Man Utd v CSKA Moscow

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Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic, Ji-sung Park and Ryan Giggs will definitely miss Tuesday's Champions League tie with CSKA Moscow, while Dimitar Berbatov is a doubt after suffering a kick on the knee-cap in United's weekend win.

Wayne Rooney's involvement is also unclear after wife Coleen gave birth to the couple's first child on Monday. However, it's not all bad news: Darren Fletcher is definitely back having recovered from an injury picked up on international duty last month.

"Darren was a substitute on Saturday and will play on Tuesday," the boss told media at his pre-match press conference.

"I think most people recognise Fletcher as a big-game player, but we’ve been aware of that for quite a while. He's been missed in some key games recently so it will be good to have him back."

Sir Alex had less reason to smile about some of his other stars. Rio Ferdinand, he says, needs to rest, while Ji-sung Park won't appear on the pitch for at least two weeks.

"Rio has a calf injury and they can be troubleseome," the boss said. "If you don’t rest and give it the proper treatment then you can end up in the situation we’ve been in where you’re playing players in games when they’re not 100 per cent fit. He’s doing some good work and hopefully we’ll see improvement [before our game against Chelsea on Sunday].

"Ji [trained this morning but he] is still in recovery and won’t be involved tomorrow. We’re going to give him two weeks to develop his physical side. He’s had too many small injuries coming back from internationals so he really needs to do some core work. That’s what he’ll do over the next two weeks."

Mikeyt086

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Van Der Sar
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Valencia-Fletcher-Scholes-Nani

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Owen-Macheda

Would be the team i put out. Draw would be ideal, win would be exellent.

JerryHandbag

Jaysus...a lot of injuries/possible unavailables there. Still, great to have Fletcher back, a narrow win I'd say.

MagicMarker

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

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Van Der Sar
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Owen-Macheda

Would be the team i put out. Draw would be ideal, win would be exellent.

I'd say he'll go 4-5-1, but in this case I'd swap Macheda with Wellbeck.

Why have you left Evra out? Is he injured?

Mikeyt086

MagicMarker wrote: »

I'd swap Macheda with Wellbeck.

Why have you left Evra out? Is he injured?

Welbeck is injured. I left Evra out because he shouldnt be risked ahead of Chelsea on Sunday and Fabio was OUTSTANDING against CSKA last time out.

Nalz

I like that lineout too...hopefully it will be that one or close to it

Headshot

important question is should scholes play tomorrow or against chelsea

goddevil

Headshot wrote: »

important question is should scholes play tomorrow or against chelsea

Considering the way Scholesy destroyed Chelsea last season, we'd definitely need him against Chelsea. Especially since Giggsy may not recover in time for the match

Mitch Connor

Headshot wrote: »

important question is should scholes play tomorrow or against chelsea

I'd be hoping Fletcher and Anderson start vs Chelsea. If we play 451 vs Chelsea I'd put scholes in there, but if it is 442 he doesn't start imo. We need the energy Fletcher and Anderson would bring. We're gonna have a horrid time in midfield regardless, but we need the pace and hassling of Ando and Fletcher vs Chelsea.

As for tomorrow, I would guess it will be a low enough tempo game, and given that there will be 4 full days rest between CSKA and Chelsea, I wouldn't say there should be any issues with burnout from playing guys tomorrow and Sunday

goddevil wrote: »

Considering the way Scholesy destroyed Chelsea last season, we'd definitely need him against Chelsea. Especially since Giggsy may not recover in time for the match

Chelsea are a completely different prospect in comparison to the games last season. Also, i reckon it is at least debatable whether he dominated Chelsea in a 1-1 draw and that he only played 20 passes in 90 minutes. (100% completion)

RasTa

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Chelsea are a completely different prospect in comparison to the games last season. Also, i reckon it is at least debatable whether he dominated Chelsea in a 1-1 draw and that he only played 20 passes in 90 minutes. (100% completion)

What game was that? Was it not 3-0 at home and 2-1 away?

The_Kew_Tour

As far as im aware a draw will make sure we get to secod round tomorrow night

Mitch Connor

RasTa wrote: »

What game was that? Was it not 3-0 at home and 2-1 away?

