SICK OF THE SOUTH

collegemum

CamperMan wrote: »

feck off and live up north!!!

very constructive :rolleyes:

Mr NoTV

viking wrote: »

Ehhh... what? "...grocery prices in French Supermarkets are a fraction of the price over here"??? I call Bull **** unless you can provide me with some clear examples of fractional French pricing! Having shopped in Supermarkets in France (Bordeaux region specifically), prices are certainly not a "fraction" of the prices here.

JP Chenet Merlot. Auchan, €1.85 - Dunnes, €7.49 - per bottle.
Coffee is a fraction of the price (eg. ground Lavazza 4 packs for €6). Dairy, veg and bakery (eg. 10 real pain au chocolat €2.20) are very well priced. The French excel in cuisine and demand to be fed at affordable prices. Meat is similarly priced to Eire.
Clothing is dear but beautifully styled. Shoes are prohibitive as is underwear. Hats are stunning, well priced, chic and actually fit!

I shop there and have no qualms about it having just brought back 12 bottles of Chenet plus others, along with a car stacked with 6 months supply of items I cannot get here or are too expensive to contemplate. It was a good day out too. C'est la Vie.

Cicero

I know there are issues such as higher wages, VAT, rent insurance etc for ROI retailers so not going there on that point....how and ever....
On the 27th, I ventured into our beloved capital (sorry, no not Cork:)) and to a very established dept store loved and trusted for generations (yes, the one that was opened on Stephens day by those terrible twins)....their clothes stock was very limited, and I had trouble spending EUR140 in the store...I went north a few days later and got the rest of what I needed, at up to 50% less....all I can say is I did try, but limited stock in a sale is an unforgiveable mistake in these times.....ya got one chance and one chance only to keep a customer...:(

RGS

It is clear that doing business in ROI is dearer than NI examples:
1-Minimum Wage higher here than NI
2-Rent higher
3-Inurance Higher--mainly due to excessive Injury awards for minor accident claims.

So we must factor in approx. 20-25% for the additional costs of doing business in ROI.
Shopping in the north is not helping this economy and will only result in more cuts to SW, cuts to hospital services, more unemployed etc., due to less government income from VAT, PAYE and other income streams.

carla30

CamperMan wrote: »

feck off and live up north!!!

No need to be so rude:rolleyes:i just wanted to know about other peoples opinions.if you're gonna be like that,don't bother leaving any comments.:cool:

RiverWilde

Well I've said this before on many similar threads .... I will continue to do my shopping in the North until the shops in the South match and/or beat Northern shops accross the board. I see no reason why I should pay more for identical goods that are a short journey away by car.

I think it is perverse that I can buy goods online and have them shipped in cheaper than it is to buy them locally - I'm referring to boots in this case. I was able to buy myself a very nice pair of boots online recently and they were shipped in from the UK and worked out a good £50 cheaper (including postage) than my local shoe shop.

I can take my family on a day out to a Northern town - spend the day wandering around the shops - find a restaurant/coffee shop and have lunch and then do a very large shop in ASDA and Iceland etc etc and SAVE money.

To my mind Southern shops can either drop their prices and improve their customer relations (because too many shops in the South simply do not appreciate the customers they have) or go out of business.

In the end it's their decision to make.

Riv

nobeastsofierce

To all the people whining about higher prices here in the 26 counties, how many of you are working, and would be earning less in the UK? how many of you are unemployed, and would be getting less dole in the UK?

This thread is about Eire/UK, no reason to dilute it comparing Eire/France, certainly start a thread on that, but they are very different beasts, unless you are just looking to rip on our economy in general.

Basic economics state price will rise and fall until supply matches demand.

Or a question: How many of you would be willing to have your income cut to UK levels, for UK prices? Certainly not me, for one

chapelgate

Well, that last comment answers it all.
The South have been paid too much for too long and that has allowed prices to escalate uncontrolled. Greed accelerates greed and the foolish have been happy to pay these inflated prices without question. Now that the money isn't so freely available, the shops are reluctant to come down from their golden pedestal or stock goods that they consider you don't want. Understandably, the shoppers are prepared to go elsewhere. My income is already at UK levels, always has been - I live within my means and to be honest don't care where I shop. I am not loyal to greedy shopkeepers and care not for living the Southern dream of easy rich pickings with an extravagant expenditure. Hold onto your precious high wages if you wish - just don't complain when prices rise again - which they will !

transylman

Had a value meal in McDonalds at Dublin airport and was shocked to see it cost 6 euro. Is that the price in all McDonalds in the country now? You can get a value meal in a British McDonalds for around £3.70 which works out at €4.10. Thats almost a third less than the irish price. :eek:

parsi

In a British airport ?

transylman

No, normal street version. I'm just wondering if the dublin airport price is the same as the irish street price.

nobeastsofierce

chapelgate wrote: »

Well, that last comment answers it all.
The South have been paid too much for too long and that has allowed prices to escalate uncontrolled. Greed accelerates greed and the foolish have been happy to pay these inflated prices without question. Now that the money isn't so freely available, the shops are reluctant to come down from their golden pedestal or stock goods that they consider you don't want. Understandably, the shoppers are prepared to go elsewhere. My income is already at UK levels, always has been - I live within my means and to be honest don't care where I shop. I am not loyal to greedy shopkeepers and care not for living the Southern dream of easy rich pickings with an extravagant expenditure. Hold onto your precious high wages if you wish - just don't complain when prices rise again - which they will !

I am not, nor have I ever claimed to be, on a high wage by Irish standards. I am working in retail.
What sector are you working in Chapelgate, where your wage has been on par with the UK for the past several years?

EDIT: am rereading your post.
"The south" has been paid nothing. People working in the south have been able to command higher wages, because of the basics of economics. Supply and demand decide wages, just as much as prices

marinbike

RGS wrote: »

It is clear that doing business in ROI is dearer than NI examples:
1-Minimum Wage higher here than NI
2-Rent higher
3-Inurance Higher--mainly due to excessive Injury awards for minor accident claims.

So we must factor in approx. 20-25% for the additional costs of doing business in ROI.
Shopping in the north is not helping this economy and will only result in more cuts to SW, cuts to hospital services, more unemployed etc., due to less government income from VAT, PAYE and other income streams.

The Government has reduced the VAT by 0.5% and the Retailers are not passing this saving on to their customers. The Irish Retailers are very reluctant to lower their prices anyway. So you deserve the loose business to the north. Thats the benefit of having open borders in the European Union. It allows people to shop around for REAL offers, not stingy sales like the ones here in the Republic.

Its up to the retailers to re-negotiate their rent prices and to shop around for cheaper insurance. Adopt the Ryanair approach to the way you operate.

marinbike

mcaul wrote: »

then enjoy the lower prices in Northern Irelandd while they last (sterling will recover at some stage)

The currency experts have predicted Sterling will reach parity with the Euro this year. Very unlikely will it recover to the 2006/07 levels unless something radical happens. Even if it does recover, the difference between Northern/Republic retail prices will still be gigantic.

Good news for the customers as the Irish retailers will no longer be able to rip us off, period! In a way, the northern exodus acts as a watchdog on the retailers here in the Republic.