Izevbakhai Case Restarts...again.

AlekSmart

Interesting slant from the "Paper of Record" to Pamela Izevbekhai`s return to the Supreme Court on Friday (6Th).

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1107/1224258280658.html

The article saw fit to merely refer in passing that Ms Izevbekhai`s newly accquired Legal team never even managed to get out of the traps and as a result the were applying to come "off the record" in relation to the lady.

In the normal course of events a member of the general public undertaking to represent themselves at Supreme Court level would merit quite a few column inches,but not in this case.

Instead the Irish Times article focuses upon some new revelations from Ms Izevbekhai including a new Nigerian Doctor named Ori.


Quite what we are to make of the Threatening Postcard as a verifiable reason for her "new" laywers to shy away from handling her case is anybodys guess.

Equally her complaint that Nigeria`s Chief Justice and it`s Ambassador to Ireland were undermining her credibility may indeed be accurate,but all it did for me was stretch her credibility to snapping point !!

However,I remain unconvinced that the Supreme Court would indulge other less celebrated respondents to the extent that Pamela Izevbekhai is being (expensively) indulged.

So we now have another adjournment to facilitate God knows what ruminations are necessary to even attach a veil of veracity to the ongoing story.......I wonder will the taxing master ever get to inspect the costs attaching to this case

Big_Mac

I caught the tail end of an article on the News during the week, and the case is adourned until next thursday where she will be representing herself.

Another article from the independent where her challenges against the new affadavits that were submitted was rejected.

Her story does appear to be coming unstuck very quickly.

How can another doctor produce a death certificate in relation to her alleged daughters death when she claimed herself that Dr Unokanjo was the doctor that signed the cert in the first place - did she forget?

Zambia

In the whole of Ireland can at least one fat lady be found that can sing an end to this.

Big_Mac

Zambia232 wrote: »

In the whole of Ireland can at least one fat lady be found that can sing an end to this.

Thursday hopefully........

Permabear

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MrMicra

I wonder how much money the department of Justice has spent to expel this woman from Ireland for no obvious reason.

AlekSmart

This has not been an auspicious year for the High and Supreme Courts of Ireland

What should be regarded as the highest arbiters of the rule of law in this country have been reduced to a disneyesque travesty,firstly by the Izevbekhai appearances and the apparent unwillingness of even the highest Courts to simply say, enough !

Then as if that had not inflicted enough damage to credibility,along came Liam Carroll and the Zoe group with a retinue of the highest and mightiest of the Law Library.

These two sets of litigants between them have wreaked terrible and as yet unappreciated damage to the entire concept of the administration of the Law...and as for Justice,perhaps it`s best not to go there,particularly if one is a simple 5/8ths who pays for it all :mad:

AlekSmart

I wonder how much money the department of Justice has spent to expel this woman from Ireland for no obvious reason.

I suppose somewhere buried deep in here is some form of answer to the "obvious" bit..
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055261880

Or then again perhaps not ?

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055585513

Who knows perhaps the debate will restart...these things have a habit of not going away :rolleyes:

Kristopherus

The sooner that conniving bitch is turfed out of the country for good the better. Enough is enough is enough ffs.

opo

donegalfella wrote: »

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No.

The postcard was a red herring and a clumsy attempt to come off record without the solicitors having to spell out (yet again) that their client is an abject liar and incapable of presenting a credible case to themselves - never mind offer something that they could credibly bring to the SC.

AlekSmart

I`m open to correction but was this Legal Team the second,newly accquired one ?

There is something more than a little odd about how the greater body of the Irish Legal Proffession has become enmeshed in this womans always shaky case.

I say full marks to the Minister and his Department for pursuing this case as it strikes to the core of the relationship between The Law and the People.

It would have been oh so much easier for them to go down the "Who will think of the Children" road with all the resultant plaudits from the breathless observers.

mikemac

"Take my advice, back off now. Pamela is the greatest con artist ever."

