Best world 11 in football

flahavaj · 15-11-2009 3:41am

Bubs101 wrote: »

If I were to pick my team based on this season's form it'd be something like this
Buffon

Maicon----Chiellini---Terry---Cole

Messi---Essien---Fabregas---Ronaldo

----Cassano
Ibra

Would have doubts whether Ronaldo and Cassano could work together but anybody who's seen Sampdoria this season must agree that Cassano in a 5 star team would be lovely stuff altogether and Cassano and Ibra interplay would be glorious

Not enough Serie A players in that Bubs. Do you even watch it?:pac:

flahavaj · 15-11-2009 3:44am

Xavi6 wrote: »

Sorry lads but that's horrific. Agger? Average at best and always will be (when fit)

Anyhoo -
Buffon

Maicon
Carvalho
Vidic
Evra
Essien
Xavi
Fabregas

Messi
Ronaldo
Torres

Subs: Casillas, Gerrard, Alves, Rooney, Drogba, Ibrahimovic, Iniesta

Carvalho has deteriorated a lot in the last 12 months.

That aside, pretty much spot on. Maybe Iniesta for Xavi.

Helix · 15-11-2009 3:46am

DSB wrote: »

Take a look at the thread title, it says best world 11, it doesn't mention best team.

so why not just pick the 11 best center forwards?

Bubs101 · 15-11-2009 4:40am

flahavaj wrote: »

Not enough Serie A players in that Bubs. Do you even watch it?:pac:

No, Kyrogen said Cassano was a great player and he's been a dick to me so I thought I had to include him

CHD · 15-11-2009 6:51pm

curry-muff wrote: »

Just like he did a top job in defence in the champions league final

Barca 2-0 UTD

I can make stupid points too.

bUILDERtHEbOB · 15-11-2009 9:13pm

Buffon

Maicon---Vidic

Chielini---Cole

Essien

Xavi

Iniesta

Messi

cRonaldo

Torres

Theresalwaysone · 15-11-2009 9:17pm

LOL at this thread and others like it.

Its handy in one way though as it allows you to see just who exactly is a clueless monkey and who knows what they are talking about.

Theresalwaysone · 15-11-2009 9:20pm

Xavi6 wrote: »

Buffon

Maicon
Carvalho
Vidic
Evra
Essien
Xavi
Fabregas

Messi
Ronaldo
Villa

Subs: Casillas, Gerrard, Alves, Rooney, Drogba, Ibrahimovic, Iniesta,Torres

FYP but otherwise pretty spot on and Id have made the same selection.

SlickRic · 15-11-2009 9:20pm

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Its handy in one way though as it allows you to see just who exactly is a clueless monkey and who knows what they are talking about.

got them all on a list now have you?

Theresalwaysone · 15-11-2009 9:27pm

SlickRic wrote: »

got them all on a list now have you?

LOL no, not at all.

Just when you see people with reasoning like "leaving Ronaldo out until he proves he is a consistent team player" or people including Agger or Pique you can make pretty accurate assumptions over their knowledge/bias, one of which is pretty important on a soccer forum and one of which, well, makes anything you say on certain subjects invalid.

flahavaj · 15-11-2009 9:45pm

I think the main conclusion I'd come to looking at this thread and having thought it over is the lack of really good centre backs at the moment in world football. Mot people have picked Vidic/Carvalho, despite both of them having shown signs of serious regression over the last 6-12 months. Its the lack of anyone outstanding springing up anywhere else that has them still in most people's teams I think.

kryogen · 15-11-2009 9:59pm

For a change

Carson

Eboue

Silvestre

Knight

Carr

Mcshane

Bentley

Barton

Nani

Alves

Voronin

Pretty good premier league team there, definatly challenging for honours with McShane and Barton dominating the midfield

Frankie Lee · 15-11-2009 10:10pm

Iker

Maicon

Pique

Cris

Evra--

Essien

Xavi

Hamsik

Messi

Iniesta

Torres

jesus_thats_gre · 15-11-2009 10:15pm

Pique being on some of these lists certainly is interesting...

