Lyon v Liverpool (part one of a play in three acts) [Mod Warning Post #1 & Post #506]

Dave!

I'm also gonna go with a Liverpool win... Aurelio, Kuyt and Benny will be important.

RasTa

tok9 wrote: »

So you hope Lyon win?

Not really, draw would suffice to give yis hope.

killwill

Boggles wrote: »

Going to go for a Lyon win, think it will be high scoring, maybe 3-2.

Fans to focus more on Ronnie Whelan than Rafa and the actual game after the match.

:D:D

Handsome Bob

Boggles wrote: »

Going to go for a Lyon win, think it will be high scoring, maybe 3-2.

Fans to focus more on Ronnie Whelan than Rafa and the actual game after the match.

If we do, it will only because what Whelan says will differ deeply from reality.

SWAR

Really surprised at some of the predictions, such as people saying they can't see anything other than a Pool win and they always do it in Europe when their backs are against the wall etc etc etc. I hope to God we do manage to win, be it a scrappy nervous 1-0 or whatever. Ok, Lyon are no world beaters but neither are we at the moment and I can't remember a time when we have had so many injuries to crucial players.

I think a draw myself (1-1) with Lyon scoring first.

rossie1977

Dave! wrote: »

I'm also gonna go with a Liverpool win... Aurelio, Kuyt and Benny will be important.

aurelio didn't travel

i really cannot see how liverpool are going to win this one, they have an entire team missing with injuries and many that will be playing are carrying knocks, plus they are in their worst run of form for 50 years and lyon are at home where they rarely lose in the champions league (utd and barca at the top of their games have scraped draws there)

ROCKMAN

LYON are a good good team (ok maybe not one of the top top teams ) but they will make Liverpool work for anything they may get and may be just to good for them .(just cannot see them losing the game ) Have say that......

Tonights result depends on which Liverpool side turns up.If its the team that faced Utd two weeks ago ,a team full of commitment and heart then Liverpool have a chance.
If its the team that played in the Fulham game lack of passion , self-destructive and no heart , then it wil be a long fruitless night for Liverpool fans . IMO
For some reason I expect the latter to turn up , And Lyon to win 2-0 but only a fool would completely rule out any team that has Torres (pure class act )in it

noodler

We are out with a draw. Lets be realistic. Fiorentina will win tonight.

magma69

rossie1977 wrote: »

aurelio didn't travel

i really cannot see how liverpool are going to win this one, they have an entire team missing with injuries and many that will be playing are carrying knocks, plus they are in their worst run of form for 50 years and lyon are at home where they rarely lose in the champions league (utd and barca at the top of their games have scraped draws there)

Gonna have to agree here. I think I am being very optimistic in saying they will draw. Just cannot see them winning this game with their suspect defence.

Spud83

noodler wrote: »

We are out with a draw. Lets be realistic. Fiorentina will win tonight.

Which will leave them on 9 points.

If Liverpool Draw, and win their last two games they end up on ten points.

Meaning Fiorentina will need a win against Lyon to go through. I can't remember how the decide these things if they both end up on 10 points (i.e Fiorentina draw with Lyon) mean yas both end up on ten points.

noodler

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Which will leave them on 9 points.

If Liverpool Draw, and win their last two games they end up on ten points.

Meaning Fiorentina will need a win against Lyon to go through. I can't remember how the decide these things if they both end up on 10 points (i.e Fiorentina draw with Lyon) mean yas both end up on ten points.

Wouldn't they only need a point against Lyon if we fail to beat Fiorentina by 2 clear goals at Anfield?

Spud83

noodler wrote: »

Wouldn't they only need a point against Lyon if we fail to beat Fiorentina by 2 clear goals at Anfield?

Wrong.

Assuming yas both beat Debrecen.

if you win 2-0 at Anfield it will come down to goal difference over the entire group games.

If you win 3-1, 4-1, 5-1, then Fiorentina go through because they scored at Anfield.

If you win by three goals you go through.

If you win 1-0 then Fiorentina go through.

All very messy.

alibabba

Call me Mr Negative, but how in the name of God can people come on here and declare a convincing victory for our team tonight.
As someone has already mentioned, our form is very bad at the moment, and players are falling apart.

And you really are for the birds if you expect Voronin to win it for us, he just hasnt got it in him.

noodler

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Wrong.

Assuming yas both beat Debrecen.

if you win 2-0 at Anfield it will come down to goal difference over the entire group games.

If you win 3-1, 4-1, 5-1, then Fiorentina go through because they scored at Anfield.

If you win by three goals you go through.

If you win 1-0 then Fiorentina go through.

All very messy.

Ha, I think I preferred your post before you edited it (see below)

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Correct.

So if you draw tonight, then you need to beat Fiorentina by 2 clear goals at Anfield, and hope they draw or lose against Lyon.

Good use of the ninja edits.

Spud83

noodler wrote: »

Ha, I think I preferred your post before you edited it (see below)




Good use of the ninja edits.

LOL, yeah I thought you lost 1-0 against Fiorentina, not 2-0.

mayordenis

Reina,
Darby, Carragher, Agger, Insua
Lucas, Mascherano
Kuyt, Aquilani, Benayoun
Torres

Prufrock

Headshot wrote: »

werent lyon missing their fist choice CB's at anfield ?

One of them got a head injury while fouling Kuyt. Had to go off. Chris it was.

Liverpool to have a hard night against a good Lyon team looking to make an impression. 2-1 Lyon again.