Nope - 3-0 at home (with Giggs and Fletcher in midfield, no appearance from Scholes) and 1-1 away.

Mitch Connor

adrian280582 wrote: »

As far as im aware a draw will make sure we get to secod round tomorrow night

Draw tomorrow and we are certain of 2nd place at worst. Draw Wolfsburg away after that and we finish first in the group.

PHB

I think it should be youth teams in the group stages from here on. We've qualified and finished first effectively with one more win, and we'll get that versus Besiktas. Let the youngsters get a run out and let our boys rest. Only reason Fletcher should start is for match practice.

Fall_Guy

Mitch Connor wrote: »

i reckon it is at least debatable whether he dominated Chelsea in a 1-1 draw and that he only played 20 passes in 90 minutes. (100% completion)

Jesus, only 20 passes in the whole game! For a midfielder that seems like very little. I know its in a completely different sort of game, but I remember a stat flashing up around the hour mark at the weekend and Anderson had completed 51 of 56 passes attempted in the Blackburn game at that point. Chelsea must have had a LOT of the ball for Scholes to make so few passes.

With regards tomorrow's game, is Obertan available for selection? I don't think it would do him any harm to get another game under his belt, he looks like a potential bargain.

Spud83

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Foster

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Neville---Brown----Evans---Fabio
Obertan---Fletcher--Scholes-Nani

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Owen----Macheda

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Should be enough to get a draw which will be perfectly acceptable result considering our previous results and the games left.

No need to risk O'Shea and Evra would like to make sure our first choice full backs are fit for Sunday. Same for VDS. Evans and Brown probably need game time.

Hopefuly Giggs and Valencia will start on Sunday so they sit out and Obertan and Nani come/stay in.

Anderson and Fletcher hopefully start on Sunday. Fletcher gets 60 for fitness. Scholes starts, while Carrick will get 30 for Fletcher.

Strikers. Owen starts for me regardless of who is fit or available. If Rooney wants to play he plays needs the game time IMO.

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ahh **** it anyway before I head off I looked up the tv guide and guess who has the utd match

bloody TV3 :mad:

I want an Eamo rant

S.M.B.

Fall_Guy wrote: »

With regards tomorrow's game, is Obertan available for selection? I don't think it would do him any harm to get another game under his belt, he looks like a potential bargain.

Yeah, I remember it being odd that Obertan was registered for the CL group games while Tosic wasn't.

JPA

Headshot wrote: »

ahh **** it anyway before I head off I looked up the tv guide and guess who has the utd match

bloody TV3 :mad:

I want an Eamo rant

And Sky Sports.

Liam O

Headshot wrote: »

ahh **** it anyway before I head off I looked up the tv guide and guess who has the utd match

bloody TV3 :mad:

I want an Eamo rant

oh I'm sure there'll be a serious rant on Wednesday. Liverpool on RTE right?

Kev_ps3

Not sure whether I will watch this or the AC Real match. This will prob be boring..

cournioni

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Not sure whether I will watch this or the AC Real match. This will prob be boring..

Do you support United?! :eek:

Mitch Connor

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Not sure whether I will watch this or the AC Real match. This will prob be boring..

United match all the way for me.

Though with multiscreen and that stuff on Sky digital, keeping an eye on the other games is easy enough.

Kev_ps3

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

Do you support United?! :eek:

yea

cournioni

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

yea

And you are contemplating watching another match ahead of the United one?

Kev_ps3

PORNAPSTER wrote: »

And you are contemplating watching another match ahead of the United one?

yea

pierrot

Looking forward to see a bit of Akinfeev, if he plays in goal for the Russian side. Him or Neuer next summer, looks like.

Mitch Connor

pierrot wrote: »

Looking forward to see a bit of Akinfeev, if he plays in goal for the Russian side. Him or Neuer next summer, looks like.

Wouldn't discount Adler.

