danny rampling - A different kind of house

brianc27

taken from another board

http://www.phoenixtrinity.co.uk/the-team/

Danny Rampling

Danny is a household name in the UK, and a world renowned DJ well respected in the music business as a youth cult visionary and a leading entrepreneur. Using his experience of the world’s most exquisite locations, he subsequently built a property portfolio on the South coast .

“When I brought the house music scene to the UK two decades ago I was at the forefront of a movement that united millions of people in a very positive way. I see parallels of this in today’s world where global challenges such as climate change are catalysing the same sense of, “we are all in this together”.

“I am excited at the new surge in global awareness and am very encouraged by the emphasis on personal responsibility. I realise the planet’s in trouble and I care deeply about our future.”

What a complete and utter fuvking prick

jtsuited

jesus fcuking christ, what an idiot.

Between him and tenaglia they really do bring stupidity to brave new heights.

acman

Surely this is a joke?

Táck

climate change is no joke. do you see al gore laughing?

Jay D

Yeah I wonder how much of the interview was left out to be fair and what is it with people on here? Pack of moany little bitches to be fair. Oh yeah let's all have a moan about something, today's topic is:

<insert topic for the boards cry babies>

Hawk Wing

He is actually a very nice guy

BaZmO*

Jay D wrote: »

what is it with people on here? Pack of moany little bitches to be fair. Oh yeah let's all have a moan about something, today's topic is:

<insert topic for the boards cry babies>

Here, here. There's some real moany little sh1ts on here at times. Christ, I'm not expecting a 1990's style E'd up circle jerk but ffs the man was just giving his opinion on something. And at the end of the day he's a bleeding hippy in his late forties so his opinion is hardly surprising.

SuprSi

Yeah I don't see what the problem is. He sounds more like a hippy who has an over-inflated ego than a prick.

Táck

tough crowd over here brian, wha

jtsuited

Well ya see here's the thing.....

when people like rampling present the climate change issue as some sort of retarded hippy love-in issue, it discredits the more articulate and less intellectually retarded activists like the aforementioned Al Gore.

The fact that he's a over-the-hill irrelevant dj just makes it all the more hilarious. Don't think anyone's pissed off. It's more of a laughing tone than genuine disgust in most reactions.

Táck

but we do agree al gore is a ****

domcq

Definitely on the harsh side...

BaZmO*

jtsuited wrote: »

Well ya see here's the thing.....

when people like rampling present the climate change issue as some sort of retarded hippy love-in issue, it discredits the more articulate and less intellectually retarded activists like the aforementioned Al Gore.

The fact that he's a over-the-hill irrelevant dj just makes it all the more hilarious. Don't think anyone's pissed off. It's more of a laughing tone than genuine disgust in most reactions.

Yeah but it's a snobby mightier than thou tone that has become so prevalent on this particular forum.

And as Jay D has said, it's quite possible that the quote was taken out of context. Personally I'd take more issue with the fact that interviewers feel the need to ask every two-bit celebrity their opinion on every from global warming to the Grimes Twins. It's hardly the "celeb's" fault that journalists publish everything they say.

jtsuited

BaZmO* wrote: »

Yeah but it's a snobby mightier than thou tone that has become so prevalent on this particular forum.

And as Jay D has said, it's quite possible that the quote was taken out of context. Personally I'd take more issue with the fact that interviewers feel the need to ask every two-bit celebrity their opinion on every from global warming to the Grimes Twins. It's hardly the "celeb's" fault that journalists publish everything they say.

i hear ya (and i'm probably a right aul snobby git).
however Rampling is a specific case of a guy who's still struggling to stay in the limelight but seems very desperate to do so.

Take for example this http://www.learnhowtobeadj.com/

Puts the whole thing in more context methinks.

dubsbhoy

I thought he was after going and shooting 5 kids on their way to school or not showing up for a gig.

