Best Irish Players of Each Character?

Dreddybajs

Just wondering who everyone thinks that the best players of every character in SF4 are - I'd imagine there'll be general consent from the outset, but I'm not aiming to start a flame war here so everybody be chill.

Anyway here'd be my opinions - just basing these on people I've played against, not including people who I haven't:

Ryu: Mike Guilfoyle/Newtype
Honda: A-Trak
Blanka: bush
Guile: Doom
Abel: Kiki
C. Viper: The Witch xx
Ken: Ramza
Chun-Li: bush (edit: not putting Simon Guilfoyle down as I haven't gotten the chance to play him)
Dhalsim: Kirby
Rufus: Not sure (edit: probably bush, forgot he played Rufus)
El Fuerte: Chopper
Balrog: Ropedrink (haven't had a chance to play Darktalent? not sure on the name, blonde hair and glasses, seems quite good)
Vega: Owmykneecap (haven't played a big irish man/ken b yet)
Sagat: Nope...Can't think of anyone... :pac: (animaX)
Bison: Probably blag though I have a lot more experience vs Azza's Bison and I'd consider them equally able to kick my ass
Sakura: Yreval
Akuma: FoamyMushroom
Seth: Azza (though he's the only person I'm aware of that messes around with him)
Gen: Azza
Rose: Azza
Cammy: Have only played Jim I think, have heard Cobelcog is very good though
Fei Long: John Lundy/Liquidswords
Gouken: animaX (can't think of anyone that plays him a lot though)
Dan: Azza

Have left my own character (Zangief) out since I don't think I'd be a fair judge.

Doctor DooM

Dreddybajs wrote: »

El Fuerte: Not sure

Chopper plays a mean el fuerte..

Dreddybajs wrote: »

Rose: Azza (only Rose player I think?)

Chopper also played Rose for a while...

You got a problem with Chopper? :d

BTW you easily have the nastiest Irish Gief.

Dreddybajs

Oh yeah forgot Chopper played Fuerte actually. Will edit (from what I've played Azza's Rose is imo better but haven't played Chopper's in ages).

edit: and cheers, only other Irish Gief I've played is Icarian and the mirror matchup is hardly representative of the player so I don't feel qualified to judge.

Placebo

self praise thread..........?

Doctor DooM

Placebo wrote: »

self praise thread..........?

Naaah. it's for you to praise me.

Dreddybajs

Placebo wrote: »

self praise thread..........?

Not at all, even if people do post me it's not exactly a huge accolade as I can only think of 3 Irish Giefs anyway - in fact I'd love to see more in order to be able to have more opportunities to discuss matchups and tips etc. at meets (this is the same for most characters I think - take Kirby, he's obviously a great player, but being called "the best Irish Dhalsim" doesn't actually reflect that as he may as well be the only Irish Sim player)! I made the thread because I'm interested to see if there's general agreement between the members of the Irish scene as to who's currently the best practitioner of each character.

L31mr0d

CodeMonkey has a pretty mean Vega and Gouken.

Neptune/Creature is also very good with Balrog.

Don't really see the purpose of this thread though personally (not bitter, honest, Foamy is a better Akuma ). Everything that it could accomplish can be done with the seeding thread imo.

Oh and:

Zangief: Dreddybajs

Doctor DooM

[SERIOUS]Also, this thread handily tells me who I need to track down and practice against.[/SERIOUS]

Doctor DooM

L31mr0d wrote: »

Everything that it could accomplish can be done with the seeding thread imo.

I think we should have a stickied seeding thread.

Doctor DooM

RopeDrink wrote: »

Well I doubt I slot in anywhere on the meter as far as Rog is concerned, just that I made a point of getting out there and throwing my movies all over the place.

Surely there's a lot of other Irish Rog players but I've not encountered a single one (at least as far as Online is concerned). Keep in mind that anyone with Offline experience/playtime will kick my teeth in.

Ironically when I went down to make a cup of tea earlier on I had this weird notion of what it'd be like to field an Irish SF4 team (Strange, aye, I know).

I watch tonnes of tournament movies and often get really into the 5v5 style of matches so it's common for me to think, mmmm, what if?

Not weird at all. Imagine Azza and Bush on a team. "Team utter bastard".

bush

Chun li should be simon guilfoyle, mine isnt great at all.

Doctor DooM

bush wrote: »

Chun li should be simon guilfoyle, mine isnt great at all.

