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Is darren Flecther becoming the best midfielder in the esl

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  • #102
    Macca07
    Registered Users Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Macca07


    tdv wrote: »
    Well thats just based on goals neither of them are in there teams for there goalscoring abilities. And still Essien has 4 more goals than him in less games aswell so I dont see the point in these stats if your arguing for Fletcher

    Thats the point I was making!!!!


  • #103
    spockety
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,503 Mod ✭✭✭✭spockety


    I was delighted when I saw that Fletcher wouldn't be playing against Liverpool a few weeks back.

    And that's all I have to say on the matter.


  • #104
    Rondolfus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 374 ✭✭Rondolfus


    "is Darren Fletcher becoming the best midfielder in the premier league?"


    Glad to see nobody is getting carried away considering only 12 games have been played so far this year.:rolleyes:


    Anyway, Darren Fletcher??? I thought Andy Reid was becoming the best midfielder in the world, never mind the premier league!! These boards confuse me!


  • #105
    JPA
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,792 ✭✭✭✭JPA


    Every team needs a Fletcher/defensive type. The fact that United have no other player like him makes him important to them. And as United are so high profile his absence is highlighted and his presence also highlighted when he comes back after injury.
    I don't think he's too much better than other players of his ilk, although he does his role well for United and is much more noticeable against better players.


  • #106
    Morzadec
    Registered Users Posts: 5,952 ✭✭✭Morzadec


    As a Liverpool fan, I would have to say there is some strength to the argument that Fletcher is better than Mascherano and Barry. I think maybe it's an argument that can't be settled now, and would have to be reassessed at the end of the season, but it's not as ridiculous a claim as some might think.

    Not sure if this argument is relevant to the OP anyway, but to reiterate Fletcher is not the best midfielder in the Premiership nor will he ever be.


  • #107
    JP Liz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    As a MU fan still the answer is no


  • #108
    Fromvert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Fromvert


    Rondolfus wrote: »
    "is Darren Fletcher becoming the best midfielder in the premier league?"


    Glad to see nobody is getting carried away considering only 12 games have been played so far this year.:rolleyes:


    Anyway, Darren Fletcher??? I thought Andy Reid was becoming the best midfielder in the world, never mind the premier league!! These boards confuse me!

    Well the premier league has been around longer then 12 games.

    Fletcher has been playing very well for the last few years and Andy Reid eventually decided to drop the weight and is now see the rewards for doing it.


  • #109
    Bandit12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭Bandit12


    No not just the EPL but the best midfielder ever. Fact.


  • #110
    Sir Gallagher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭Sir Gallagher


    This thread has given me a laugh if nothing else, I love how some people are basically eliminating every other midfielder in the league to boost Fletcher up the list.

    Gerrard- "Oh he's a forward now"

    Fabragas- "Too attacking"

    Lampard- "Too Attacking"

    Mascherano- "Too defensive"

    Barry- "Are you kidding, not even in the same league as the mighty Fletch"

    So basically we've deducted that; Darren Fletcher is the best midfielder in the league not counting midfielders that aren't Darren Fletcher.


  • #111
    gosplan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    Boggles wrote: »
    WTF? :confused::confused:

    Well, by your rational, most teams only start games with two midfielders on the pitch, no?

    Boggles wrote: »
    Yes as a support striker?

    What exactly are you arguing?

    To be honest, most people call it a midfielder playing in the hole or an attacking midfielder making runs from deep or whatever - in fact just about everyone in the world does except you. Anyway, forget it, Gerrard's a striker, whatever.

    Boggles wrote: »
    Nothing to do with his record, you said he would need someone to do his attacking for him, I stated he is well able to attack and get on the score sheet.

    And Lampard's well able to tackle and track back, what's your original point then?

    Don't bother replying to this BTW. You've just become the first person ever in four years here I've added to my ignore list. Really, your irrationality and search for an argument knows no bounds.

    I mean, it figures you spend far more time in Liverpool threads than Man U ones. However, now we're in a Man U thread and you start arguing that one of the most recognised midfielders in the world, who happens to play for ... surprise ... spurprise ... Liverpool, actually isn't a midfielder.


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  • #112
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,732 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    gosplan wrote: »
    You've just become the first person ever in four years here I've added to my ignore list.