As for climate change.........it won't effect me and i hate my kids and everyone elses :eek:

Porkpie

Raising awareness of climate change is a good thing, however it's done. Some are better than others. He's no Al Gore for sure, but his intentions are good. I have nothing but respect for Danny, I used to love his LGDP on Radio 1.

Why can't we all just get along?

KevIRL

Edited the thread title to something a little less agressive and confrontational

OV

Housing Project? He's hardly building homes for the needy in Africa now is he.

KevIRL

OV wrote: »

Housing Project? He's hardly building homes for the needy in Africa now is he.

fair comment. Changed again.

brianc27

KevIRL wrote: »

Edited the thread title to something a little less agressive and confrontational

fair enough, i actualy pm'd zascar myself earlier to change he title as this seemed to be turning into another post of people getting their knickers in a twist.

Zascar

"Celebrity DJ says something arsey" - shock horror!

I often think that if I was a high society celebrity I'd be quoted by the papers all over the place saying stupid things.

Way too many people are jumping on this Global Warming Bandwagon - makes my blood boil. Al Gore is a complete tool. The Global Warming movement is way more political than environmental. I could rant on this for pages...

jtsuited

Zascar wrote: »

"Celebrity DJ says something arsey" - shock horror!

I often think that if I was a high society celebrity I'd be quoted by the papers all over the place saying stupid things.

Way too many people are jumping on this Global Warming Bandwagon - makes my blood boil. Al Gore is a complete tool. The Global Warming movement is way more political than environmental. I could rant on this for pages...

Go on Zas, get stuck in!!

I actually think Gore is alright, but the rest of the movement as a whole are a bunch of idiots.

Am I the only person who genuinely doesn't give a sh1t about my children's children's children?

Zascar

Ah don't get me started mate. I'm not saying I don't believe in Global Warming, I just think that Human's are not anywhere near as responsible for it as some people say we are. I think its just so so arrogant to say that us, humans, can have detrimental effects on out huge and complex earth with a little extra CO2.

I Highly recommend everyone watches this Channel 4 Documentary:

The Great Global Warming Swindle: http://www.viddler.com/explore/micheleforan/videos/2/

Even just watch the first 5-10 minutes and you'll get good idea of what its talking about.

(also note ciritcisms though - its not 100% accurate - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle)

What pisses me off is that in tiny little Ireland, who can't be responsible for more than a tenth of a % of the CO2, the fcuing greens go bananas and now if I want a large engined car its going to cost me €1350 in tax every year. GGGGRRRRRR. Bill Cullen's little speech on that chat show was right.


Anyhoo, when i first read the OP's post, what i found funny was "When I brought the house music scene to the UK two decades ago". That's a big statement

joker77

Zascar wrote: »

Anyhoo, when i first read the OP's post, what i found funny was "When I brought the house music scene to the UK two decades ago". That's a big statement

ha ha - thought that was a little funny alright.

Completely agree about the whole swindle thing - and Al Gore p*sses me right off - he was Vice President of the most powerful, and also the most poluting, nation on the planet - WHY NOT DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT THEN!! Oh no wait, try to get elected as President, fail because of a voting scam, get depressed, grow a beard, and make a documentary. F*ck off.

jtsuited

Zascar wrote: »

I think its just so so arrogant to say that us, humans, can have detrimental effects on out huge and complex earth with a little extra CO2.

ah your whole post was good apart from this. there is good evidence that a little extra CO2 could (in theory) cause fairly significant climate change. Whether that is ACTUALLY going on is of course up for debate.

But it's not 'arrogant' to think humans could really fcuk up this planet (technically we could destroy all life on this planet in the blink of an eye - think about all those H-bombs). We could. The question is whether we are right now contributing to the extent some allege that we are.

I don't think it's arrogant to say 'there's a possibility that we're having a detrimental effect on our huge and complex earth by putting a little too much CO2 in the atmosphere'. Given what we know through the sciences like.