Helix

liverpool will win this 3-1, take a bit of pressure off rafa, and then probably only get a point from blues and city

Reginald P. DuM

I'd be hopeful of a Liverpool win. Some are saying they are always are capable of getting a result when they're backs are to the wall but tonight is a little different. It's a tougher test. Lyon are a good side and there is no way in the world are they gonna sit back and play for the draw. Scored draw is the most likely result, probably 1-1. And a stay of execution for Rafa and his men. :mad:

event

LZ5by5 wrote: »

If we do, it will only because what Whelan says will differ deeply from reality.

he's the new eamonn, he will only say stuff cos he knows it will generate publicity

mormank

mayordenis wrote: »

Reina,
Darby, Carragher, Agger, Insua
Lucas, Mascherano
Kuyt, Aquilani, Benayoun
Torres

is that the team starting tonight? :eek:

~Rebel~

event wrote: »

he's the new eamonn, he will only say stuff cos he knows it will generate publicity

and cause he despises Rafa.

event

event wrote: »

he's the new eamonn, he will only say stuff cos he knows it will generate publicity

At least Dunphy can be funny.

He seems to have a massive bag of chips on his shoulder.

He slated Rafa for taking off a unfit Torres v Fulham ffs. His knowledge of football is seriously questionable.

Anyway this is all OT, sorry Mods.

C'mon the Pool, getting nervy now, Barca match on Set Ire as a warm up!!

slingerz

mormank wrote: »

is that the team starting tonight? :eek:

Well that would be a strong enough line up for Liverpool with Gerrard likely to come into Midfield for Lucas and Johnson for Darby.

The problem is that both Torres and Aqualini will fail to last the 90 mins leading them to be replaced with N'Gog and Voronin:mad:

mayordenis

slingerz wrote: »

Well that would be a strong enough line up for Liverpool with Gerrard likely to come into Midfield for Lucas and Johnson for Darby.

The problem is that both Torres and Aqualini will fail to last the 90 mins leading them to be replaced with N'Gog and Voronin:mad:

Or babeltini

slingerz

mayordenis wrote: »

Or babeltini

seeing as he cant get into the team without torres/aqualini etc being injured I think its safe to assume hes down the pecking order

event

~Rebel~ wrote: »

and cause he despises Rafa.

and cos he's a .........

not worth a banning really

mayordenis

event wrote: »

and cos he's a .........

not worth a banning really

We both know it's worth it.

Headshot

looking very much to this match, I have a feeling it could be a classic.

ghouldaddy07

Liverpool to scrape it at the end and make me some dirty money.

Morzadec

My prediction is 1-1, which all things considered would be an impressive enough result.

Not hugely confident about tonight due to the injury/fitness problems. Even if we manage to field a strong enough starting XI, some key players (e.g Aquilani, Torres) will not be able for 90 minutes.

That said, on the big European occasions we usually deliver, so I'm somewhat hopeful. But on paper we must be 2nd favourites.

mormank

no im just shocked that aquaman is starting if that is the team!!

opr

No team lineup has been released yet.

Opr

mayordenis

opr wrote: »

No team lineup has been released yet.

Opr

I'm the boss, I'm the gaffer

BREAKING LIVERPOOL TEAM NEWS
Fernando Torres starts with Andriy Voronin. Alberto Aquilani is on the bench.

Liverpool: Reina, Carragher, Agger, Kyrgiakos, Insua, Kuyt, Lucas, Mascherano, Benayoun, Voronin, Torres.


Subs: Cavalieri, Aquilani, Babel, Ngog, Spearing, Darby, Ayala.

Sully

I thought the teams were known since yesterday?

Sully

Sully wrote: »

I thought the teams were known since yesterday?

mike65

Only the match squad!

edit
Liverpool:

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Reina,
Carra, Agger, Kyrgiakos, Insua,

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Lucas, Masch
Kuyt---Voronin--- Benayoun

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Torres.

Subs: Cavalieri, Aquilani, Babel, Ngog, Spearing, Darby, Ayala.

Handsome Bob

rarnes1 wrote: »

Liverpool: Reina, Carragher, Agger, Kyrgiakos, Insua, Kuyt, Lucas, Mascherano, Benayoun, Voronin, Torres.


Subs: Cavalieri, Aquilani, Babel, Ngog, Spearing, Darby, Ayala.

Not bad, no excuse not to give it a good go anyway.

Reginald P. DuM

Voronin!! :eek:

Surely if Gog if good enough for the bench he could give an hour from the off. Bring on the long haired loon then if needs be. I'm posting this half in the hope that he'll prove me wrong.

Headshot

lyon team

Hugo Lloris
Jeremy Toulalan
Cris
Aly Cissokho
Anthony Reveillere
Kim Kallstrom
Jean Makoun
Bafetimbi Gomis
Miralem Pjanic
Lisandro López
Michel Fernandes Bastos

Govou is on the bench

mayordenis

2 goals from Voronin I say

super_furry

Ugh Voronin, I'd rather bring back Erik Meijr or Sean
Dundee

NukaCola

Would rather give Babel a start instead of Voronin

mike65

And now to suffer the wit and wisdom of the RTE Massiv....:(

Villain

0-3 to the Pool imo, easy hat-trick for Torres with that defence

mormank

im gonna predict a good open game. maybe 2-2 with aquaman coming on for the last 15 and scoring the winner gerrard style to make himself an instant legend at the club and then go on to catapult us to a league and champions league double with him stevie and torres finishing first second and third in next year's fifa world player of the year award...oh and i also predict andriy voronin to do nothing worthwhile the entire game!

Handsome Bob

mike65 wrote: »

And now to suffer the wit and wisdom of the RTE Massiv....:(

Looking forward to the musings of the ever impartial Ronnie Whelan...

EDIT Ronnie has carved out a nice place for himself, first person Bill goes to, I wonder why.

Headshot

what position is benni playing in folks ?