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Patton Flyer (mod warning post #404) SEE POST #659 ALSO

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    #782
    Conway635
    Registered Users Posts: 400 ✭✭Conway635


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    Hmmmm.....Noting the given locations of Cookie_Monster and -Chris-,is there a tactical Killiney-Cabinteely axis thing going on here ?

    This is highly suspicious and can only lead to further unease amongst Dalkey residents that they are being caught in a pincer movement......I smell Blitzkreig !!! :eek:


    I've been wondering about Cookie Monster for a long time. Judging by some of his posts, I suspect he works in the same building as me, and I've taken to eyeing my colleagues suspiciously for signs of public transport usage combined with excessive cookie consumption!

    C635


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    #783
    n97 mini
    Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    -Chris- wrote: »
    Why is my name in inverted commas? Do you think I'm not a real Chris or something?? :p

    I thought the real -Chris- always posted in bold:p


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    #784
    -Chris-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    If I'm posting in bold, it means you have been.

    :D

    (courtesy of Wibbs)


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    #785
    n97 mini
    Registered Users Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    -Chris- wrote: »
    If I'm posting in bold, it means you have been.

    :D

    (courtesy of Wibbs)

    Fightin' talk ;)


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    #786
    Rock Steady Edy
    Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭Rock Steady Edy


    I see Mr Patton's standing for election in Dun Laoghaire ...


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    #787
    -Chris-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭-Chris-


    I heard he's already attending the dail and calling himself a TD. He's just waiting for the paperwork to come through.


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    #788
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users Posts: 13,119 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Rock Steady Edy wrote: »
    I see Mr Patton's standing for election in Dun Laoghaire ...

    On what "ticket"?


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    #789
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,499 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Losty Dublin wrote: »
    On what "ticket"?

    on the same basis as running for councillor, The Patton Flyer is a national issue you know. :rolleyes: :D


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    #790
    schemingbohemia
    Registered Users Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭schemingbohemia


    Losty Dublin wrote: »
    On what "ticket"?

    Well it's not a ticket, you see, it's membership of a private club that allows you access to a bus service to the airport but you're not definitely not paying for the journey to the airport!

    I saw him the other day in a large Taxi-like VW Sharan or something like that with Patton Flyer on the side, was just wondering if he was copying some of the taxi-drivers who used to poach his customers???


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    #791
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,499 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    schemingbohemia wrote: »
    I saw him the other day in a large Taxi-like VW Sharan or something like that with Patton Flyer on the side, was just wondering if he was copying some of the taxi-drivers who used to poach his customers???

    He's had a merc Vito with that on the side for a good few years. Used to see it around Dalkey when he was down to check on the buses/ have a pint / etc.


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    #792
    schemingbohemia
    Registered Users Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭schemingbohemia


    Ah my mistake so, hadn't seen it before.


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    #793
    smackyB
    Registered Users Posts: 749 ✭✭✭smackyB


    He hasn't received a single vote to date on the Boards poll. Obviously DalkeyResident hasn't voted yet :D


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    #794
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,499 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    bumpty bump

    what ol Trev up to these days?

    I noticed that two coach parked up along Dalkey Park. Here

    Has he just abandoned them, blocking up a residential area of do they get used for anything these days?


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    #795
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    bumpty bump

    what ol Trev up to these days?

    I noticed that two coach parked up along Dalkey Park. Here

    Has he just abandoned them, blocking up a residential area of do they get used for anything these days?

    Ah come on now Cookie,these things take time.....just relax with a nice cool Bulmers......:D


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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    #796
    Rock Steady Edy
    Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭Rock Steady Edy


    I saw at least one of his old coaches parked in the same position about 6 weeks ago. You might be a bit annoyed if you lived round there and there was no prospect of them being moved anytime soon...

    Still... maybe he's going to reinstate his old route as per the pre-Christmas speculation?


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    #797
    patrickbrophy18
    Registered Users Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭patrickbrophy18


    Rock Steady Edy wrote: »
    I saw at least one of his old coaches parked in the same position about 6 weeks ago. You might be a bit annoyed if you lived round there and there was no prospect of them being moved anytime soon...

    Still... maybe he's going to reinstate his old route as per the pre-Christmas speculation?

    That IS/WAS pure speculation. It was just a quote from an article in the Dalkey Community Council Newsletter which I had referenced. Since then, I was talking to Patton who told me (First-hand?:D) that it was pure speculation. Nevertheless, The Patton Flyer website is still on the air with the same old message that was there back in September. I still don't know why the former fleet of the Flyer have been idling in the same place for the last few months. I'm beginning to think that it is a shrine to commemorate the former Dalkey-Dublin Airport service:D.:rolleyes:


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    #798
    devnull
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    It was also mentioned on his facebook page by a few of his customers that he may be coming back.


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    #799
    trad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭trad


    Just passed the Flyers yesterday parked up in Dalkey. Both have been vandalised, one has a side window broken, both covered in grafitti. Only a matter of time 'till something more serious happens them.