The writer claimed Ms Izevbekhai was "making a fool out of the Irish people and costing tax to Irish people". The writer added: "I know, I am Nigerian, she manipulates everybody."

That's what was on the postcard and yet that's considered threatentening?
If I ever employ lawyers I want them to fight for me. If that's enough to get them to quit maybe my Ms Izebbakhai is better off without them

opo wrote: »

No.

The postcard was a red herring and a clumsy attempt to come off record without the solicitors having to spell out (yet again) that their client is an abject liar and incapable of presenting a credible case to themselves - never mind offer something that they could credibly bring to the SC.

Ah., what I suspected, thanks for confirming

HollyB

donegalfella wrote: »

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They may be awaiting developments with the case, to see if the new "evidence" being submitted by Pamela is at least enough to allow them to pretend that its credible, or else they're waiting for her appeal to be dismissed and the order for deportation to be signed so they can break out the righteous indignation on behalf of the children.

It's close enough to Christmas for that card to be played, and I believe that one of the girls has a birthday in December, and Jemima is around 7 so she might be making her First Communion this year, so those work as fuel for "Won't somebody think of the children?!".

Alternatively, they could insist that Pamela is in danger if she returns to Nigeria, either from the authorities or from her in-laws who could be justifiably upset if they have been falsely accused of murdering a baby and of trying to kidnap and mutilate their granddaughters, so she has to stay in Ireland because of that.

There's also the length of time they've been in Ireland... let's all pretend that this isn't because Pamela evaded a deportation order in 2005 and has been bombarding the courts with appeal after appeal after appeal since then... and the argument that this gives them the right to stay, regardless of the reason why they have stayed for so long.



By the way, has the mysterious Adrian Izevbekhai made an appearance yet? If Pamela wants prove the Dr Unokanjo is lying about her having a child before 2000, then the existence of a teenage son, on whom a DNA test could be performed to prove his identity, would take care of that nicely.

AlekSmart

By the way, has the mysterious Adrian Izevbekhai made an appearance yet?

HollyB,never mind Adrian...I`d be more interested in the comings and goings of Anthony,the husband.....now there`s a silent partner if I ever heard one...

HollyB

AlekSmart wrote: »

HollyB,never mind Adrian...I`d be more interested in the comings and goings of Anthony,the husband.....now there`s a silent partner if I ever heard one...

What about the in-laws? They're being accused of pressurizing Pamela and Tony into a procedure that killed their alleged eldest daughter, not to mention attempting to kidnap Naomi and Jemima to have them mutilated.

Where are the newspaper interviews from journalists who have tracked them down - which shouldn't be too difficult; by the sounds of things, they're practically a royal family over there, with fingers in every pie in the country and spies in every village, ready to report sightings of Pamela and her daughters should they return to Nigeria, so they should be fairly prominent people - to find out why they're so determined to have their granddaughters mutilated but, at the same time, apparently not determined enough to track them to Ireland, given that they know what they look like and where they live, thanks to the media coverage?

With Adrian Izevbekhai, assuming that he exists, proving that he is alive and that he is Pamela's son means that she had a child pre-2000, something that will bolster her case. Where is he?

PaulieD

Is the tax payer picking up the tab for her legal fees?

opo

PaulieD wrote: »

Is the tax payer picking up the tab for her legal fees?

Yes.

Win or lose - the states outlay in solicitors and the (ab)use of the courts will be paid for by the taxpayer as she will claim an inability to pay either way.

The final kick in the teeth will be paying for her expulsion.

HollyB

PaulieD wrote: »

Is the tax payer picking up the tab for her legal fees?

Well, if she's representing herself, I assume that the tax payer doesn't have to pay her to do so but she's racked up a huge legal bill so far and, even if she and her husband are as comfortably off as she claims to be, I doubt that they'll be paying off so much as a tenth of the bill.

