Could this be right???

wiggy123

New Shed Available, total new facility for day to day B & B for cattle. Capacity for 100 cattle. Straw bedding & silage supplied, meal not supplied. €4.50 per animal per day.
Contact: John, Ph- 086-2527381, Co.Cork.

Seen this on another website, http://haybay.ie/

could the above man be realistic! like if had shed full--that would give him the guts of €3150 a week...
so say a 3-4 month wintering period,give this man! €40+k....nice earner if he did get it!
think its incorrectly typed...opinions???

red menace

4.50 x 7 x 100 = 1800 a week
1800 x 4 = 7200 a month assume in shed for 5 months (Nov to March)
7200 x 5 = 36000

Assume 100 euro and acre for silage
Prob need 70 acres
7,000 For the winter
Plus Fert 66 an acre
66 x 70 = 4620
Straw
100 bales
12 x 100 = 2000

7000 + 4620 +1200 = 12,820


The guys own labour and tractor and loader

Maybe 2 hours daily

2 x 25 x 7 = 350
350 x 4 x 5 = 7000

12 820 + 7,000 = 19,820

By the time you add in sundries water and electricity and misc would prob be 21,000 for the winter.

Plus if its a new shed I imagine it wasn't built from cash/savings so loans etc need to be serviced.
Repayments could be 600 - 700 a month easy enough. 3500 for the term of the hire


24,000 Total

36,000 - 24,000 = 12,000

12,000 / 5 = 2400 a month out of it


Them figures are fairly approx and prob missing loads like spreading dung and havent accounted for in there

Feel free to correct my homework folks

Hemlet

red menace wrote: »

4.50 x 7 x 100 = 1800 a week
1800 x 4 = 7200 a month assume in shed for 5 months (Nov to March)
7200 x 5 = 36000

Assume 100 euro and acre for silage
Prob need 70 acres
7,000 For the winter
Plus Fert 66 an acre
66 x 70 = 4620
Straw
100 bales
12 x 100 = 2000

7000 + 4620 +1200 = 12,820


The guys own labour and tractor and loader

Maybe 2 hours daily

2 x 25 x 7 = 350
350 x 4 x 5 = 7000

12 820 + 7,000 = 19,820

By the time you add in sundries water and electricity and misc would prob be 21,000 for the winter.

Plus if its a new shed I imagine it wasn't built from cash/savings so loans etc need to be serviced.
Repayments could be 600 - 700 a month easy enough. 3500 for the term of the hire


24,000 Total

36,000 - 24,000 = 12,000

12,000 / 5 = 2400 a month out of it


Them figures are fairly approx and prob missing loads like spreading dung and havent accounted for in there

Feel free to correct my homework folks

Nicely done Sir.

djmc

Out a bit
4.50x7x100 = 3150
but you should add rent value of land at least 100 an acre = 7000
which he could have to pay for silage ground or would get to let it

wiggy123

4.50 x 7 x 100 = 1800 a week (3150)
1800 x 4 = 7200 (12600)a month assume in shed for 5 months (Nov to March)
7200 x 5 = 36000 (63000)

Assume 100 euro and acre for silage
Prob need 70 acres
7,000 For the winter
Plus Fert 66 an acre
66 x 70 = 4620
Straw
100 bales
12 x 100 = 2000 ??? 1200...

7000 + 4620 +1200 = 12,820
(take shed is, a slatted shed)..so no need for straw! so price will be
what u puttin--3bags of fert... acre..2 be enough!it €12 to make the bale,its around €10 or less this year-from what i've seen!
be 7000+3080= 10,080..


The guys own labour and tractor and loader

Maybe 2 hours daily

2 x 25 x 7 = 350
350 x 4 x 5 = 7000

what is this about--how u work that out--2 equals 2hrs daily--the rest is what? diesel...

12 820 + 7,000 = 19,820 (be different-when add above-feed costs)

By the time you add in sundries water and electricity and misc would prob be 21,000 for the winter.

Plus if its a new shed I imagine it wasn't built from cash/savings so loans etc need to be serviced.
Repayments could be 600 - 700 a month easy enough. 3500 for the term of the hire


24,000 Total

36,000 - 24,000 = 12,000

12,000 / 5 = 2400 a month out of it

(if i go bye my ammended numbers wise...be €63000 (takings) - €22500(includes €3500,of repayments on shed-if so) = €40500 / 5 = €8100 a month, gd money!
so ur man renting the shed,would never even come close to that profit margin a month!


Them figures are fairly approx and prob missing loads like spreading dung and havent accounted for in there

Feel free to correct my homework folks

gd spreadsheet of costs--to me.theres a few errors--put them in red...sorry about that..
maybe i've done corrections incorrectly--apolyies if so!

kfk

Also take in to account that there is more than 4 weeks in a month. Only a few days but over 5 months it would come close to 2 extra weeks.

Sam Kade

Somehow I don't think he will have any takers. It would make more sense to sell your cattle at the begining of the winter and make a small profit instead of paying this man to keep them for the winter and make no profit.

reilig

Have a cousin who pays 50c per day with silage supplied for a slatted shed. Don't think the bedded should be too much more expensive than that.

red menace

I plucked all them figures from thin air so very possibly wrong...
two years since was near a farm... in IT fulltime could price a room full of Dell Precision 390s with 24" LCD panels handier these days.

BTW that haybay.ie is a bit of a mess very hard to navigate and user unfriendly doneddeal all the way for me

wiggy123

ah rite red..haha
agree there--haybay.is is all over the shop!
donedeal has improved greatly--easy to navigate,etc

agree wit ya Sam,ur man that owns the shed,in Cork will hav a long wait! as hes looking for way to much a head!
the old format use to be-from what i gather..B&B for cattle would be £1 and with feed by £1.50 a day!
so in euro's b about €1.20 and €1.80 a day now...no??
that was for slatted accomadation...as for straw shed--unsure!
i know-i'm payin 60c per head a day..hav me own silage!
i know the fella i hav shed off--2 yrs ago--was charging..€1.80 a head per day-he fed them!

but in saying that-hes a friend,fellow footballer!

i think at 60c to me is great value!

my rant over!