Scubadevils

It's a statement he has a right to make as he was part of the introduction of house music to the UK along with the likes of Oakenfold in the late 80s. If I did that I would certainly boast about it till my last breath of air!

Equally if it helps with causes he believes in so be it. Or on the flip side if it helps him in business or to earn money, why the hell not.

When I saw this topic (prior to the title edit) I really thought he did something terrible!

Edit - I should say (before I'm attacked by the youth mob) that he is widely credited as being one of the people to introduce house to the UK. I wasn't there, nor do I personally know him to 100% verify this!

jtsuited

Zascar wrote: »

What pisses me off is that in tiny little Ireland, who can't be responsible for more than a tenth of a % of the CO2, the fcuing greens go bananas and now if I want a large engined car its going to cost me €1350 in tax every year. GGGGRRRRRR.

Ah come on now Zas, you know what that's about. It's a way of introducing a sort of progressive taxation system on those that can afford it under the guise of trying to be environmentally conscious.
A fairly smart business move tbh by the government. If only they could be so fcuking smart when it came to spending money as opposed to making money.

Zascar

Fair enough. I just think that the world is a complex place and with its weather systems and atmosphere, it is constantly changing and has done for millions of years. Realistically we know very little about it and we cannot be 100% sure that extra C02 WILL have detrimental results, especially considering such conflicting research.

one important aspect to consider, As its explains very clearly in the movie above - if a scientist gets a big whack of funding to do a massive project on the possibility of global warming, a large part of his findings will come from hugely complicated mathematical computer models. In these are lots of different figures from collated data. Changing some of these figures even slightly can mean hugely different end results. So, when it comes to result time, he could conclude with "Well, not sure, it might or it might not, probably won't be much difference" where will be a percieved waste of money and no one will notice the results, OR if he can get a conclusion that says "We're all Fcuked" - which will get his name in headlines all over the world. I wonder which one most scientists are likely to aim towards?

The world is very adaptive and I just have a problem with some guys saying the ice caps are going to melt in 20/50/100 years and we're going to be plunged into another ice age. Yes lets stop polluting and yes lets take better care of our earth, but lets not get carried away with ourselves while doing it.

Zascar

Felixdhc wrote: »

It's a statement he has a right to make as he was part of the introduction of house music to the UK along with the likes of Oakenfold in the late 80s. If I did that I would certainly boast about it till my last breath of air!

Equally if it helps with causes he believes in so be it. Or on the flip side if it helps him in business or to earn money, why the hell not.

When I saw this topic (prior to the title edit) I really thought he did something terrible!

Edit - I should say (before I'm attacked by the youth mob) that he is widely credited as being one of the people to introduce house to the UK. I wasn't there, nor do I personally know him to 100% verify this!

I was not really sure but fair enough. However, he said "I" did it, like it was him alone... He could have said "I was amongst a group of people who brought House Music to the UK" - but really I'm just being pedantic. I agree he's just trying to promote his career so fair enough.

Scubadevils

Zascar wrote: »

Fair enough. I just think that the world is a complex place and with its weather systems and atmosphere, it is constantly changing and has done for millions of years. Realistically we know very little about it and we cannot be 100% sure that extra C02 WILL have detrimental results, especially considering such conflicting research.

one important aspect to consider, As its explains very clearly in the movie above - if a scientist gets a big whack of funding to do a massive project on the possibility of global warming, a large part of his findings will come from hugely complicated mathematical computer models. In these are lots of different figures from collated data. Changing some of these figures even slightly can mean hugely different end results. So, when it comes to result time, he could conclude with "Well, not sure, it might or it might not, probably won't be much difference" where will be a percieved waste of money and no one will notice the results, OR if he can get a conclusion that says "We're all Fcuked" - which will get his name in headlines all over the world. I wonder which one most scientists are likely to aim towards?