To be fair that's a great Chun to watch.

Dreddybajs

L31mr0d wrote: »

CodeMonkey has a pretty mean Vega and Gouken.

Neptune/Creature is also very good with Balrog.

Don't really see the purpose of this thread though personally (not bitter, honest, Foamy is a better Akuma ). Everything that it could accomplish can be done with the seeding thread imo.

Cool, haven't played Codemonkey - forgot Creature but from the games I've played against him I'd say Ropedrink does better at the Gief matchup at least. Also I'd love to get some sets in with your Akuma dude, honestly I wouldn't be able to accurately judge between ye two as I haven't played more than a few games with you, while I've played a good bit more with Foamy (though still not all that much, just relatively)!

As for the purpose of the thread I think that this post alone proves it - had no idea about Codemonkey playing Gouken and that's a matchup I need serious practice in, so I'd love to get some games in with him in future. Up to the mods though as to whether the thread serves a purpose or not.

edit: Yeah bush I didn't put Simon down as I haven't played him, and the last time I saw him play was at the very first (or maybe third?) XGC tourney. Another guy I'd love to get games in but I don't think the Guilfoyle brothers play online so there are few opportunities.

Doctor DooM

Dreddybajs wrote: »

Up to the mods though as to whether the thread serves a purpose or not.

There's already been a couple of interesting posts. Lets see where it goes. I'm not about stamping down on threads without a reason.

Dreddybajs

RopeDrink wrote: »

Well I doubt I slot in anywhere on the meter as far as Rog is concerned, just that I made a point of getting out there and throwing my movies all over the place.

I'm not taking your movies into account, just the games I've played with you.

edit after deleted double post:

Doctor DooM wrote: »

There's already been a couple of interesting posts. Lets see where it goes. I'm not about stamping down on threads without a reason.

I don't think a seeding thread fulfills the same purpose as I've never seen that Codemonkey guy (for example) at a meet, so I'd never have heard of him in a seeding thread.

Doctor DooM

RopeDrink wrote: »

Aye matey, "Bastard Coated Bastards" - Who was the Blanka player who made me nerdrage like a petty schoolgirl? Christ I can't stand that snot goblin at all and the person in question literally made me feel embarassed to call myself a SF4 player.

Have you seen the videos of Bush and I while he was playing Rufus?

I nearly took a round off him. Nearly.

Boomer (or maybe just me) has a hard time with Rufus at the best of times. I need more of that match up.

I have to say, fighting Bush' Rufus is the hardest human fight I've ever had in a fighting game ever.

Funnily enough I had practiced Blanka in preparation of fighting him again and reckon I could give him a game. So he never f$%king picked him

Dreddybajs

Out of the characters you listed Ropedrink, only Azza's Gen is available to play on PC from the people I listed (unless bush has the pc version but I thought he just had ps3 and xbox).

edit: And yeah there are a few other solid Irish Balrogs, I think out of all of them I've played you've done the best against my Gief though, which is what I was basing it on. Obviously when you take other matchups into account things can change, which is why it's nice to get other opinions (eg. maybe Creature has a better Balrog overall but I was just thinking of how you and him played vs my Gief) - also obviously time changes things and I think it'd be cool to see how people improve over time in this thread, maybe through posts where people have changed their mind and now consider X player's Dan better than Y's or whatever.

chopperbyrne

Doctor DooM wrote: »

Chopper plays a mean el fuerte..

I really don't.

Anyone with the slightest experience against Fuerte will easily beat mine.

I gave up on Rose very quickly, so I'm sure Azza is better than me with her.

I'd say Cunny is just as good with Ryu as Mike.

Leprekaun

In fairness, I see blag as a better Bison than Azza. Azza and I have had some close matches while whenever I played blag, I couldn't get a round off him. Although it could be that I'm not use to blag's style which is why I do feck all against him.


I demand that Retro be defined as top Ryu player!

Xinkai

Man you forget about me! The only Ryu V Ryu match i've ever lost at casuals is VS Leprikaun. I also main Sakura, but she's improving atm & easy to beat when in my hands i admit.

Akuma = FoamyMushroom, but he needs to stop wasting his EX bars.
Gief = Dreddy
Sim = Kirby
Bison = Azza
Viper = Witch
Blanka = Sagat08

That's all i can think about for now, OH Also Sagat = Everyone

Doctor DooM

Xinkai wrote: »

Man you forget about me! The only Ryu V Ryu match i've ever lost at casuals is VS Leprikaun. I also main Sakura, but she's improving atm & easy to beat when in my hands i admit.

