cost of a pedestrian crossing?

manc

I was reading in the Liffey champion this week about a pedestrian crossing that the council want to put into Leixlip at the Church, the cost of this is €80,000 but that isn't the problem. No figures are given but it seems maintaining it will be to costly.

I'm thinking to myself that €80,000 to put in a crossing is to much but the council seem ok with this, maybe I misread it and they are doing a lot more but I don't think I did.


After doing some searching on the internet these seems to be varying costs from €10,000 up. I'm sure the width of the read might increase the cost a little but hardly that much. Leixlips road is only 1 lane each way.


Maynooth is €39, 725
http://www.maynooth.org/?p=1597

Clane is €30,000
http://www.kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/CorporateAffairs/CorporateServices/Meetings/ClaneArea/2009/Minutes/MeetingTitle,18137,en.html

but you can get a crossing for a more reasonable €10,000 in Cork
http://www.corkman.ie/news/cork-county-council-struggling-to-pay-staff-1882940.html

Sligo is €15,000
http://www.sligochampion.ie/news/date-set-for-reopening-oconnell-street-but-cost-could-scupper-plan-1883483.html


I found a similar problem in the uk where they wanted £114,000
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-489962/Revealed-The-mind-boggling-114-000-build-zebra-crossing.html

Heroditas

manc wrote: »

the cost of this is €80,000 but that isn't the problem. No figures are given but it seems maintaining it will be to costly.

I'm thinking to myself that €80,000 to put in a crossing is to much but the council seem ok with this, maybe I misread it and they are doing a lot more but I don't think I did.

How the heck can it be so costly?
Stick in a few lollipop lights, paint the zebra crossing ... and errrr......

That's all that's needed. They don't need a proper set of traffic lights there.

seamus

How can it be so costly?
At a guess:

• Pay for a survey of the road
• Pay for plans/planning/drawings
• Pay for 25 people with no experience in road planning to redraft/redesign the drawings according to their personal taste/whim
• Pay to design the sequence of the lights and all surrounding traffic lights.
• Pay 25 councillors to fight about the best sequence of traffic lights
• Pay to dig up the path and insert an ramp onto the road
• Pay to insert lollipop lights at either side of the junction
• Pay to remove the lollipop lights and put in the "green man" lights that were specified on the plans
• Pay 5 people to paint two straight lines across the road over 3 months.
• Pay 10 people to remove the lines and move them 3cm down the road.
• Pay compensation to the 30 local businesses whose front door is within 500m of where the works are taking place
• Pay the ESB to hook up the lights
• Pay the ESB to flip the switch for the light
• Pay the ESB yearly for powering the lights.

Irjudge1

It does sound costly. But what is required?

Is there a requirement for barriers, tactile paving, median /refuge island, skid resistant surfacing?

If its in an urban setting is it to be constructed as a ramped crossing?

Does the power supply have to be taken from a remote location?

Im not trying to defend the cost by the way, just explaining that there may more to it than sticking up a few poles and painting the road. That is why there is such a discre[ancy between the figures quoted for other local authorities.

Heroditas

seamus wrote: »

How can it be so costly?
At a guess:

• Pay for a survey of the road
• Pay for plans/planning/drawings
• Pay for 25 people with no experience in road planning to redraft/redesign the drawings according to their personal taste/whim
• Pay to design the sequence of the lights and all surrounding traffic lights.
• Pay 25 councillors to fight about the best sequence of traffic lights
• Pay to dig up the path and insert an ramp onto the road
• Pay to insert lollipop lights at either side of the junction
• Pay to remove the lollipop lights and put in the "green man" lights that were specified on the plans
• Pay 5 people to paint two straight lines across the road over 3 months.
• Pay 10 people to remove the lines and move them 3cm down the road.
• Pay compensation to the 30 local businesses whose front door is within 500m of where the works are taking place
• Pay the ESB to hook up the lights
• Pay the ESB to flip the switch for the light
• Pay the ESB yearly for powering the lights.

I'd laugh but unfortunately you've hit the nail on the head!
However, there are no businesses or traffic lights near where they proposed to locate this particular crossing.
There is however a set of traffic lights about 300m up the road.
Can't people use them instead?

Run_to_da_hills

seamus wrote: »

How can it be so costly?
At a guess:

• Pay for a survey of the road
• Pay for plans/planning/drawings
• Pay for 25 people with no experience in road planning to redraft/redesign the drawings according to their personal taste/whim
• Pay to design the sequence of the lights and all surrounding traffic lights.
• Pay 25 councillors to fight about the best sequence of traffic lights
• Pay to dig up the path and insert an ramp onto the road
• Pay to insert lollipop lights at either side of the junction
• Pay to remove the lollipop lights and put in the "green man" lights that were specified on the plans
• Pay 5 people to paint two straight lines across the road over 3 months.
• Pay 10 people to remove the lines and move them 3cm down the road.
• Pay compensation to the 30 local businesses whose front door is within 500m of where the works are taking place
• Pay the ESB to hook up the lights
• Pay the ESB to flip the switch for the light
• Pay the ESB yearly for powering the lights.

Wow :eek:

A coin operated pedestrian crossing would subsidise this and also deter idiots from pressing the button for no reason.