308 semi auto

Hibrion

I wouldn't mind getting a go at one of these driven boar hunts. I'd there's a hefty price tag attached to such a trip??

rrpc

PJ Hunter wrote: »

According to the “Small Arms Survey,” a Geneva-based non-governmental organisation, the average number of firearms per 100 people is 46 in Finland, 36 in Cyprus, and 32 in Sweden. These are often used for hunting. In contrast it’s 9 in Estonia and Ireland, 3 in the Netherlands and 1 in Poland.
In the "United States" the figure is 90 guns per 100 people.

http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSL2834893820070828

I'd have to question those figures. Either our population has dropped to two and a half million or the number of firearms has risen to 360,000 :eek:

Not the first time those people have been wrong.

Bananaman

Considering it's the 'small arms' survey lets assume it's handguns they are referring to.

Our esteemed Colleagues in the Dail have told us there are (were) 1800 licensed handguns in Ireland

We have a population of c. 4,000,000 (ed?)

That means we have one handgun for every 2222.22 people which is approximately

0.045 handguns for every 100 people

That a lot less than

9 for every 100 people.

(They are out by 20,000% - slight exaggeration.


B'Man

CJhaughey

Bananaman wrote: »

Considering it's the 'small arms' survey lets assume it's handguns they are referring to.

Our esteemed Colleagues in the Dail have told us there are (were) 1800 licensed handguns in Ireland

We have a population of c. 4,000,000 (ed?)

That means we have one handgun for every 2222.22 people which is approximately

0.045 handguns for every 100 people

That a lot less than

9 for every 100 people.

(They are out by 20,000% - slight exaggeration.


B'Man

Small arms are anything below .50 cal. Rifles, pistols etc.

PJ Hunter

rrpc wrote: »

I'd have to question those figures. Either our population has dropped to two and a half million or the number of firearms has risen to 360,000 :eek:

Not the first time those people have been wrong.

x 2.5
115 in Finland, 90 in Cyprus, and 80 in Sweden. These are often used for hunting. In contrast it’s 22.5 in Estonia and Ireland, 75 in the Netherlands and 2.5 in Poland.

In the "United States" the figure is :eek: guns per 100 people.

rrpc

PJ Hunter wrote: »

x 2.5
115 in Finland, 90 in Cyprus, and 80 in Sweden. These are often used for hunting. In contrast it’s 22.5 in Estonia and Ireland, 75 in the Netherlands and 2.5 in Poland.

In the "United States" the figure is :eek: guns per 100 people.

That report is two years old and already has had one email from me . The figures for UK and Ireland are wrong as they are based on licence numbers which as a comparison is apples and oranges.

UK doesn't licence airguns, we do. UK has one person one licence, we have one firearm, one licence.

It's estimated that there are over eight million airguns in the UK, all off licence.

BornToKill

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

I had the pleasure and privilige of viewing and handling one of our members on boards here

Hah hah Can you tell us which one?

rrpc

BornToKill wrote: »

Hah hah Can you tell us which one?

Splutter...coffee in keyboard damn!

Grizzly 45

Perverted minds the both of Ye!:D

"In the "United States" the figure is guns per 100 people."

Now courtsey of Obamalama it is somthing like 200million plus and climbing.That is appx four guns for every member of the US armed services .From cheif of staff down to the latest recruit.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

rrpc wrote: »

All semi-auto rifles above .22 calibre are restricted. People here should know better

I have one firearm, I do not know the laws and regulations to do with every other firearm as it has nothing to do with me. I only know of what I hear from friends and family and on here, about the other types of firearms.

Grizzly 45

Sparks wrote: »

You know, even I have trouble faulting the Powers That Be for looking at an MP5 and thinking it's not really a hunting or sporting firearm.

Careful there on definations Sparks!That kind of lassiezfaire attitude has got us into our prediciment here.After all somone has said 9mm pistols have no "Sporting use."

Hence the push from the EU to not turn a blind eye to it...

Except when it suits individual EU state member foriegn policies.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.

Well, it does - just not outside the EU.
But feck it, you have to start somewhere

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But dont upset the Russian Bear ,who is busily flogging Aks and whatnot to anyone with the Euros.Ask any Mexican drug cartel or Russian Mafika in Berlin,wether this is a major impediment to kitting up..:rolleyes:..
It's just a usual go for the easy options feelgood by people who have no clue how to deal with a multi Billion dollar product.Fourth behind food,oil and drugs.:rolleyes:

Not so much really, as they were careful with their definitions.

REALLLLLyyyyy????How is "semi automatic firearms with military applications,features or potential military applications" Very careful???? That could imply a semi auto shotgun is a military firearm,even if it was never concieved as one.Even worse.An air rifle could fall into that category if it had certain features.

Again, you're mixing up the EU and its member states. The way the europass is treated here and in the UK is akin to how we still have VRT and do other things that break EU directives.