The world is very adaptive and I just have a problem with some guys saying the ice caps are going to melt in 20/50/100 years and we're going to be plunged into another ice age. Yes lets stop polluting and yes lets take better care of our earth, but lets not get carried away with ourselves while doing it.

Hmmm, David McWilliams?

Sorry to drag away from global warming to local economy but I couldn't but think of our Mr McWilliams when I read that.

Zascar

jtsuited wrote: »

Ah come on now Zas, you know what that's about. It's a way of introducing a sort of progressive taxation system on those that can afford it under the guise of trying to be environmentally conscious. A fairly smart business move tbh by the government.

If only they could be so fcuking smart when it came to spending money as opposed to making money.

True enough - I always wondered why they did not just abolish tax and put a flat rate on petrol - that way people are just going to want to buy more fuel efficient and less pollutant cars (Yes there are exceptions of course). Uk is so much cheaper

jtsuited

Zascar wrote: »

Fair enough. I just think that the world is a complex place and with its weather systems and atmosphere, it is constantly changing and has done for millions of years. Realistically we know very little about it and we cannot be 100% sure that extra C02 WILL have detrimental results, especially considering such conflicting research.

one important aspect to consider, As its explains very clearly in the movie above - if a scientist gets a big whack of funding to do a massive project on the possibility of global warming, a large part of his findings will come from hugely complicated mathematical computer models. In these are lots of different figures from collated data. Changing some of these figures even slightly can mean hugely different end results. So, when it comes to result time, he could conclude with "Well, not sure, it might or it might not, probably won't be much difference" where will be a percieved waste of money and no one will notice the results, OR if he can get a conclusion that says "We're all Fcuked" - which will get his name in headlines all over the world. I wonder which one most scientists are likely to aim towards?

The world is very adaptive and I just have a problem with some guys saying the ice caps are going to melt in 20/50/100 years and we're going to be plunged into another ice age. Yes lets stop polluting and yes lets take better care of our earth, but lets not get carried away with ourselves while doing it.

oh absolutely.
I don't think anyone with half a brain and a fairly good grasp of science is really going round with the 'we're doomed' attitude that certain elements of the media love perpetuating.

Secondly, i think you underestimate scientists. They get paid shedloads of money for doing the research anyways. Appearing in the Mass Media really makes no difference to them (apart from people like Dawkins, but that's for a different reason).

Zascar

Felixdhc wrote: »

Hmmm, David McWilliams?

Sorry to drag away from global warming to local economy but I couldn't but think of our Mr McWilliams when I read that.

Deffo. But he's one man, and not an entire global lobbying industry.

If anyone remembers a show called "Future Shock - Property Crash" by a similar type journalist - he predicted 40% fall in house prices and massive dole queues etc etc. People laughed at him and called him a madman. I was thinking about buying a property at the time and that really helped me decide not to. Thank Fcuk. Now look where we are, he was not such a manman after all. However in fairness he probably wan't taking into account that Wall Street was going to sh!t itself.

Haha this is like the Off Topic Thread! Let it Roll!

OV

Ooooh don't you just love how a good global warming debate brings out all the backseat climatologists......:rolleyes:

Zascar

jtsuited wrote: »

(apart from people like Dawkins, but that's for a different reason).

Dawkins is a funny one alright. I have not read his book but I've seen a good few programs with him in it, most recently "The Genius of Charles Darwin". He's obviously done a great job of shooting himself to stardom and to being the kind-of leader of the eithiest movement - but I think he needs to change his approach. When he interviews Religious people etc and trys to have a discussion around whos right or wrong, he does it in such an arrogant way that these people are never going to consider any of the points he makes cause he's just so dam condescending towards them!

jtsuited

Zascar wrote: »

that way people are just going to want to buy more fuel efficient and less pollutant cars

which is the last thing a government needs!!!

What really grinds my gears is that when you say you really want to see renewable energy progress, people assume you're worried about the environment etc.

