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Wolves vs. Arsenal

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  • #102
    Mr. Presentable
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    World class means doing it internationaly.


    WC Euros etc:

    No it doesn't. It means, if we take on Mars tomorrow, who is in our side. That is, who has the class to represent our world.

    My, and the only rational, understanding. ;)


  • #103
    Mr. Presentable
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    Mr Alan wrote: »
    no, personally i'd deem the best 3 or 4 in their position in the world to be world class.

    Key phrase, and nonsense. How do you get to decide?


  • #104
    Paleface
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    nipplenuts wrote: »
    No it doesn't. It means, if we take on Mars tomorrow, who is in our side. That is, who has the class to represent our world.

    My, and the only rational, understanding. ;)

    Ha!! Taking on Mars. Does Rooney play for them??!


  • #105
    Mr. Presentable
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    Paleface wrote: »
    Ha!! Taking on Mars. Does Rooney play for them??!

    I bet he does, if they pay the most.


  • #106
    Mr Alan
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    jank wrote: »
    So name 3 or 4 better players in that position?

    well he's a tough cookie to nail positionally! so if he's an attacking midfielder/winger/forward.

    Ronaldo, Aguero, Iniesta, Ribery, Rooney, Gerrard, Van Persie, Kaka even Messi ain't too far from a similar positionally, all imo are far better players.

    Don't get me wrong btw, i'm a fan of Arshavin.


  • #107
    jank
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    Mr Alan wrote: »
    well he's a tough cookie to nail positionally! so if he's an attacking midfielder/winger/forward.

    Ronaldo, Aguero, Iniesta, Ribery, Rooney, Gerrard, Van Persie, Kaka even Messi ain't too far from a similar positionally, all imo are far better players.

    Don't get me wrong btw, i'm a fan of Arshavin.

    LOL so basicly you take ALL of the world class players of an attacking variety and lump them in with him......way to go to prove a point;)

    You could have 5-6 players of the above playing in the SAME team! never mind this dicusion being based around the players who is best in his position


  • #108
    Mr Alan
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    he plays a variety of positions tbf.


  • #109
    Mr. Presentable
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    jank wrote: »
    LOL so basicly you take ALL of the world class players of an attacking variety and lump them in with him......way to go to prove a point;)

    You could have 5-6 players of the above playing in the SAME team! never mind this dicusion being based around the players who is best in his position

    Actually, no. This discussion: Wolves vs. Arsenal


  • #110
    Frisbee
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    jank wrote: »
    LOL so basicly you take ALL of the world class players of an attacking variety and lump them in with him......way to go to prove a point;)

    You could have 5-6 players of the above playing in the SAME team! never mind this dicusion being based around the players who is best in his position

    I'm not getting your point here?

    You asked him to name better players and he has done so?


  • #111
    jank
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    LOL came up with this beauty.
    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Arshavin may be world class, so thats Rafa 3-Wenger 1. by your own standards

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=62595313&postcount=146

    Today
    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Arshavin is not world class.

    Do you always change your mind so fast, what was it now, 3 weeks or so.:D:D

    Get a grip man, at least be consistent with your uber rose tinted dribble and rants:)

    All these poor Liverpool results must be making you lose your memory:p


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  • #112
    Mr Alan
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    i said "he may be world class". i didnt see the point in arguing about it in that other thread so i conceded and said maybe he is under your standards because it didnt really make any difference to the point i was trying to make.

    it really depends on the definition of world class, in this thread here tonight we were talking about top 3 in the world.

    he isnt world class under that definition imo.

    not really fussed tbh, i like him, class player.


  • #113
    Paleface
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    nipplenuts wrote: »
    Actually, no. This discussion: Wolves vs. Arsenal

    Yeah we've kind of strayed off topic here but the whole who is or isn't world class is an interesting topic. It can't be accurately defined I believe.

    You can throw obvious names around but so can anyone else and their dog.

    Maybe its a discussion for another thread....


  • #114
    leninbenjamin
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    jank wrote: »
    I think he needs to do more but lets wait a few more months before we consign him as a cast off!;)

    Ah come on now I suggested nothing of the sort.

    Some people seem to find it incredulous that he's not at the heart of everything we do this season, but i was pointing out that if you look back through his career he's always been a bit of an on-off player.


  • #115
    jank
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    Mr Alan wrote: »
    i said "he may be world class". i didnt see the point in arguing about it in that other thread so i conceded and said maybe he is under your standards because it didnt really make any difference to the point i was trying to make.

    it really depends on the definition of world class, in this thread here tonight we were talking about top 3 in the world.

    he isnt world class under that definition imo.

    not really fussed tbh, i like him, class player.


    Saying maybe he is, is very different to saying he may be...
    If you were consistent you would have said tonight he might be, maybe he is rather than he is NOT! After all no defintion of world class had been arranged prior to you making those comments as you have just alluded to above in a way to try and worm yourself out of this predicament.

    Backtrack away anyway, what was written is written and people can judge for themselves.


  • #116
    jank
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    leninbenjamin wrote: »
    Ah come on now I suggested nothing of the sort.

    Some people seem to find it incredulous that he's not at the heart of everything we do this season, but i was pointing out that if you look back through his career he's always been a bit of an on-off player.

    IMO I think he is a big game player which will be very curcial coming into the close of the season. Maybe he doesnt get up for wolves away as he would for say inter in the Q/F's of the CL. In big games he turns it on and the biggest game of the season we had this year was United away.

    Also I think the slight change of formation is not helping him. He is stuck out wide more than he would like and he would much rather to play in the hole behind the lead striker. That my opinion of him anyway.


  • #117
    Johner
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    Mr Alan wrote: »
    not it doesn't.

    not in the slightest imo.

    Ryan Giggs, George Best, Roy Keane, Drogba etc. **** all internationally. All world class at one point or another.

    Drogba? **** all for his country? Really? Have a look at his record!


  • #118
    Mr Alan
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    fella said has to do it in World Cups or EC. Drogba has done nowt in the world cup & isnt in Europe.


  • #119
    Johner
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    Mr Alan wrote: »
    fella said has to do it in World Cups or EC. Drogba has done nowt in the world cup & isnt in Europe.

    Eh he scored in the World Cup in Ivory Coasts first time ever qualifying for it.What else would you like him to do?


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