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New Zealand - Bahrain

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  • #2
    tolosenc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    Over.

    45th minute goal by Rory Fallon books a World Cup spot for The All Whites. Never thought I'd see the day when Oz and NZ were in the same World Cup finals...


  • #3
    m@cc@
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    It is kind of staggering really that Ireland play France for a World Cup spot and NZ face, er, Bahrain.


  • #4
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,909 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Great news for football over there. It'll be like Oz was in 06 and can only be good for the development at grassroots level.


  • #5
    The_B_Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    what about OUR greassroots level?!?! qualifying this 1 time would do more for ireland than NZ in the long run!!


  • #6
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,909 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    The_B_Man wrote: »
    what about OUR greassroots level?!?! qualifying this 1 time would do more for ireland than NZ in the long run!!

    Even if we qualified for 50 World Cups we'd still have the FAI to deal with.


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  • #7
    The_B_Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    meh, sometimes money can compensate for ignorance.
    all we need is a world cup win and we should have a small youth academy somewhere, maybe attached to a rugby school somewhere. :rolleyes:


  • #8
    m@cc@
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    The_B_Man wrote: »
    what about OUR greassroots level?!?!

    Nothing I hate more than greasy roots.


  • #9
    gosplan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    Just saw clips of this on TV.

    Bahrain guy missed a penno to send them through on away goals!!!! :eek:

    That'll take a while to get over I'd say.


  • #10
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,909 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Bahrain had a goal disallowed in the last minute as well.

    Imagine if Keane misses a peno in Paris and Dunne has a later header ruled out. The Bahrain folk must be gutted.


  • #11
    gosplan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    m@cc@ wrote: »
    It is kind of staggering really that Ireland play France for a World Cup spot and NZ face, er, Bahrain.

    Tis curious indeed.

    AFAIK, there's two Asian groups with qualifying spots for top two (which is always going to be Aus, Japan, Korea plus one other. The third place in each group play each other for a playoff spot against the winner of the Oceania group - which is always going to be NZ.

    So basically NZ have a pretty much guaranteed playoff match against one of Bahrain, N.Korea, Saudi and Iran for a spot at the finals.

    My guessing is that they'll stick with this system for a few WC's and then change it again.

    Yeah, we're a better team but it is the World cup and Europe already has 13 or 14 out of 32 places.

    Club football is pretty much only European now, we also have a European Championship which has 16 places and we can't seem to manage to qualify for.

    I say fair play New Zealand and I hope they enjoy it.


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  • #12
    Pisco Sour
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    New Zealand have qualified for the world cup by beating just 4 teams:

    1) Fiji
    2) Vanuatu
    3) New Caledonia
    4) Bahrain

    All worldbeaters. New Zealand really have done it the hard way!!

    As for Bahrain, they may need to start doing what they do in Track & Field if they are ever going to qualify... buying in talent from around the world. But instead of Kenyans they'll have to go look at recruiting young brazilians!!


  • #13
    MisterAnarchy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,414 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    04072511 wrote: »
    New Zealand have qualified for the world cup by beating just 4 teams:

    1) Fiji
    2) Vanuatu
    3) New Caledonia
    4) Bahrain

    All worldbeaters. New Zealand really have done it the hard way!!

    Absolutely farcical situation.
    My local soccer team would beat all of those teams.


  • #14
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    Absolutely farcical situation.
    My local soccer team would beat all of those teams.


    I would beat all those teams!!


  • #15
    JerryHandbag
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    Would it not have been an idea to let the winner of this game play the worst european group runner-up for a place in finals? New Zealand v Scotland??

    Edit: Sorry Norway not scotland


  • #16
    BraziliaNZ
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    you can't moan about NZ qualifying, Europe is probably over represented as is.
    We get a chance every two years to play in the biggest tournaments in the world and stuff it up every bloody time. So good on ya All Whites, I'll be cheering for you.


  • #17
    3hn2givr7mx1sc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    JerryHandbag wrote: »
    Would it not have been an idea to let the winner of this game play the worst european group runner-up for a place in finals? New Zealand v Scotland??

    Edit: Sorry Norway not scotland

    That would encourage teams to play badly if they were in that position in the last game. Who would we prefer to be playing tonight, France or New Zealand?


  • #18
    JerryHandbag
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    baz2009 wrote: »
    That would encourage teams to play badly if they were in that position in the last game. Who would we prefer to be playing tonight, France or New Zealand?

    Ah true, didnt think of that.
    Ok, best runner up then!


  • #19
    Pisco Sour
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭Pisco Sour


    JerryHandbag wrote: »
    Would it not have been an idea to let the winner of this game play the worst european group runner-up for a place in finals? New Zealand v Scotland??