Nah!! No kidding??:rolleyes::rolleyes: Ergo,as I said in Theory....It should work here,but with our a la carte EU membership.....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Grizzly 45

bunny shooter wrote: »

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

And we wonder why they compare here to US :rolleyes:

And as you refuse to post reason/s for a s/a 308 being more suitable than a b/a I presume you don't have any reasonable ones

Oh I have plenty of reasonable onesBS. BUT I AM NOT GOING TO POST THEM HERE ON AN OPEN FORUM!!! THIRD TIME!!!! There might be people out there applying for semi rifles who might have some of my good reasons on their applications,so I am having a bit of consideration for them in not giving the DOJ and/or Gardai Cheif Supers grist for their mills to be able to formulate refusals to their good reasons because they read here on Boards what are good reasons! I replied and refused to reply nicely to this stupid question twice, in this thread and if you think you are going to get a rise or answer out of me by this juvenile line of arguement.You are badly mistaken. :mad::mad::mad: Grow UP FFS!!

4gun

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

bunny shooter wrote: »

Oh I have plenty of reasonable onesBS. BUT I AM NOT GOING TO POST THEM HERE ON AN OPEN FORUM!!! THIRD TIME!!!! There might be people out there applying for semi rifles who might have some of my good reasons on their applications,so I am having a bit of consideration for them in not giving the DOJ and/or Gardai Cheif Supers grist for their mills to be able to formulate refusals to their good reasons because they read here on Boards what are good reasons! I replied and refused to reply nicely to this stupid question twice, in this thread and if you think you are going to get a rise or answer out of me by this juvenile line of arguement.You are badly mistaken. :mad::mad::mad: Grow UP FFS!!

pm would be nice:D;)

bunny shooter

It wasn't me! wrote: »

For driven hunting abroad, a semi-auto would be ideal. I'll take a Sauer 303 in .338 Win Mag for boar, please.

From discussions with people who do this type of shooting s/a is the last thing they want :eek: Possibility of a jam concerns them

bunny shooter

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

bunny shooter wrote: »

Oh I have plenty of reasonable onesBS. BUT I AM NOT GOING TO POST THEM HERE ON AN OPEN FORUM!!! THIRD TIME!!!! There might be people out there applying for semi rifles who might have some of my good reasons on their applications,so I am having a bit of consideration for them in not giving the DOJ and/or Gardai Cheif Supers grist for their mills to be able to formulate refusals to their good reasons because they read here on Boards what are good reasons! I replied and refused to reply nicely to this stupid question twice, in this thread and if you think you are going to get a rise or answer out of me by this juvenile line of arguement.You are badly mistaken. :mad::mad::mad: Grow UP FFS!!

And said powers that be have 3 months to come with a reason/s to refuse to accept these good reasons. They will have plenty of time to check Boards.ie and lots of other sites too :P

Grizzly 45

By the Who.;)
Look guys,Iam proably going to pee off alot of people here with this post,but I have no intention doing this deliberatly.
Simply put,I am not going to post my good reasons for owning a semi either publicly,for the reasons I mentioned in the last post or privately for pretty much the same reasons .END OF!
Not casting asperations on ANYONES chacter .But do we REALLY know who the majority of us are who are posting here??? We know there are Gardai/DOJ reading here,they are also POSTING here as well.
I have confirmation of one poster and even that it is a Ban Garda as well.She hasnt been around in a long while,but her other posts and quiries on other things here on Boards,in relation to things Limerick gave her away.And enough of that as well.:cool:
There has been enough damage done to our sport,by us gabbing away here on things that maybe we shouldnt have.[Me included 100% in that:(.]So therefore I am tighting up abit on what I consider sensitive info.We have lost enough"lives" thru careless talk,and I dont want to be a part of it or people losing another type of firearm thru somthing I said here either in public or privately.
No bother talking about what is in the public domain currently on the boards,or history,or how to repair damage,or whatever.But not anymore on future stuff.Unless I have met you in the flesh,and that is appx six people here,[one a Mod] please dont ask me for this kind of info.;)

If you think this is going somwhat OTT or Grizz is going paranoid.
May I tell this story of the now restricted Shotgun SLUG ammo?It was reported that somone said in the DOJ,that they had never even HEARD of shotgun slugs until it was posted and debated here on Boards!!!And I had a most intresting chat with a Superintendant about this in his office about one of my posts on this and other Boards posts around this time last year.
.So so sorry ,no more freebies to be used against us from me....:P

Anyways c'mon if you know firearms you should be able to come up with at least six good reasons yourselves as why you would want a semi rifle.:D
Regds
Grizzly.

It wasn't me!

bunny shooter wrote: »

From discussions with people who do this type of shooting s/a is the last thing they want :eek: Possibility of a jam concerns them

Nay, that's more dangerous game where you may have to act in self defence, hence the popularity of double rifles. Semi-autos are extremely popular for continental driven hunting. Like I say, a nice Sauer 303 would be the job. The Browning BAR has long been a well loved tool for the job.

bunny shooter

Sparks wrote: »

Can't shoot in a VCRAI-style Garand match without a Garand...

You should check ot the VCRAI forum Garand style match :rolleyes:

Sparks

bunny shooter wrote: »

You should check ot the VCRAI forum Garand style match :rolleyes:

Just 'cos you want to shoot prone...

bunny shooter

Sparks wrote: »

Just 'cos you want to shoot prone...

Lurking ........... are we .............. ..............I wanna shoot ISSF really but people might think we're buddies

Sparks

That's okay bunny, everyone knows I think you're a right <snip> anyway