You've never met Mike Guilfoyle then.

Sagat06

A big Irish Man is comfortably the strongest Irish Vega I've come up against.

The argument for Azza or Blag is a good one, I think Azza is more match up specific whereas Blag has a great fundamental understanding!!

Ropedrink is honestly the only Irish boxer I've come up against. You played my Blanka a couple of months ago and I have to say you were pretty solid in the match up.

Dreddybajs

Xinkai you have a good Ryu but nowhere near as good as Mike from what I've seen (that said I haven't seen Mike play in ages nor have I played against him in ages).

Agreed that Cunny has a very good Ryu as well.

edit: Must get some games against you Sagat06, don't think we've played? Meant to at the last casuals we were both at but you headed off before I got the chance.

fake_roogle

Sakura: Yreval? (not sure on name but one of the NI players)

Yeah, that's Yreval.

Fei Long: NI player I am unsure of the name of?

John Lundy/LiquidSwords.

Rufus: Not sure (edit: probably bush, forgot he played Rufus)

I've never seen any other Rufus (then again I've only been down to XGC once) but it's Dan/V-DecK's main.

Dreddybajs

Ah, forgot VDeck, apologies. Last time I played him though was (I think) the first XGC tourney, so I don't really have any idea how good he is now. Cheers for the names, will edit my list!

Cunny-Funt

I've a long way to go before I'm anywhere here, I don't know a lot of match ups. I'm too clumsy and I'm not patient enough. I've only more recently gotten to the stage of thinking I wanna actually truly learn the game to win.. so far its just been an fun online game I love playing. Hence why I play so many characters, I don't have the mentality of picking a main and aiming to dominate with him.

But I'm getting into the idea of a more competitive nature and I find it's good craic anyways, with such a sound community. I don't mind losing but I'd like to at least make the other guy work for his win.

Who is Mike Guilfoyle again, is he one of the northern irish players? I did see a damn good ryu player when they were down at one of the XGC tournies so I'll assume its him. He was deffo miles better then me from watching him play, miles.

Xinkai you've not played me either btw

**edit** ropey if you wanna start being considered one of the best irish rog players, show up to a tourney or a casual

Azza

Well my list would be like this.

Abel= KO.KiKi
Akuma=Foamymushroom
Balrog=Fake Roogle
Blanka=Bush, although the guys up north would be strongly in favor of Simon Lau.
C.Viper= The Witch
Cammy=Cobelcog
Chun-Li= Bush, Simon Guilfoyle no longer players.
Dan=Played no Irish players.
Dhalsim=Kirby
E.Honda=Bush
El Fuerte=Not played any Irish players.
Fei-Long=John Lundy
Gen=Played no Irish Players
Gouken=Not played any Irish players.
Guile=SDoom
Ken= Not played any Irish Ken players, would imagine Mike Guilfoyle would be top of the pile.
M.Bison=Blag
Rose-Not played any Irish players.
Rufus=Bush
Ryu= Mike Guilfoyle
Sagat=Animax
Sakura=Not played anyone but I assume its Yerval.
Seth=Not played any Irish players.
Vega=Ken B
Zangief=Dreddybajs

Dreddybajs

Didn't know bush played Honda as well...feckin charge characters. :pac:

Doctor DooM

fake_roogle wrote: »

Yeah, that's Yreval.

John Lundy/LiquidSwords.

I've never seen any other Rufus (then again I've only been down to XGC once) but it's Dan/V-DecK's main.

Not to insult V Deck at all but I've fought both and Bush's Rufus is pure liquid evil.


V decks is great too, but Bushes is a beast.

Leprekaun

Have to say, Daniel (not sure, he's VDeck, yeah? One of the dudes from the north) had a nasty Rufus from what I've seen. I'm really curious to see how I'd compare against everyone now as I've developed almost a completely different play style that at least against my bro looks very successful . I've gone back to maining Ken with Akuma/Bison being my secondary characters although I probably play better with Akuma over Bison. I'm steadily trying to improve my game with Akuma to make him my best as the only way to win is to truly embrace the Dark Hadou!!!

Doctor DooM

RopeDrink wrote: »

Personally ultimately I'm not interested in competing or anything and I won't be able to make any of the events.

Ah it's more about cameradariririririiririe than competition for me