    Edit: Sorry Norway not scotland

    Why should the WORST runner up team get rewarded by being given the easiest playoff opponent?


  • #20
    JerryHandbag
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    04072511 wrote: »
    Why should the WORST runner up team get rewarded by being given the easiest playoff opponent?

    See above post, I was thinking arseways :o


  • #21
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,516 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    JerryHandbag wrote: »
    Would it not have been an idea to let the winner of this game play the worst european group runner-up for a place in finals? New Zealand v Scotland??

    Edit: Sorry Norway not scotland

    Its up to UEFA and Platini to lobby for extra places - at the moment we have 13 and under your situation we'd have 13.5, so effectively someone (Asia and Oceania) would be missing out on that extra .5 place.
    Other confederations seem to be better at lobbying for places than UEFA - we had a 6 page thread awhile back about how UEFA have lost an average of .8 of a place every 4 years for the last 24 years. (though in fairness some people made good cases as to why this was still fair and just, though I disagreed).

    How UEFA chose to allocate their 13 places is a different issue - if it was ultimately unfair on Norway it's not really the fault of NZ/Bahrain etc, more the fault of the system UEFA chose to go from 53 entants to 13 qualifiers.

    Edit : Also no other confederation want a playoff against a European team, no one has ever beaten a European team in a playoff.


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  • #22
    ADTR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 340 ✭✭ADTR


    Fair play to New Zealand. But to be honest, I can't see them being anything other than whipping boys at the World Cup.


  • #23
    Pighead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Not worth a thread of it's own but looks like the Egypt V Algeria game is going to be a cracker. This is from the BBC.

    1731: Remember: If Egypt win 1-0, Algeria qualify. If Egypt win 3-0, they qualify. If Egypt win 2-0, the two teams would be level in every way - points, goal difference, goals scored and head-to-head record. In that instance, they would meet again on Wednesday in a one-off play-off in Sudan.


  • #24
    Raskolnikov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭Raskolnikov


    Pighead wrote: »
    Not worth a thread of it's own but looks like the Egypt V Algeria game is going to be a cracker. This is from the BBC.

    1731: Remember: If Egypt win 1-0, Algeria qualify. If Egypt win 3-0, they qualify. If Egypt win 2-0, the two teams would be level in every way - points, goal difference, goals scored and head-to-head record. In that instance, they would meet again on Wednesday in a one-off play-off in Sudan.
    That could be lively alright :eek:


  • #25
    Pighead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Raskolnikov wrote: »
    That could be lively alright :eek:
    Lively start alright and Egypt have taken the lead! 1-0 after 25 minutes. Sets it up nicely.

    Stream here but in Egyptian unfortunately.
    http://www.fromsport.com/video-113570.html


  • #26
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,516 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Pighead wrote: »
    Lively start alright and Egypt have taken the lead! 1-0 after 25 minutes. Sets it up nicely.

    Stream here but in Egyptian unfortunately.
    http://www.fromsport.com/video-113570.html

    2-0 Egypt, the second goal at 95:35 or something ridiculous like that.

    Playoff on neutral territory on Wednesday.


  • #27
    CCCP^
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭CCCP^


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Bahrain had a goal disallowed in the last minute as well.

    Imagine if Keane misses a peno in Paris and Dunne has a later header ruled out. The Bahrain folk must be gutted.

    Ah yeah, but with all the sand and oil they have, they must be like "**** it."


  • #28
    shane86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    04072511 wrote: »
    New Zealand have qualified for the world cup by beating just 4 teams:

    1) Fiji
    2) Vanuatu
    3) New Caledonia
    4) Bahrain

    All worldbeaters. New Zealand really have done it the hard way!!

    As for Bahrain, they may need to start doing what they do in Track & Field if they are ever going to qualify... buying in talent from around the world. But instead of Kenyans they'll have to go look at recruiting young brazilians!!

    Load of bollix. Might as well have European qualifying groups that are completely random and non seeded. Its like us getting a group of Andorra, San Marino etc etc.


  • #29
    loyatemu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,137 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    the Oceania qualifying is an absolute joke now - no way should New Zealand be going to Sth Africa after beating a bunch of pacific islanders and Bahrain.

    Australia left Oceania to play in the Asian qualifying as they felt they weren't getting enough competition (and they kept getting beaten in the final playoffs to the likes of Iran). When they left FIFA should have scrapped Oceania and given an extra place to either Asia or Africa.

    New Zealand can go an play in the Asian qualifying, the likes of Vanuatu and New Caledonia could play some sort of prequalifying with the winners going into an Asian group (personally think the like of Andorra, San Marino et al should have to pre-qualify also)


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