SlickRic · 15-11-2009 10:18pm

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Pique being on some of these lists certainly is interesting makes no sense...

fyp

and is hamsik really as good as deserving to be in a fair few teams?

DazMarz · 15-11-2009 10:36pm

All these players at when they were at their peak and in their prime:

GK: Yashin, Lev
LB: Lizarazu, Bixette
CB: Terry, John
CB: Baresi, Franco
RB: Cafu
DM: Essien, Michael
LM/LW: Nedved, Pavel
CM: Gerrard, Steven
RM/RW: Messi, Lionel
AM/SS: Maradona, Diego Armando
CF: Shevchenko, Andriy

Subs bench:
GK: Kahn, Oliver
CB: Cannavaro, Fabio
SB: Irwin, Dennis
CM: Hernandez, Xavi
CM: Iniesta, Andrés
RW: Ronaldo, Cristiano
CF: Ronaldo Luis Nazário de Lima ('Fat Ronaldo')

jesus_thats_gre · 15-11-2009 10:37pm

SlickRic wrote: »

fyp

and is hamsik really as good as deserving to be in a fair few teams?

Think that that is a few people trying to show off how cultured they are in footballing terms

He is good and will be top class but he can't be mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Fabregas, Xavi, Gerrard, Lampard, Iniesta or Kaka...

Frankie Lee · 15-11-2009 10:43pm

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Pique being on some of these lists certainly is interesting...

If he was still at United he'd be ahead of Vidic or Rio at this stage, also he was immense for Barcelona at times last season, the leadership he showed in Stamford Bridge being an example.

SlickRic · 15-11-2009 10:45pm

Frankie Lee wrote: »

If he was still at United he'd be ahead of Vidic or Rio at this stage

no.

he's still a mistake waiting to happen too often.

although he is very good.

Pique isn't as quick, nor does he read the game as well as Rio.

Pique isn't as imposing or brave as Vidic.

Frankie Lee · 15-11-2009 10:54pm

SlickRic wrote: »

no.

he's still a mistake waiting to happen too often.

although he is very good.

Pique isn't as quick, nor does he read the game as well as Rio.

Pique isn't as imposing or brave as Vidic.

I disagree, Rio is getting past it and Vidic is a mistake that happens every time they play Liverpool.

SlickRic · 15-11-2009 10:57pm

Frankie Lee wrote: »

I disagree, Rio is getting past it and Vidic is a mistake that happens every time they play Liverpool.

being a Liverpool fan, the Vidic comment does amuse me, but Rio has only been 'past it' since this back injury got too much for him. up until the end of last season he was still imperious.

Vidic makes mistakes against Torres. most probably do. still on a whole nother level to Pique imo.

football's about opinions though, so you're entitled to yours.

CHD · 15-11-2009 10:58pm

Frankie Lee wrote: »

I disagree, Rio is getting past it and Vidic is a mistake that happens every time they play Liverpool.

So Pique is better than Vidic because he made mistakes -v- Liverpool twice?

Cool

Necronomicon · 15-11-2009 10:59pm

Pique wouldn't break up a fully fit Rio/Vidic partnership, but given how seldom that has been available to United lately it's a little despairing to see how well he's doing elsewhere (only from a wishing we still had him pov, actually happy for the chap as he's a class act).

noodler · 15-11-2009 11:02pm

Xavi6 wrote: »

Sorry lads but that's horrific. Agger? Average at best and always will be (when fit)

Anyhoo -
Buffon

Maicon
Carvalho
Vidic
Evra
Essien
Xavi
Fabregas

Messi
Ronaldo
Torres

Subs: Casillas, Gerrard, Alves, Rooney, Drogba, Ibrahimovic, Iniesta

Well the bias was admitted and I had to include a footballing centreback. I disagree in a big way that Agger has been average at best for Liverpool when fit. He is outstanding on the ball, has an excellent left foot and is a threat in the air.

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

LOL at this thread and others like it.

Its handy in one way though as it allows you to see just who exactly is a clueless monkey and who knows what they are talking about.

