Microsoft to ban 1million xbox users

racso1975

http://e-edition.metroireland.ie/2009/11/12/index.html?p=1

just a heads up

Maybe a slight over reaction by Raz

amacachi

Deserve it for stupidity tbh.

RobertFoster

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Penn

Yup, totally deserved it. Don't do the crime if you want to play online

amacachi

RobertFoster wrote: »

You have to enter your email in order to read that article.

Correction: an e-mail address.

TouchingVirus

racso1975 wrote: »

http://e-edition.metroireland.ie/2009/11/12/index.html?p=1

just a heads up

Maybe a slight over reaction by Raz

Thread in console modding.

I got banned. If you can't do the time don't do the crime and all that.

I care not about having no more xbox live, but an xbox live ban should NOT result in Microsoft disabling a feature that has nothing to do with XBOX live (Banned users with the latest dashboard cannot install games to their hard drive). This is the most significant thing for me and has truly pwned a lot of people.

/V\etalfish

It's been all over Google news this morning too, here's another link http://www.pcworld.com/article/182010/microsoft_bans_up_to_one_million_users_from_xbox_live.html

tman

TouchingVirus wrote: »

Thread in console modding.

I got banned. If you can't do the time don't do the crime and all that.

I care not about having no more xbox live, but an xbox live ban should NOT result in Microsoft disabling a feature that has nothing to do with XBOX live (Banned users with the latest dashboard cannot install games to their hard drive). This is the most significant thing for me and has truly pwned a lot of people.

They should be even more strict imo and brick the consoles...
Should teach the cheeky bastards for playing online with pirated games

Overature

RobertFoster wrote: »

You have to enter your email in order to read that article.

just put in a random one

AdMMM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_10000000/newsid_10002900/10002915.stm

BBC story which highlights the tragic story of Raz!

amacachi

tman wrote: »

They should be even more strict imo and brick the consoles...
Should teach the cheeky bastards for playing online with pirated games

I'm 50-50 on whether they should have bricked the consoles tbh. Really is nothing short of cheeky putting them online though. No sympathy.

DOC09UNAM

Serves em right really, cheat and get caught, and you get f*cked like you should do.

mikemac

Proper order.

If you were messing with the console then you knew the risks and this was always going to happen some day

chalkitdown

Have heard that there is new firmware on the way next week to combat this.

godtabh

if you get banned from live is it your account that gets banned or is it your xbox itself?

TouchingVirus

kearnsr wrote: »

if you get banned from live is it your account that gets banned or is it your xbox itself?

You get console banned. Recover your gamertag to another console (because the one on the banned console will be corrupt) and play away. You will lose acheivements earned since you last connected to Live.

TouchingVirus

chalkitdown wrote: »

Have heard that there is new firmware on the way next week to combat this.

It's on hold. Nobody has any idea how Microsoft detected firmware. But this is a discussion best left for the modding forum

godtabh

TouchingVirus wrote: »

You get console banned. Recover your gamertag to another console (because the one on the banned console will be corrupt) and play away. You will lose acheivements earned since you last connected to Live.

Ah ok. So is it through the MAC address they ban you?

TouchingVirus

kearnsr wrote: »

Ah ok. So is it through the MAC address they ban you?

ConsoleID, which is built on your manufacturing date & MAC address. Hard/Impossible to spoof and get away with

James Howlett

AdMMM wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_10000000/newsid_10002900/10002915.stm

BBC story which highlights the tragic story of Raz!

Raz; "I was pulling my hair out thinking, 'No, why me?'"

Seriously? Seriously? Raz goes on to say games are too expensive and that he saved himself up to £600 by having his console chipped. This is a 25 year old stating these facts and still has to ask "Why me?"

A day in a medieval stocks outta sort him out.

yoyo

chalkitdown wrote: »

Have heard that there is new firmware on the way next week to combat this.

Didn't this happen the last several times? How hard would it be for microsoft to slip in a update which will read the firmware directly off the dvd drive, if it is modified Microsoft should be able to see this easily, as they would have checksum matches of official factory firmwares and could compare them to the modified ones, just a thought..

Nick

consultech

yoyo wrote: »

Didn't this happen the last several times? How hard would it be for microsoft to slip in a update which will read the firmware directly off the dvd drive, if it is modified Microsoft should be able to see this easily, as they would have checksum matches of official factory firmwares and could compare them to the modified ones, just a thought..

Nick

They can. They will always be able to. They built the machine ffs.

The reason they don't insta-ban people for having a modded f/w is that it is a very finely balanced cash cow for M$. They ban in waves, same time every year, to generate christmas sales of new xboxes. They flag people throughout the year and drop the "ban hammer" over a 72 hour period. Same thing every year. I was banned on Monday, but I was probably flagged a couple of months ago. The reason they don't insta-ban is they would kill the modding scene. They let people play away all year in their false sense of security, paying a year's XBL membership each as they do. They make millions from modders, without it costing them a whole lot.

