

Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »

This great cinema near me - is showing Mad Max fury road in Black + White

http://www.phenomena-experience.com/evento/721/.html

I know it's a longshot posting here, but if you are in the city that weekend - go see it.

Well, I do need a holiday