ParkRunner

I find it absolutely incredible that she is still trying to push her case. She has been unable to verify any part of her claim and at this stage her story has been torn to shreds from start to finish. Even her hardcore supporters have disappeared from the stage and she is persisting with rubbing their noses in it.

It says it all to me that no legal team is willing to represent her now even though the asylum court list is as long as ever. The Supreme Court will hopefully come down hard in their judgment as state that this is a scandalous waste of the Court's time.

She has done incredible damage to those genuinely in need of protection and it would not surprise me if she has another trick up her sleeve to work the system in her favour and persist with every challenge possible. If god forbid she was eventually granted permission to stay here, she can spend the next 40 years paying off her legal fees like the rest of us would have to do.

HollyB

EF wrote: »

I find it absolutely incredible that she is still trying to push her case.

What does she have to lose at this point? She's not the one footing the bill for this farce, we are. We're paying for the legal costs, not to mention the costs of accommodating her and her daughters since their arrival in Ireland. If she loses, she goes back to Nigeria and to her life there, leaving her bills for us to pay and, on the off chance that she wins, she won't be pursued for legal costs.

I wonder if she would still be pursuing the case if the state had the option of recovering her legal costs from her, in cooperation with the Nigerian authorities, by seizing assets she and her husband have in Nigeria, and she had to pay for everything.

ParkRunner

HollyB wrote: »

What does she have to lose at this point? She's not the one footing the bill for this farce, we are. We're paying for the legal costs, not to mention the costs of accommodating her and her daughters since their arrival in Ireland. If she loses, she goes back to Nigeria and to her life there, leaving her bills for us to pay and, on the off chance that she wins, she won't be pursued for legal costs.

I wonder if she would still be pursuing the case if the state had the option of recovering her legal costs from her, in cooperation with the Nigerian authorities, by seizing assets she and her husband have in Nigeria, and she had to pay for everything.

True, if she had any bit of decency or sense of moral standards she might accept the rulings of one of ORAC, RAT, The Minister for Justice x 2 so far I think, the High Court x 2 and in the near future the Supreme Court and the ECJ. Her costs in terms of legal fees and time spent by public officials on her case must be into the millions at this stage! I like the idea of something akin to a civil assets bureau..we could even give the Nigerian authorities a sizeable bribe commission!

Sattwa69

The Supreme Court does not rehear a case, it only confirms that the decision made by the lower court (in this case The High Court) was correct. She has taken the case to the Supreme Court only on points of Law from the previous case, but in the meantime the further revelations have emerged.

This case is so riddled with holes that it is a farce, my only fear is that the do-gooder bleeding heart brigade will emerge again from the shadows again after the decision goes against her and plead for leniency / mercy to the Minister.

Incidentally if any of you happen to need a Nigerian Death Certificate just google it and the last time I checked they were $20 posted to whatever address you like.

Incidentally, her husband was arrented at one stage trying to enter the state illegally in Dundalk. This appears to be the only sighting of that rare species. One presumes that there is better PR/photo opportunity value for a 'poor woman and her two little children' to be seen. - This woman is a disgrace using her little children for her own selfish ends.

opo

Sattwa69 wrote: »

The Supreme Court does not rehear a case, it only confirms that the decision made by the lower court (in this case The High Court) was correct. .

Ok, but, to the point, the State is looking to have her case dismissed as an abuse of process rather than continue with this dismal charade of adjudicating on her rejected claim for asylum from every single legal avenue possible - for years on end - with the aid of every single publicity hungry lawyer.

That they have run a mile - speaks volumes.

Yet, I am am still surprised that the resident against racism style morons are so quiet.

AlekSmart

I am am still surprised that the resident against racism style morons are so quiet.

Well opo,i`m not so sure they will remain so.

Anybody unlucky enough to come across the RAR table at the Bank of Ireland in College Green will be fully briefed as to the sheer awfulness of the Rascist Country we inhabit.