So I'll wait for this to blow over, buy a new xbox and get the new firmware, and play for another year unperturbed. I know this because M$ is a money-hungry kunt who don't give a shíte about the games developers who piracy actually hurts; moreover they just want to make 10% extra per year in new console sales to banned users. That's why it's no surprise that they haven't banned Xbox Live ID's, leaving every user with a reason to rebuy a new console.

The way I see it, €120 per year for a new console isn't bad for 50 odd games.

amacachi

consultech wrote: »

They can. They will always be able to. They built the machine ffs.

The reason they don't insta-ban people for having a modded f/w is that it is a very finely balanced cash cow for M$. They ban in waves, same time every year, to generate christmas sales of new xboxes. They flag people throughout the year and drop the "ban hammer" over a 72 hour period. Same thing every year. I was banned on Monday, but I was probably flagged a couple of months ago.

So I'll wait for this to blow over, buy a new xbox and get the new firmware, and play for another year unperturbed. I know this because M$ is a money-hungry kunt who don't give a shíte about the games developers who piracy actual hurts; moreover they just want to make 10% extra per year in new console sales to banned users. That's why it's no surprise that they haven't banned Xbox Live ID's, leaving every user with a reason to rebuy a new console.

The way I see it, €120 per year for a new console isn't bad for 50 odd games.

LOL. So what should MS do if they do care about developers? Ban you straightaway? It's almost like they're trying to make money off the console, the ****ers.

I miss the days when games consoles manufacturers weren't about the money, they just wanted to bring a little happiness to the world.

rizzla

consultech wrote: »

I know this because M$ is a money-hungry kunt who don't give a shíte about the games developers who piracy actually hurts.

I think you just insulted yourself there too, since you admit to pirating games.

You guys get what you deserve if your console gets banned.

consultech

amacachi wrote: »

LOL. So what should MS do if they do care about developers? Ban you straightaway? It's almost like they're trying to make money off the console, the ****ers.

Basically, yeah. If they cared about the development houses they would act immediately, but cost themselves millions... So they won't be doing that anytmie soon. The people who modify their xboxes are never gonna pay full whack, for anything, and M$ have accepted that. It's like a nightclub letting people in when they know they're sneakin a naggin in in their handbag/pocket. They might as well make the cover charge, cloakroom fee, and mixer costs from them, otherwise they won't come at all. If M$ banned immediately these people would just stop playing xbox, coz they've obviously gone to some bother not to pay full price for the games.

consultech

rizzla wrote: »

I think you just insulted yourself there too, since you admit to pirating games.

You guys get what you deserve if your console gets banned.

Well spotted... No flies on you.

EDIT: ... and if we're being technical; No I didn't. I simply stated I was banned - for what violation of terms I didn't say - then expressed an opinion on the thought process behind a "pirate"'s (ARRRR) actions. Never once did I discuss doing anything illegal personally.

amacachi

consultech wrote: »

Basically, yeah. If they cared about the development houses they would act immediately, but cost themselves millions... So they won't be doing that anytmie soon. The people who modify their xboxes are never gonna pay full whack, for anything, and M$ have accepted that. It's like a nightclub letting people in when they know they're sneakin a naggin in in their handbag/pocket. They might as well make the cover charge, cloakroom fee, and mixer costs from them, otherwise they won't come at all. If M$ banned immediately these people would just stop playing xbox, coz they've obviously gone to some bother not to pay full price for the games.

And just how much do MS actually make from the sale of a new console?

consultech

amacachi wrote: »

And just how much do MS actually make from the sale of a new console?

If it's sold to the retailer at ~€180 for full Elite set; I would imagine somewhere around €150-160? I dunno, I'm open to correction on this from someone who knows (unlikely tbh). Factor in XBL etc and it's a few quid per modder.

Jet Black

He said 'I sign in online next thing I see your console has been banned'. I was destraught at the time. I was completely gutted. Its like telling someone their dog just died

:rolleyes:

robinph

consultech wrote: »

If it's sold to the retailer at ~€180 for full Elite set; I would imagine somewhere around €150-160? I dunno, I'm open to correction on this from someone who knows (unlikely tbh). Factor in XBL etc and it's a few quid per modder.

Well I guess if they are making the XBox for as little as $20 then that may explain some of the manufacturing faults.

murfie

AdMMM wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/technology/newsid_10000000/newsid_10002900/10002915.stm

BBC story which highlights the tragic story of Raz!

That article is hilarious, poor Raz. I feel bad for him :rolleyes: