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Justified - [US] ** Spoilers **

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭budhabob


    Blazer wrote: »

    That looks good fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,872 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,872 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    I finished binge-watching this show having seen it recommended on here a while back. Loved it. Enjoyed all of the seasons.

    I like how characters that seemed peripheral at first ended up becoming some of my favourites. Like Mikey and Wynn Duffy's interactions, or the friendship between Dewey and Dickie.

    Raylan was a cool character to root for. I like how he's not presented as overpowered. He gets beat up a good few times. The relationship he has with his colleagues is understated and well done. I especially liked the interactions with Art.

    Boyd Crowder - definitely one of my favourite villains on a show. Steals almost every scene. Ava must be one of the most badass female characters on a show as well. Real survivor.

    I think my favourite episode was Season 3, episode 1. The ending of the final episode was satisfactory. Even though I would be keen on it coming back in some capacity, maybe it's best to leave it on a high.

    Overall, would highly recommend it if anyone still hasn't seen it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,096 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Amen

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    That's funny, happen to be doing a rewatch myself at the minute. Literally finished season 5 tonight. Had thought the bump might have been for a new series or spin off. Ah well!

    Agree with all the previous bar one: I don't root for Raylan cos my reading was basically how for all his badge legitimising his actions, he was just a big an a$$hole as his dad was. He could be mean, sometimes cruel and manipulative to get his man and never repentant. And everyone else suffers as a result of his actions - including his suffering boss Art (who's one of those fantastic side characters the show excelled at). His swaggering cool was beguiling but he was an awful person.

    Him and Boyd are very much two sides of the same coin and honestly I think I prefer Boyd on balance. Heroin dalliance aside he's a very charismatic, relatable "villain".

    In terms of season antagonists, the show never quite topped Mags Bennett, she and Margo Martindale's performance was just stellar. Limehouse maybe second. Season 5 was the weakest with the Crowes. It says a lot about the strength of those side characters though that a collosal neo nazi f*ck up like Dewie Crowe could be a sympathetic figure.

    Definitely one of the underrated gems of the 2010s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,096 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    I liked Raylan as a character but he definitely was prepared to throw anyone under the bus to get his way. Poor Ava a massive case in point. Not a sheet of paper between Boyd and Raylan really, but then they did dig coal together. Couldn't prefer Boyd to Raylan after the Dewey thing though.

    Still one of my favourite shows of all time I think.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭golfball37


    Watching Rake on Netflix and Dewie Crowe is an Australian police detective in it. I nearly fell off the chair. Looked him up online and he’s an Aussie!
    His accent in Justified is spot on.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    "You mean I got FOUR kidneys?"

    That episode still cracks me up thinking about, poor Dewey. You magnificent moron.

    Was a highly quotable show, my own favourite being a useful maxim for life: "You run into an a$$hole in the morning, you ran into an a$$hole. You run into a$$holes all day, you're the a$$hole."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭golfball37


    Raylan tossing a bullet to Duffy in the motor home asking him to talk or “the next one is coming a lot faster”

    Genius


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭billyhead


    Has anyone seen this and if so would you recommend it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Yes and yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,872 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    billyhead wrote: »
    Has anyone seen this and if so would you recommend it?

    YES YES YES YES YES YES 100% YES YES YES


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,974 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Yes and Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Did you get a notification that it's now on All4 too :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 881 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    For Walton Goggins as Boyd Crowder it's worth it alone. He steals every scene he is in. It's a class show and the seasons just fly by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Aurelian


    Excellent show but it really declined over the last few seasons...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Absolutely yes. Some great characters in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭billyhead


    Which season would be considered the best?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭golfball37


    billyhead wrote: »
    Which season would be considered the best?

    Season 2 for me is the best by some distance. It’s like picking out a favorite child however. It’s the funniest of all the recent great dramas of the box set era and the dialogue is the wittiest and sharpest of all of them.
    I agree the later stuff isn’t as good but the finale was a great pay off


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Francescoli


    Brilliant show,it tailed off towards the end but it was at a very high level for a long time.

    Raylan and Boyd are two great characters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,096 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    I thought they finished it brilliantly, very satisfying the way it ended. It's worse seasons (and I enjoyed them all) still a country mile better than most other shows on television. The main characters, the supporting characters, the setting, the storylines. Fantastic.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Which season is best? They're all fantastic, except for Season 5 that was merely OK.


  • Registered Users Posts: 125 ✭✭Godeatsboogers


    Enjoyed season 1, loved season 2 and 3, Dickie Bennett, hilarious. Enjoyed Season 4, loved Boyd in s 5, but the storyline wasnt as good as usual. Season 6 was just epic, really enjoyed it 'Son, are you real smart or real stupid', the delivery by Raylan was perfect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,159 ✭✭✭frag420


    Rewatched it when lockdown kicked in.

    Worth it for the dialogue alone.

    Walton Goggins was a choice picK for this, and to think he was only meant to be in the pilot but the feedback on his character Boyd was too good so they had to keep him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,872 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    golfball37 wrote: »
    Season 2 for me is the best by some distance. It’s like picking out a favorite child however. It’s the funniest of all the recent great dramas of the box set era and the dialogue is the wittiest and sharpest of all of them.
    I agree the later stuff isn’t as good but the finale was a great pay off

    Mags Bennett played by Margo Martindale what a baddie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭golfball37


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Mags Bennett played by Margo Martindale what a baddie

    I think she won an Emmy for her performance? She was excellent, the whole storyline in season 2 was brilliant


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Just finishing up season 6 at the moment myself. Aside from its great lead characters, the one thing Justified always had above most TV shows was how well written it's "once off" characters could be.