I`m not so sure we could apply the term "moron" to them though,as I tend to find them the exact opposite to moronic.

They are fully entitled to hold their viewpints and to publicise and seek support for those,however they have do date merely jumped aboard every half-cause such as Pamela Izevbekhai`s and then attempted to make a cause-celebre out of it......:rolleyes:

This tactic has not worked and has left RAR striding alongside the Socialist Workers Party and the various "motivated" entities that attach themselves to so many otherwise valid causes in Irish society...In other words the RAR are marginalized and will remain so until they see some light.

Sizzler

Seriously it would have been cheaper to send her to Monaco with a suitcase full of cash when the first ruling was handed down rather than go through the pain of the last few years and the millions thats been wasted on it, not to mention the detraction of any sort of credibility to the justice system that is supposed to underpin such decisions FFS.

Let her stay and indemnify the state from providing any social welfare assistance for the duration of her stay in any shape or form, wonder if she would stay then, worth asking. I'm sure there would a q a mile long from her hoodwinked wonderful supporters looking to put her up :rolleyes:

segaBOY

AlekSmart wrote: »

Well opo,i`m not so sure they will remain so.

Anybody unlucky enough to come across the RAR table at the Bank of Ireland in College Green will be fully briefed as to the sheer awfulness of the Rascist Country we inhabit.

I`m not so sure we could apply the term "moron" to them though,as I tend to find them the exact opposite to moronic.

They are fully entitled to hold their viewpints and to publicise and seek support for those,however they have do date merely jumped aboard every half-cause such as Pamela Izevbekhai`s and then attempted to make a cause-celebre out of it......:rolleyes:

This tactic has not worked and has left RAR striding alongside the Socialist Workers Party and the various "motivated" entities that attach themselves to so many otherwise valid causes in Irish society...In other words the RAR are marginalized and will remain so until they see some light.

It really annoys me how much publicity they get from RTÉ (doesn't really surprise me however) and the like.

I can't understand how "state racism"=enforcement of immigration laws. In that case every country in the world who has some form of immigration policy is racist which includes almost every country in the world it seems.

donkey balls

segaBOY wrote: »

It really annoys me how much publicity they get from RTÉ (doesn't really surprise me however) and the like.

I can't understand how "state racism"=enforcement of immigration laws. In that case every country in the world who has some form of immigration policy is racist which includes almost every country in the world it seems.

i wonder what RAR would think of the Austrailian immigration laws there known for not taking crap and yet i never here anybody going on about how unfair there system is

Zambia

donkey balls wrote: »

i wonder what RAR would think of the Austrailian immigration laws there known for not taking crap and yet i never here anybody going on about how unfair there system is

Mate we have 75 idiots stuck on a customs vessel outside Indonesia that wont get off unless they are taken to Australia and no one in Aus knows how to legally remove the f**kers.

And loads of people go on about how unfair the system is here.

However I could never see this being swallowed. If you count up the total cost to the Irish public and private purse of every dodgy Nigerian email or phishing scam. Against the legal bill for this I wonder which cost more.

HollyB

Zambia232 wrote: »

Mate we have 75 idiots stuck on a customs vessel outside Indonesia that wont get off unless they are taken to Australia and no one in Aus knows how to legally remove the f**kers.

How long has this been going on, and how are they getting provisions?

donkey balls

Zambia232 wrote: »

Mate we have 75 idiots stuck on a customs vessel outside Indonesia that wont get off unless they are taken to Australia and no one in Aus knows how to legally remove the f**kers.

And loads of people go on about how unfair the system is here.

However I could never see this being swallowed. If you count up the total cost to the Irish public and private purse of every dodgy Nigerian email or phishing scam. Against the legal bill for this I wonder which cost more.

could allways open up woomera again and process them there

994

MrMicra wrote: »

I wonder how much money the department of Justice has spent to expel this woman from Ireland for no obvious reason.

Surely filing a false claim for asylum, forging a death certificate and perjury are enough?