I LOL at people who make commentslike these in footballing threads on boards.ie. The need to try and big yourself up is overwhelmingly pathetic.

flahavaj · 15-11-2009 11:32pm

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

LOL at this thread and others like it.

Its handy in one way though as it allows you to see just who exactly is a clueless monkey and who knows what they are talking about.

And who's just posting for a reaction......:pac:

Bubs101 · 16-11-2009 12:37am

noodler wrote: »

Well the bias was admitted and I had to include a footballing centreback. I disagree in a big way that Agger has been average at best for Liverpool when fit. He is outstanding on the ball, has an excellent left foot and is a threat in the air.

TBH, that just makes him out to be a second rate Chiellini. Giorgio has great fitness, skilled on the ball and rarely makes the mistakes that Agger has made in the past, played left back for the first few years, has far more experience and is only a year older and has a decent scoring rate.

noodler · 16-11-2009 1:01am

Bubs101 wrote: »

TBH, that just makes him out to be a second rate Chiellini. Giorgio has great fitness, skilled on the ball and rarely makes the mistakes that Agger has made in the past, played left back for the first few years, has far more experience and is only a year older and has a decent scoring rate.

I am not sure what mistakes you are referring to. He hasn't played enough this season for real judgement andgiven we hd a pretty goos start to 09 I do wonder which goals (or even just mistakes you blame him for.

Anyway, I readily admit he isn't in the top 2 centre back in the world if it helps. I just think he is an outstanding footballer when fit.

tdv · 16-11-2009 1:17am

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Iker

Maicon
Pique
Cris
Evra--
Essien
Xavi
Hamsik

Messi
Iniesta
Torres

Good choice. He's been rock solid for Lyon the last few years with some terrible partners beside him.

x PyRo · 16-11-2009 2:27am

Iker

--Sagna----Terry

Vidic

Evra--

Fabregas---Xavi

---Messi

Ronaldo--

Eto'o

Torres

Soby · 16-11-2009 4:44am

Well if its any 11 regardless of positions
id say
Fabregas,Xavi,Iniesta,Messi,Ronaldo,Gerrard,Torres,Drogba,Essien,Maicon,Terry

Midfield kinda dominates it.

shano_88 · 16-11-2009 5:24am

Premiership XI:

Given

--Sagna---Terry

Carvalho---Evra--

Fletcher

Essien

Fabregas

--Arshavin

Gerrard--

Torres

Would win every game imo.

patmac · 16-11-2009 12:08pm

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

LOL at this thread and others like it.

Its handy in one way though as it allows you to see just who exactly is a clueless monkey and who knows what they are talking about.

Kilbane must be a shoo in for the left back spot surely.

Theresalwaysone · 16-11-2009 12:33pm

noodler wrote: »

I LOL at people who make commentslike these in footballing threads on boards.ie. The need to try and big yourself up is overwhelmingly pathetic.

I think you've misunderstood me. It has nothing to do with bigging myself up. I dont claim to be a football guru but look at the thread title, and then look at some of the teams and reasonings. There is literally no case for Agger or Pique to be in the teams. none. There is also no case to leave Ronaldo out.

So when I see that some people have included or precluded people like the above it makes me wonder they have any clue at all, or if their bias is so strong that their reasoning gets blurred. Either way, its not a good thing.

gustavo · 16-11-2009 1:04pm

Casillas

Maicon---Ferdinand---Carvalho --- A. Cole

Essien

Fabregas

Cristiano

Kaka

Messi

Villa

SlickRic · 16-11-2009 1:12pm

the amount of people, including myself, who left out Kaka is quite surprising too...

NabyLadistheman · 16-11-2009 1:26pm

Casillas

Maicon---Carvalho---Cheilini---Clichy

Xavi

Fabregas

Messi

Kaka

Ronaldo

Torres

It's making me weak thinking about it!