Talented young keeper who really REALLY wants to play for United. Neuer seems more likely though, based on current internet rumblings.

cournioni

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

yea

Now I know why LOI supporters give PL supporters so much hassle on here... :rolleyes:

Mikeyt086

AC Milan v Real Madrid will probably be a far better game, but i am really looking forward to seeing our fringe players get a chance, particularily Obertan.

Boggles

Watch both, simply..

pierrot

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Wouldn't discount Adler.

Talented young keeper who really REALLY wants to play for United. Neuer seems more likely though, based on current internet rumblings.

you're right, and Adler's played for the national team already.

Wonder will that kid Dazogoev (sp??) be playing for CSKA, Chelsea expressed an interest earlier in the year.

Hopefully we can play with a bit of pace up front, them twins look cumbersome at the back.

nicklauski

I might chance the sky player on the Xbox to watch this tonight. TV3's reception in my are is crap, failing that I'll have to watch a stream.

I think if United put out (nearly) the same team as the Barnsely game, I'd be happy enough with a draw.

JP Liz

1 - 0 to MU

Johner

goddevil wrote: »

Considering the way Scholesy destroyed Chelsea last season, we'd definitely need him against Chelsea. Especially since Giggsy may not recover in time for the match

When was this

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Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Not sure whether I will watch this or the AC Real match. This will prob be boring..

Or you could be a true United supporter and watch the United game live and the highlights of the AC v Real match.

FutureGuy

Guys will there be highlights of the game later this evening anywhere?

goddevil

Johner wrote: »

When was this

Sorry...My bad..

Hank Scorpio

FutureGuy wrote: »

Guys will there be highlights of the game later this evening anywhere?

101greatgoals.com usually have every single game , might not be highlights but definately every goal, although usually they have extended highlights aswell

CR 7

FutureGuy wrote: »

Guys will there be highlights of the game later this evening anywhere?

Listening to what nuxxx said is probably your safest option.

Fall_Guy

goddevil wrote: »

January. Ask one Mr.Scholari

Fletcher and giggs were united's midfield pairing that day.

Mitch Connor

goddevil wrote: »

January. Ask one Mr.Scholari

We've been through this in this thread - the poster was wrong. Scholes played in the 1-1 draw last season (and didn't dominate it imo) He didn't even come on as a sub vs Chelsea in the 3-0 game at OT. Giggs and Fletcher did dominate that game, but then that game will have no bearing on Sunday - Chelsea are a completely different prospect now.

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scholes and fletch starting and kiko and owen up front

Headshot

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

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Van Der Sar
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Valencia-Fletcher-Scholes-Nani

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Owen-Macheda

Would be the team i put out. Draw would be ideal, win would be exellent.

very close

Nev stating

Mitch Connor

Headshot wrote: »

scholes and fletch starting and kiko and owen up front

VDS

Neville
Brown
Evans
Fabio

Valencia
Scholes
Fletcher
Nani

Macheda
Owen

Headshot

Mitch Connor wrote: »

VDS

Neville
Brown
Evans
Fabio

Valencia
Scholes
Fletcher
Nani

Macheda
Owen

Rooney on the bench

Mitch Connor

Headshot wrote: »

Rooney on the bench

As is Obertan. Surprised Rooney is on the bench to be honest.

Would have thought starting or absent. If he is available, he should be playing, he needs to get form and fitness back.

Mitch Connor

Substitutes

* 29 Tomasz Kuszczak
* 3 Patrice Evra
* 8 Anderson
* 10 Wayne Rooney
* 22 John O'Shea
* 26 Gabriel Obertan
* 28 Darron Gibson

Mikeyt086

Headshot wrote: »

very close

Nev stating

Bah! I should have seen that coming. :P

Obviously im happy with that team... lol

Headshot

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Substitutes

* 29 Tomasz Kuszczak
* 3 Patrice Evra
* 8 Anderson
* 10 Wayne Rooney
* 22 John O'Shea
* 26 Gabriel Obertan
* 28 Darron Gibson

:eek:

is foster injured ?

Mitch Connor

Headshot wrote: »

:eek:

is foster injured ?

haven't heard that he is, but it is not really unusual for Fergie to swap them about. Need to keep PiG involved to be honest.