    All those passing gun thugs, Harlan locals or whatnot often had the right tincture of personality and character to make them memorable. From Quarells to "Choo-choo", they stuck in your head. The dialogue and turn of phrase fantastic, you could tell this originated from an Elmore Leonard story.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Mags Bennett played by Margo Martindale what a baddie
    You mean Acclaimed Character Actress Margo Martindale right? And yes, she was one of my favoruite antagonists, alongside of course Boyd.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,872 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Kaitlyn Dever who played Loretta seems to be doing well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 473 ✭✭nuttyboy79


    Timothy Olyphant is brilliant in this I thought he'd a real Gary Cooper/John Wayne swagger to him all cowboy all the time.
    Walton Goggins absolutely chewed up the scenery as Boyd sometimes I thought he'd lose track of his point when he started a sentence but he never did.
    Most of the recurring characters were excellent as well I had a particular fondness for Dewey Crowe reminds me of my dog a dumb sh!t that just wants his ear scratched.
    A cracking show that kept motoring all the way through six seasons with only a few splutters. It ended in a nice way too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,096 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    To celebrate the 10th anniversary of the wonder that is Justified pajiba have an overview. Lots of spoilers, very long, and bits I don't necessarily completely agree with but they clearly have as much love for the show as I (and suspect most here) do.

    https://www.pajiba.com/tv_reviews/justified-10th-anniversary-of-a-harlan-county-war-between-two-men-who-dug-coal-together.php

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭heebusjeebus


    The Justified showrunner might be turning another Elmore Leonard Novel into a TV show and Raylan Givens might be the protagonist:

    https://www.polygon.com/tv/22336493/timothy-olyphant-raylan-givens-justified-new-show

    I'd 100% watch this.
    I started a Justified re-watch last week. Already up to episode 10 of season 2. The characters and interactions are amazing and it holds up so well.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Easily one of the best shows of the 2010s, no question, yet curiously goes unheralded in Best Of lists.

    As to a new show, if they want to deviate from the book and bring in Raylan, I am all over that. Loved how brazen The Mandalorian simply made Timothy Olyphant space-Raylan in his appearance (albeit with the àsshole dialled back a notch or two)


  • Registered Users Posts: 585 ✭✭✭the heathen


    I'd 100% watch this. I started a Justified re-watch last week. Already up to episode 10 of season 2. The characters and interactions are amazing and it holds up so well.

    I'm on a bit of a re-watch at the moment myself - such an entertaining show.

    I'm on season 3 at the moment - Neal McDonough is so good as Robert Quarles.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,974 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


     Justified: City Primeval

    Justified: City Primeval finds Raylan still living in Miami, to which he relocated in the series finale. A walking anachronism balancing his life as a U.S. Marshal and part-time father of his 14-year-old daughter with Winona, “his hair is grayer, his hat is dirtier, and the road in front of him is suddenly a lot shorter than the road behind,” the synopsis tells us.

    A chance encounter on a desolate Florida highway leads Raylan to Detroit, where he crosses paths with Clement Mansell aka “The Oklahoma Wildman,” a violent, sociopathic desperado who’s already slipped through the fingers of Detroit’s finest once — and aims to do so again. Mansell’s lawyer, Motor City native Carolyn Wilder, has every intention of representing her client even as she finds herself caught between a cop and a criminal, with her own game afoot as well. “These three characters set out on a collision course in classic Elmore Leonard fashion, to see who makes it out of the City Primeval alive.”

    Given that Raylan is not a character in the source material, it appears he will in some ways supplant the novel’s protagonist, homicide Detective Raymond Cruz.

    Dave Andron and Michael Dinner, who were executive producers on the OG Justified, will serve are showrunners, writers and EPs, with Dinner directing. Olyphant will also carry an EP credit, as will previous showrunner Graham Yost (among others.)





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭Heckler


    Holy **** ! Never thought we might see Raylan on screen again. Great news.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Well shít. That's just gone made my day. Though Justified without Boyd Crowder and the brilliant Kentuckian ensemble might be weird for a spell.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,019 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    WooHoooooo, great news but I am a bit worried about them ruining the legacy, Boyd/Walton Goggins was the star of the show for me



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Oh yeah, he and Ava were, by the end, the true protagonists of the show. While the central thesis - IMO - was that while both Boyd and Raylan were àssholes, Boyd had it beaten into him by his environment and circumstance. Raylan was always a mean àsshole like his dad; leaving Kentucky didn't change a thing. A new series would do well to remember that he's no hero; not really.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,019 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    I must watch it again, but his introduction in Miami was 1 of the best introductions of a character ever. Saying that I'm probably biased as I'm a major Olyphant fanboy, I even re-watched Hitman recently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭Heckler


    That was a great introduction. Badass as fcuk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Delighted to hear this. What would this likely be on? Disney Plus? Prime?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    Justified is currently on Prime, but who knows. I notice a number of FX shows on Prime, but none I have seen are currently running shows.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,872 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Quentin Tarantino linked to direct



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Boyd Crowder is probably our of the running but wonder what odds you'd get some of Givens' old colleagues having a cameo or two. Rachel seemed destined to head the Marshalls, I'd not be surprised if she's far ahead of Raylan in this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    Vulture article from a while back was update with this info recently.

    When will Justified: City Primeval be released?

    It’s slated to premiere in summer 2023 on FX.

    https://www.vulture.com/2023/02/justified-spinoff-city-primeval-timothy-olyphant-details.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,630 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Wondering if that suggests it's likely to pop up on Disney+. I've been debating whether to renew my subscription and if I could see that on it that would be a big draw for me.



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