Wild Bird Trapping

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Hi there,

Does anybody know if the trapping of wild birds is actually illegal?

And which organisation would be responsable for dealing with such activity?

Thanks:)

Paul91

of certain birds i believe it is, take a look through this http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055704747

Discodog

WILD BIRDS Section 22(3) of the Wildlife Act, 1976 refers us to the Third Schedule for a list of those birds which are not protected wild birds:-

Protected Wild Bird is any wild bird other than a Bullfinch, Carrion Crow, Greater Black-backed Gull, Herring Gull, Hooded (Grey) Crow, House Sparrow, Jackdaw, Jay, Lesser Black-backed Gull, Magpie, Pigeons (including Wood Pigeon, but not including Carrier Pigeons, Racing Homing Pigeons or Doves), Rook, Starling .


If it's not one of the above & the trapper is not licensed, it is illegal & the Guards would deal with it.

IrishHomer

"Search", i have just PM'd you please read.

star-pants

Nature&bird watching forum might also have some information.

Discodog

So might the hunting forum but from a rather different perspective.

lrushe

The trapping of ALL wild birds is illegal. The RSPB is responsible for dealing with offenders

Discodog

lrushe wrote: »

The trapping of ALL wild birds is illegal. The RSPB is responsible for dealing with offenders

Can you please support this as it is totally contradictory to the law which I have posted above.

The RSPB is a UK charity. The closest Irish organisation is probably Birdwatch Ireland. But as in any case of illegal activity it is the responsibility of the guards.

BryanL

Discodog wrote: »

Can you please support this as it is totally contradictory to the law which I have posted above.

The RSPB is a UK charity. The closest Irish organisation is probably Birdwatch Ireland. But as in any case of illegal activity it is the responsibility of the guards.

Some people are unaware Ireland has Independence. If someone breaks the law call the Gardai, not much point in calling the rspb!

Some wild birds can certainly be trapped legally.

Bryan

lrushe

Discodog wrote: »

Can you please support this as it is totally contradictory to the law which I have posted above.

The RSPB is a UK charity. The closest Irish organisation is probably Birdwatch Ireland. But as in any case of illegal activity it is the responsibility of the guards.

Sorry I meant ISPCA, without a special licence for a specific reason ie. zoology, it is illegal. The do's and don't's can be downloaded off their website.

doctor evil

larsen traps are perfectly legal.

Heres a website on info about Larsen traps

http://homepage.eircom.net/~jamesanthonyryan/new_page_20.htm

doctor evil

lrushe wrote: »

The trapping of ALL wild birds is illegal.

Incorrect

6 39
[GA]

CHAPTER III Protection of wild birds, protected animals and flora

[GA] Protection of wild birds.

19.—Wild birds and their nests and eggs, other than wild birds of the species mentioned in the Third Schedule to this Act, shall be protected.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1976/en/act/pub/0039/sec0019.html#zza39y1976s19

SPECIES OF WILD BIRDS EXCLUDED (SUBJECT TO SECTION 22 (2)) FROM SECTIONS 19 AND 22
[GA]

Bullfinch
Carrion Crow
Greater Black-backed Gull
Herring Gull
Hooded (Grey) Crow
House Sparrow
Jackdaw
Jay
Lesser Black-backed Gull
Magpie
Pigeons, including Wood Pigeon, but not including carrier pigeons, racing horning pigeons or doves
Rook
Starling
Sections 22 and 23.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1976/en/act/pub/0039/gen_14.html#gen_14

Discodog

The same list that I posted many posts ago. Most of the complaints regarding the trapping of birds come from people spotting Larsen Traps. Whilst these will be utterly repugnant to animal lovers their use is regrettably not illegal yet.

doctor evil

Discodog wrote: »

Whilst these will be utterly repugnant to animal lovers their use is regrettably not illegal yet.

How else would you control vermin, or do you believe such a thing doesn't exist.

Discodog

doctor evil wrote: »

How else would you control vermin, or do you believe such a thing doesn't exist.

House sparrows numbers are falling so rapidly that they are now a protected species in the North. Bullfinch - Vermin ?.

The cruelty of Larsen Traps is well documented & they have even been banned in Denmark which is ironic as that's where they originated. For the uninitiated reading this, a wild bird is placed into the trap to lure other wild birds. Often they are left for days with no food & water. The poor wild bird undergoes incredible stress as it is in a small cage with no cover until it is finally killed.

It would appear that the RSPCA & at least one judge agree.

Mr Justice Leveson said that Mr Shinton, a member of the British Association for Shooting and Conservation, was authorised to confine the magpie under the 1981 Wildlife and Countryside Act.
But he said that Philip Browning, the Telford district judge, was wrong to clear him of causing the bird unnecessary suffering. Although the trap might be lawful, it was "illogical" to say that its owner had no responsibility.
"It is impossible to say that this bird did not suffer unnecessarily," he said. "I do not accept that the trapped bird being lawfully used demonstrates that an offence under the 1911 Protection of Animals Act cannot be made out."
The judge said it was not necessary for the case to be reconsidered, as the RSPCA had brought it only to clarify the law.
The RSPCA described Larsen traps as "inherently cruel", adding: "There is no evidence that magpies have a significant effect on the songbird population."