    Thank Fook.
    Sir Gallagher wrote: »
    This thread has given me a laugh if nothing else, I love how some people are basically eliminating every other midfielder in the league to boost Fletcher up the list.

    Gerrard- "Oh he's a forward now"

    Fabragas- "Too attacking"

    Lampard- "Too Attacking"

    Mascherano- "Too defensive"

    Barry- "Are you kidding, not even in the same league as the mighty Fletch"

    So basically we've deducted that; Darren Fletcher is the best midfielder in the league not counting midfielders that aren't Darren Fletcher.

    :confused:

    Not one person on the thread has said Fletcher is the best midfielder in the league??


  • #113
    PHB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Right now, he isn't even the best defensive midfielder for United. Hargreaves is still a superior player.

    Fletcher however is developing nicely, and now a very good player who is probably earning his place in the first 11 of a top 4 club. Usual standard being that I'm pretty sure he'd walk into any team outside of the top 4.

    However he's still got a lot to go. Hargreaves is better than him, so is Mascherano and Essien. However, that's not a bad position to be in, especially since people have been writing him off for about 4-5 years.


  • #114
    CHD
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    This happens all the time.
    Means you have arrived and people think your a top player.


  • #115
    thegen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭thegen


    Is darren Flecther becoming the best midfielder in the esl

    Yes the above is the title of the thread. It is a closed question, ie it is a Yes or No answer. It is not up for debate.

    The correct answer is No.


  • #116
    SlickRic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,369 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    the funniest thread in ages.

    flecther has been a machine for the last 2 years, fulfilling the role given almost perfectly. he is utd's most important midfielder by a long way.

    not in the same class as those midfielders mentioned.

    but he is damn good at what he does.

    he has quality, obviously, but he's not the cleanest tackler in the world yet adequate, not the best dribbler or shot in the world yet adequate.

    however, his dedication, application and passion give him an edge to his game many don't have. this, imo, is what has made him reach the level he's reached.


  • #117
    Anthony16
    Registered Users Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Anthony16


    Morzadec wrote: »
    As a Liverpool fan, I would have to say there is some strength to the argument that Fletcher is better than Mascherano and Barry. I think maybe it's an argument that can't be settled now, and would have to be reassessed at the end of the season, but it's not as ridiculous a claim as some might think.

    Not sure if this argument is relevant to the OP anyway, but to reiterate Fletcher is not the best midfielder in the Premiership nor will he ever be.


    Barry wouldnt lace their boots boy.Fletcher is nowhere near the best in the pl but hes very good.Better than mascherano going forward and miles ahead of barry defensively.Hel never have the creativity to be one of the best but most clubs would now have him in their team


  • #118
    Jax Teller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,763 ✭✭✭Jax Teller


    No way


  • #119
    SlickRic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,369 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    this is a lethargic start.

    the passing isn't quick enough, and the movement isn't sharp enough.

    brum are pressuring the ball quite well.


  • #120
    herbieflowers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭herbieflowers


    SlickRic wrote: »
    this is a lethargic start.

    the passing isn't quick enough, and the movement isn't sharp enough.

    brum are pressuring the ball quite well.

    Pool could definitely do with a Darren Fletcher. ;)


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  • #121
    The Muppet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,003 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    SlickRic wrote: »
    this is a lethargic start.

    the passing isn't quick enough, and the movement isn't sharp enough.

    brum are pressuring the ball quite well.
    Are you lost?:)


  • #122
    SlickRic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,369 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    The Muppet wrote: »
    Are you lost?:)

    yeah i actually got lost twice, but i deleted the second post.

    not sure what the f***'s happening.

    i blame rafa.

    why not.


  • #123
    Rob113
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Rob113


    I wouldnt be stupid enough to say hes the best in the EPL as there are obviously better players ahead of him but he is improving all the time and there are very few players in the league that get the better of him or dominate a game that he is playing against them. As a UTD fan i definitely breathe easier when i see his name on the teamsheet. He still has a way to go but if he keeps improving the way he is then he could go on to be as important to UTD as Keane was in a couple of years - i know ill prob be shot down for that comment but you cant fault the boys heart, commitment and increasingly his overall play. He never hides during the big games. He is definitely the most improved player in the EPL over the past couple of years.


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