In reality, I'm interested in renewable energy because it's FREE. You set up a way of efficiently harnessing wind/wave/solar energy and you've got an endless supply of free energy.

You could run your car on massively inefficient batteries that let you go 500 miles an hour and you could fill up anywhere on electricity. For free.

Tbh, I couldn't give a crap about saving the earth's fragile beautiful balance yada yada yada. But oil is a fcuking disaster for everyone (especially given the fact most of it's under crazy religious fundamentalist countries). The warped free market speculation has landed us in the sh1t sooo many times now that you'd think we learn.

Anywho, back to Rampling. Wonder how big the cargo container was when he shipped the house music scene to England?

jtsuited

Zascar wrote: »

Dawkins is a funny one alright. I have not read his book but I've seen a good few programs with him in it, most recently "The Genius of Charles Darwin". He's obviously done a great job of shooting himself to stardom and to being the kind-of leader of the eithiest movement - but I think he needs to change his approach. When he interviews Religious people etc and trys to have a discussion around whos right or wrong, he does it in such an arrogant way that these people are never going to consider any of the points he makes cause he's just so dam condescending towards them!

ah to be fair to dawkins. he refuses to debate publically with creationists, which is fair enough, as the level of idiocy they're capable of would just end up as a complete joke.

I think what they semi-deliberately try to do with Dawkins is interesting. They get the guy who is one of the world leaders in evolutionary biology to try to talk sense into complete and utter retards. It's not to try and convince the creationists. It's about highlighting the intellectual gap between them to people who might have a bit more sense.

BaZmO*

I'm surprised at you Zas, I thought you were one of the enlightened ones.

Zascar wrote: »

I Highly recommend everyone watches this Channel 4 Documentary:

The Great Global Warming Swindle: http://www.viddler.com/explore/micheleforan/videos/2/

Even just watch the first 5-10 minutes and you'll get good idea of what its talking about.

(also note ciritcisms though - its not 100% accurate - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle)

I've seen several documentaries debunking "The Great Global Warming Swindle"

I suppose it all comes back to who do you believe the most. But one thing is for sure, there's certainly a lot of confusion/ambiguity as to whether or not global warming is a problem. You could argue that that confusion/ambiguity suits one side more than the other.

Zascar wrote: »

The world is very adaptive and I just have a problem with some guys saying the ice caps are going to melt in 20/50/100 years and we're going to be plunged into another ice age. Yes lets stop polluting and yes lets take better care of our earth, but lets not get carried away with ourselves while doing it.

Yes the world certainly is in an ever evolving state but generally the changes happen over a large period of time. Since the Industrial Revolution the rate of change has been astronomical and it would be silly to dismiss the fact that humans have had a large part to play in this.


I watched a documentary a while back and one of the major points that it made was that the world will keep turning no matter what we as humans do to it. And when we're all gone it will continue on as before.
The emphasis should not be save the planet but more so save ourselves or even moreso our future. But generally people don't give a sh1t because they won't be around when all the resources run out.

Zascar wrote: »

I was not really sure but fair enough. However, he said "I" did it, like it was him alone... He could have said "I was amongst a group of people who brought House Music to the UK" - but really I'm just being pedantic. I agree he's just trying to promote his career so fair enough.

In fairness though, he was one of a very very small group so he has a point even if he was being less than gracious while making it.

Zascar wrote: »

Dawkins is a funny one alright. I have not read his book but I've seen a good few programs with him in it, most recently "The Genius of Charles Darwin". He's obviously done a great job of shooting himself to stardom and to being the kind-of leader of the eithiest movement - but I think he needs to change his approach. When he interviews Religious people etc and trys to have a discussion around whos right or wrong, he does it in such an arrogant way that these people are never going to consider any of the points he makes cause he's just so dam condescending towards them!