Bounty Hunter · 16-11-2009 1:42pm

Essien? Rooney? pffft

Milner

Milner---Milner---Milner---Milner

Milner

magma69 · 16-11-2009 1:58pm

Shay Given
John O Shea Sean St. Ledger Dickie Dunne Zinedine Kilbane

Stephen Hunt Keith Andrews Glenn Whelan Damien Duff

Robbie Keane Kevin Doyle

Not only is this the greatest football team in the world but the greatest of all time. (Possibly with the exception of Terry Phelan)

Glico Man · 16-11-2009 2:13pm

magma69 wrote: »

Shay Given
John O Shea Sean St. Ledger Dickie Dunne Zinedine Kilbane

Stephen Hunt Keith Andrews Glenn Whelan Damien Duff

Robbie Keane Kevin Doyle

Not only is this the greatest football team in the world but the greatest of all time. (Possibly with the exception of Terry Phelan)

Already shown they aren't after losing to a weak French team

SlickRic · 16-11-2009 2:42pm

aaronh007 wrote: »

Already shown they aren't after losing to a weak French team

any team with Henry, Anelka, Diarra, Gallas and Evra in it is anything but weak.

more respect to their talents, and less disrespect to our lads i reckon.

redout · 16-11-2009 2:45pm

SlickRic wrote: »

the amount of people, including myself, who left out Kaka is quite surprising too...

Kaka has been quite average ever since 2007. Nothing special out of him at all. The amount of people who left out Iniesta is baffling. Considered by many to have been Barca top player last season. Althought not many on here actually watch Spanish football regularly.

SlickRic · 16-11-2009 2:48pm

redout wrote: »

The amount of people who left out Iniesta is baffling. Considered by many to have been Barca top player last season.

true.

personally, i just couldn't ignore Cesc's form.

plus, if i were to ignore my Liverpool bias, he'd probably be my favourite player.

GavRedKing · 16-11-2009 2:54pm

Buffon

Maicon Carvalho Vidic Cole

Essien

Xavi Iniesta

Ronaldo Drogba Messi

redout · 16-11-2009 2:56pm

redout wrote: »

Cech
Chiellini
Vidic

Alves
Cole
Fabregas
Xavi
Iniesta

Messi
Ribery
Villa

SlickRic wrote: »

true.

personally, i just couldn't ignore Cesc's form.

plus, if i were to ignore my Liverpool bias, he'd probably be my favourite player.

Brother I got the both of them in there albeit at the expense of a defensive minded midfielder. That 3 man midfield would no doubt be the most devastating in world football plus the added benefit of Alves and Cole joining in on the wings. That team would have like 80% possesion guaranteed and the players up front who would be able to stick it in the net.

Macca07 · 16-11-2009 2:59pm

Casillas

-Sergio Ramos---Vidic---Carvalho---Evra-

Essien

Iniesta

Fabregas

-C. Ronaldo

Messi-

Torres

Could easily throw in Xavi, Ferdinand, A.Cole, Maicon, Rooney, Villa, Gerrard, Drogba, Xabi Alonso, etc.

Just impossible to pick the best 11 imo

SlickRic · 16-11-2009 3:02pm

redout wrote: »

Brother I got the both of them in there albeit at the expense of a defensive minded midfielder. That 3 man midfield would no doubt be the most devastating in world football plus the added benefit of Alves and Cole joining in on the wings. That team would have like 80% possesion guaranteed and the players up front who would be able to stick it in the net.

true.

i just couldn't sacrifice Essien though. he gives so much insurance.

i had.

Essien---Xavi

Messi

Cesc

Ronaldo

Torres

i just went for the variety of Essien as a powerhouse, and Ronaldo as a sudden inspiration from the wing. i feel this team could win, and play in more varied styles if necessary.

SlickRic · 16-11-2009 3:03pm

Macca07 wrote: »

Casillas
-Sergio Ramos---Vidic---Carvalho---Evra-
Essien
Iniesta
Fabregas
-C. Ronaldo
Messi-
Torres

Could easily throw in Xavi, Ferdinand, A.Cole, Maicon, Rooney, Villa, Gerrard, Drogba, Xabi Alonso, etc.

with all due respect...this myth is gone though.

Best world 11 in football

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