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Republic of Ireland vs. France WC Playoff Sat/Wed 14/18 November **K/Os 8 PM/9 PM**
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IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »Er.....Keane has been far from amazing this season but he's still near the top of the goalscoring charts.
He played well in one match against Burnley were he scored 4. He is widely said to be Spurs worst player this season and most of them want him dropped.
You would think by the way Dunphy was going on, that Keane was a world class player.0 -
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He played well in one match against Burnley were he scored 4. He is widely said to be Spurs worst player this season and most of them want him dropped.
You would think by the way Dunphy was going on, that Keane was a world class player.
"Worst player" is very very harsh, and anyway like I said, despite not being in great form he still has 6 league goals! And Spurs have been playing him on the left in some games in fairness.0 -
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IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »I daresay Defoe's doesn't look smashing either if you discount the hat-trick against Hull.
3 goals in 6 games for Defoe if you ignore the Hull game.
Sorry but I think that does look pretty close to smashing form.
From what I've seen of Keane so far this season, Burnley game aside, he has done ok but he hasn't been in great/smashing/wonderful form.
Don't think I would call him Spurs's worst player but his form in general play hasnt been as good in previous seasons for them whereas a lot of other Spurs players seemed to be having better seasons compared to previously.
Stand by my previous criticisms of the team that Trap had set up a team/system designed not to lose games as opposed to win them. While I can understand the logic behind it in terms of the qualification process, I think it falls down in terms of playoff type situations and in terms of potentially tournament play.
While Ireland battled bravely in the first half, we didn't play all that much football. France didn't play all that well and were fortunate with the goal but I can't put my hand on my heart and say they didnt deserve the win as they were on top for a large part of the second half. At 1-0 down we have a chance in Paris but I couldn't say I'm optimistic. Hopeful but not optimisitc.
Similar to Italy I really cant see them doing a whole lot at the World Cup next year (assuming they get throught) unless they ditch Dommench. They look like a team which is less the sum of their parts as opposed to a side which is better than the sum of their parts.0 -
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It's disappointing that of the other qualifiers yesterday-
Ukraine got a 0-0 in Greece so great chance for them at home
Bosnia only went down by a goal in Portugal so they can turn that around at home
Slovenia grabbed themselves a late, precious away goal in Russia to make it 2-1 so they can cause a shock and win that tie.
The only other tie that's more or less predictable and wrapped up is ours
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MementoMori wrote: »3 goals in 6 games for Defoe if you ignore the Hull game.
Sorry but I think that does look pretty close to smashing form.
From what I've seen of Keane so far this season, Burnley game aside, he has done ok but he hasn't been in great/smashing/wonderful form.
Don't think I would call him Spurs's worst player but his form in general play hasnt been as good in previous seasons for them whereas a lot of other Spurs players seemed to be having better seasons compared to previously.
Stand by my previous criticisms of the team that Trap had set up a team/system designed not to lose games as opposed to win them. While I can understand the logic behind it in terms of the qualification process, I think it falls down in terms of playoff type situations and in terms of potentially tournament play.
While Ireland battled bravely in the first half, we didn't play all that much football. France didn't play all that well and were fortunate with the goal but I can't put my hand on my heart and say they didnt deserve the win as they were on top for a large part of the second half. At 1-0 down we have a chance in Paris but I couldn't say I'm optimistic. Hopeful but not optimisitc.
Similar to Italy I really cant see them doing a whole lot at the World Cup next year (assuming they get throught) unless they ditch Dommench. They look like a team which is less the sum of their parts as opposed to a side which is better than the sum of their parts.
Fair enough GRRRRRRR
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I was in row x of the upper davin last night. Stadium was rocking. But also from that height it gives you a great view of the formation of the Irish team. Im not a fan of Trappatoni's style but I could appreciate that the team is cearly well drilled. For most of the night we had two banks of four players ahead of France. Closing down was done in methodical way, i.e. Lawrence pushes forward to close down the full back, O'Shea steps up onto the winger. Not rocket science, not a thrilling style of football but the team kept it up for 90 minutes and but for a deflected goal it seemed to be effective at stopping the French. They had a lot of the ball but for the most part found it hard to manourvre in the final third of the field.
We will of course do exactly the same in Paris. We will be relying on set pieces and a bit of luck. Certainly not impossible but I think the picture from Irish training this morning sums up the feeling around the soccer community today:
Have we any injuries from last night?0 -
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OK I really do not see why we are being so pessimistic today. Yes we were totally outplayed in the 2nd half but there is only one goal in it, they should have had 2 more in reality for the amount of possession they had in the 2nd half and the gifting by Kilbane of that backpass but the French didn't and that will be playing on their minds. One goal for us on Wednesday and the whole colour of the tie changes, self doubt will start to plague the French and it could be our day in Paris.
Yes our record away from home is dismal, yes they have better players but this is now a once off game and bad records have to come to an end sometime. The team feel robbed by a lucky goal and slighted by unsportsman like behaviour by Diarra and this will motivate them even further. Our job is now to get behind them and if you are lucky enough to be in Paris to shout until your voice is gone. We can bitch and moan afterwards for now lets get behind the team.
Now to get back to trash talking the French in-laws 0 -
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The main thing for me is that I dont see us capable of scoring two against France away from home. How many times do Ireland ever score twice away from home ?
We don't have to score twice (if we don't concede
) once would force penalties Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test
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ScienceNerd wrote: »We don't have to score twice (if we don't concede) once would force penalties
While thats correct I wouldnt want to be in such a dangerous position. Also the fact France are at home would have you thinking they are good for at least one themselves. France will be far more potent at home.0 -
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Lads get over yourself. Ireland needed to be in the lead going into Wednesday or at least at nil all. It's game over. Give up.
Things are never straight forward like that. Is a 2-1 win really so inconceivable?
Ireland get an early goal, France equalise, 1-1 at half time. Ireland nick a 2nd in the 87th minute. 0 -
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