I used to think that Dawkins was extremely arrogant when dealing with people opposed to his views, mainly creationists, but having watched the The Genius of Charles Darwin, and in particular the third episode, I can see why he does act in that way. Most of the people are loonies and treat him with complete and utter contempt. So it's hardly his fault that he doesn't have much time for them.

jtsuited

the problem with people's perception with Dawkins is that they often don't realise who he is. He's not some just some random scientist that one day decided to tell everyone they're stupid. His life's work has been in understanding evolution and explaining it to the masses. He is rated as one of THE greatest scientists in his area of expertise.

So when the Intelligent Design debacle kicked off in the States, the science community decided to send the one guy who nobody could even come close to in terms of scientific expertise into battle so to speak.

And on the way, he's encountered people whose stupidity and ignorance would make any rational intelligent and educated person laugh or cry (depending on their mood really). It is pretty funny seeing such an incredible intellect go face to face with complete and utter yokels. Because it illustrates that right now in certain parts of the United States, that very battle is taking place over whether evolution should be taught in schools.

If someone's a complete and utter idiot and their views are completely and utterly idiotic, it's very difficult to not come across as condescending. Especially when they genuinely think they're right because of some 2000 year old book. Even moreso when you've dedicated your life to scientific understanding of human origins.

BaZmO*

Yeah I agree totally.

The other problem is that by having someone like Dawkins engaging in debate with these crackpots it almost legitimises their viewpoint because in some circle it is seen as legitimate scientific debate when it's just a scientist arguing with retards.

Zascar

I know it's mad. The Evangelical Christians in the US are absolute Idiots. Have you seen that massive "Center for Creationism" they have in the bible belt? All about creationism and it shows how Dinosaurs and humans lived along side eachother. Pffft. The guy who runs it is an established scientist and totally believes in science etc etc - up until it conflicts with the Bible. Ha!

What I don't understand is how they are totally prepared to believe every single word in a book that was written collectively by dozens of people 2000 years ago (and if you hear some of the stuff that was in the books that did not get included in the final version of the bible you'd be shocked). It's not even like the Koran which was supposed to have been dictated by God himself. Aparently St Peter has had more of an influence over how every day Christianity works that Jesus did!

See, I think if Religion was able to adapt and change, it would have a far better chance of greater acceptance than still trying to govern with 2000 year old rules. If they just changed it to "God created the universe and the laws and rules around life" - less people would be opposed to it. If you have a second read this blog post I wrote a while back after watching a different documentary on the origins of life. Watch this 3m video for a summary)

This remind me of the recent saga going on in the UK about drugs. The Tsar said scientifically Alcohol and Tobacco are more dangerous that Cannabis, Ecstasy and LSD. His point was not to reverse the laws, but just to be more realistic about the messaging as if you tell people things that are just way to unbelieveable, people are just going to be instantly dismissive and not really listen.

(Go! Tangent Go!)

BaZmO*

Zascar wrote: »

(Go! Tangent Go!)

Ha. I love these Friday tangents!

acman

jtsuited wrote: »

Ah come on now Zas, you know what that's about. It's a way of introducing a sort of progressive taxation system on those that can afford it under the guise of trying to be environmentally conscious.
A fairly smart business move tbh by the government. If only they could be so fcuking smart when it came to spending money as opposed to making money.

Cars with a large C02 emission aren't necessarily expensive cars. In the case that they are, even the rich aren't stupid and will reluctantly buy a car that can cost up to 2500 euro PER YEAR to tax.

Bottom line is that it's a completely counter-productive system that discourages buying a new car...which you think they would encourage as they can reap the rewards of VRT.

That said, I would rather get back to slating Danny Rampling now

FLYNN-DOG

In fairness to Rampling, it's been well documented that he went to Ibiza, saw Alfredo dj'ing and brought the sound back to the UK. On the subject of Alfredo, I was speaking to him in Space - my (now, ex!) girlfriend wanted to know why I was talking to a sleazy looking old man!

Zascar

Who let their Grandad on the Decks?

Táck

thats how our kids will view moby