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    #800
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,499 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    trad wrote: »
    Just passed the Flyers yesterday parked up in Dalkey. Both have been vandalised, one has a side window broken, both covered in grafitti. Only a matter of time 'till something more serious happens them.

    maybe the council will dispose of them as they are clearly abandoned and a fire risk...


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    #801
    trad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭trad


    They still have to be worth some money. Simular coaches are for sale (albeit with lower mileage and better condition) from €30k upwards.


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    #802
    schemingbohemia
    Registered Users Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭schemingbohemia


    Patton and Dualway buses both the subject of vandalism in the same weekend? Very odd.


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    #803
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,499 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    schemingbohemia wrote: »
    Patton and Dualway buses both the subject of vandalism in the same weekend? Very odd.

    one of those coaches has had a window smashed in for months. It was parked across 4-5 parking spot on the Killiney hill Road just up from the Castle hotel weeks ago. Passed it on the bike and noticed the cracked / smashed side window.


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    #804
    Losty Dublin
    Registered Users Posts: 13,119 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    maybe the council will dispose of them as they are clearly abandoned and a fire risk...

    I though that only worked if and when a car can't be reasonably be returned to it's owner. If these coaches have Patton Flyer marked all over them, it won't be too hard to find their owner; given the cost of same I doubt if they are actually abandoned.


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    #805
    Vic_08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    maybe the council will dispose of them as they are clearly abandoned and a fire risk...

    As long as they are taxed and legally parked the council have no business going near them, they ar no more "clearly abandoned" than any other vehicle parked on a public road.

    I am no fan of Patton but he has as much right to litter public roads with his coaches as anyone else does with their vehicles as long as he stays within the law, although he does have form in this regard unless you can prove he has broken parking or vehicle law in this regard (are the coaches taxed?) then I don't see the problem.

    As for vandalism or fire risk, this is down to the propensity of other people to break the law by damaging private property and it is those people who nead dealing with not Trev. Unfortunately in this scumbag-filled country you cannot park buses even in relatively quiet areas without them being targeted by vandals, as proved by Dualway even fenced-off compounds are not safe. I am surprised that Patton does not appear to have any facility to store his buses as even the smallest operators know that it is foolish to leave expensive vandal-magnets like coaches out in the open.


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    #806
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,499 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    that was tongue in cheek but anyway given the recent crack down on commercial tax fraud you could easily argue that leaving commercial vehicles stored in a residential street does not come under commercial activity and have them removed if you really wanted to.


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    #807
    dub_commuter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭dub_commuter


    At the end of the day, Patton may well claim that because he believes he was in his belief illegally forced off the road, any damage would be caused by this fact and therefore if his case he currently is taking part in is found in his favour, he could base compensation on his vehicles suffered damaged as they were laying around as he was prevented from using them.


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    #808
    dowlingm
    Registered Users Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭dowlingm


    dub_commuter wrote: »
    At the end of the day, Patton may well claim that because he believes he was in his belief illegally forced off the road, any damage would be caused by this fact and therefore if his case he currently is taking part in is found in his favour, he could base compensation on his vehicles suffered damaged as they were laying around as he was prevented from using them.
    Care to cite any case law in support of this? I doubt you can. Not being able to use vehicles for licensed purposes is no bar to properly storing them.


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    #809
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users Posts: 24,499 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    dub_commuter wrote: »
    At the end of the day, Patton may well claim that because he believes he was in his belief illegally forced off the road, any damage would be caused by this fact and therefore if his case he currently is taking part in is found in his favour, he could base compensation on his vehicles suffered damaged as they were laying around as he was prevented from using them.

    he can believe whatever he wants, it still won't make his actions legal
    and anyway he would be due no compensation for damage as they were not properly securely stored, merely left on the roadside when any old scumbag can just wander up and do as he pleases.


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    #810
    Rock Steady Edy
    Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭Rock Steady Edy


    dub_commuter wrote: »
    At the end of the day, Patton may well claim that because he believes he was in his belief illegally forced off the road, any damage would be caused by this fact and therefore if his case he currently is taking part in is found in his favour, he could base compensation on his vehicles suffered damaged as they were laying around as he was prevented from using them.

    Presumably he has something called insurance from which he can choose to claim or not? The idea that you might claim from another body because the buses should have been on the road is an odd one. It's like denying responsibility for a car accident because you should have been somewhere else at the time.

    If I lived round there, I'd be on to the garda / council to report it, with a view to their removal, one way or another. The road where they are is a nice area, and I can't imagine the neighbours will put up with vandalised vehicles hanging around for long. It would be the same with any apparently abandoned and vandalised vehicle.


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    #811
    DalkeyResident
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33 ✭DalkeyResident


    The Patton Flyer may well return soon as Aircoach raises it's prices start on Monday.

    I'm just curious how other Dalkey residents feel aobut the prospect?


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