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15-11-2009 3:00am#1Did a spec for a fella on another forum:
Before he buys it, would he be better off with 1366 rated mobo/proc? The 1156 range of i7's seem to be better specced re speed vs price and the motherboards are about the same but has anyone first hand experience/reccommendations?
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Is the twelve hundred any good? Or am I being drawn in because it looks pretty?Leman_Russ wrote: »Where do I start!
Case: Antec 900 is a God Awful Case. Anything but this is an improvement.
PSU: Far too high for what is being shown here. A Corsair HX650 will be more than enough.
GPU: Seriously, get a new ATi One. A 58xx might be hard to find, but will be well worth it.
CPU: Does he really need Hyperthreading? If he does, Ok, fine. If he doesn't (or is gaming) Ditch it for a i5 750
Hard Drive: No Excuse to not get a 1TB drive nowadays.
Mobo: Asus are currently the poorest "Top teir" P55 Motherboard maker. Get a Gigabyte or MSI board.
(He's kindly put it together for me btw
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TW Mr Tayto wrote: »Is the twelve hundred any good? Or am I being drawn in because it looks pretty?
(He's kindly put it together for me btw)
Slap him now to save the pain. Also tell him to rsearch his parts.... Then come back next week.0 -
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*cough splutter*
Asking you lot is part of research, that's why I'm here. In specific response to the GPU comment above I've personally had both ATi and NV cards and can oly reccommend NV tbh.
Reccommended an ASUS mobo cos I have one and it's been rock solid.
CPU: he wants to game so yes it's high rated but that's for futureproofing I would have though, rather than having the hassle of a new PSU if he decides a second card is in order.
Got a personal reccomendation of the 900 case off a mate who swears by it.
Reason I posted this is to get Tayto a decent PC for sub-€1400 so feel free to continue tearing me apart, it's doing him good 0 -
In specific response to the GPU comment above I've personally had both ATi and NV cards and can oly reccommend NV tbh.
There's nothing we can really do about the dreaded scourge of fanboyism sadly :P Don't let outdated personal experiences affect your judgement or you're gonna end up making Tayto pay over the odds for a card with dubious future driver support; it's nVidia and its not new and shiny: bad combination.
HD58x0 heavily advised for premium builds if they can be sourced for non-la-la-land prices; given the limited stock and crazy prices a €150 HD4890 is a very strong fallback position. The GTX260 can't hope to keep pace with any of them, even the card priced lower than it :rolleyes:Reccommended an ASUS mobo cos I have one and it's been rock solid.
Times change. Asus have been up their own arses for a while and performance has become one of the victims. MSI and Gigabyte have improved significantly over the years so previous experiences are largely invalid. P55 is a different country
There's another reason not to get these, and that is...CPU: he wants to game so yes it's high rated but that's for futureproofing I would have though, rather than having the hassle of a new PSU if he decides a second card is in order.
First: HT no likey games. Second: Given you seem to be a bit off the current form you might not have heard of the ongoing LGA1156 horror story saga... Suffice to say there's issues with the pin pads on LGA1156 CPUs. And maybe their sockets. In any case the CPUs have an unfortunate habit of detonating
Its not so bad with mild OCs and pretty rare for stock-clocked systems, but it can still happen. LGA1366 is once again becoming popular as for some reason the CPUs don't blow up very often But they all have HT, and while they're all very powerful it would mean switching HT on and off...Got a personal reccomendation of the 900 case off a mate who swears by it.
Again, old. Its a nice case but very lacking in features for its price range; no fan filters, minimal cable routing, no CPU backplate cutout... etc. etc. Not good considering you can get HAF922s and the like around the same price or less!
Other random complaints: Surely you can find some cheaper compatible DDR3? We've recently had some good successes with Kigston ValueRam!
[/running gag] Expensive DVD-RWs too. Poor choice of HDD, that's a slow model and just 500GB is pretty poor for a €1400 build! Don't get the keyboard there, it'll be the German layout! And that's the German Win7 you have there too :P 0 -
Have you used the ATi 58xx? They are miles ahead of anything nVidia have/had/will make in the next 5 years.Asking you lot is part of research, that's why I'm here. In specific response to the GPU comment above I've personally had both ATi and NV cards and can oly reccommend NV tbh.
Do you have THAT Asus mobo? Specifically a P55 Chipset ASUS mobo? Not all Mobo manufacturers are equal on chipsets. While ASUS might have made excelent P45 or X58 or whatever (I don't know for sure), but their P55 boards are "poor" quality when compared to Gigabyte and MSI's offerings. (and ASRock are even worse!)Reccommended an ASUS mobo cos I have one and it's been rock solid.
What I mean is Hyperthreading ****s up gaming. Like, big time. If he is doing things like mathematical stuff that can use the Hyperthreading properly, get it. Otherwise, save your money and get the i5 750 which is just as good but doesn't mess up games. As for the PSU, I am planning a 5850 Crossfire rig with a Corsair HX650. You really do not need a 750W PSU (especial a corsair one, because it is actually a 800W one :pac: ) unless your friend has a few RAID arrays hidden there or 73 DVD Burners going at once.CPU: he wants to game so yes it's high rated but that's for futureproofing I would have though, rather than having the hassle of a new PSU if he decides a second card is in order.
Your mate needs to send whatever he is smoking to me please. The Antec 900 (and Antec Cases in General) are terrible build quality, have shoddy cable management and are just awful!Got a personal reccomendation of the 900 case off a mate who swears by it.
Damn right we have! And the story is spreading too, in the last 3 Weeks Kingston valueram 2GB stick have shot up by £5! :P And I though the Running Gag was Antec being so incredibly "awesome"? :pac:Other random complaints: Surely you can find some cheaper compatible DDR3? We've recently had some good successes with Kigston ValueRam! [/running gag]0 -
When I said continue to tear me to shreds I was joking! :pac:
Ok, lads sort this fella out with a decent spec will ye, and teach me a thing or two while you're at it please!
basically his budget was 2k but he was about to waste his folks' money (lucky prick) on a Dell until I stopped him and directed him to here. So that's my good deed done anyway no matter how out of touch I am....god I remember the days I used to dole out advice on here 0 -
When I said continue to tear me to shreds I was joking! :pac:
Ok, lads sort this fella out with a decent spec will ye, and teach me a thing or two while you're at it please!
basically his budget was 2k but he was about to waste his folks' money (lucky prick) on a Dell until I stopped him and directed him to here. So that's my good deed done anyway no matter how out of touch I am....god I remember the days I used to dole out advice on here
Always glad to help! For 2k you can get a LOT better than what you posted up there
-Goes off to ramble about i5 and ValuRam while tinkering about on eBuyer-0 -
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Leman_Russ wrote: »Have you used the ATi 58xx? They are miles ahead of anything nVidia have/had/will make in the next 5 years.
Er, slight exaggeration I see thar :P But they'll be the best there is until nVidia finally gets Fermi going... at which point they'll pretty much curtail driver support for the G200 :rolleyes:and ASRock are even worse!
ASRock and Foxconn make very cheap mobos with excellent performance and good chipsets. Shame they have terrible featuresets beyond what is gifted to them by the chipset itself. And naff ergonomics (you put the 24pin connector where?! :P) And terrible reliability...The Antec 900 (and Antec Cases in General) are terrible build quality, have shoddy cable management and are just awful!
Hateboi :P The 900 was a milestone for the case industry when it came out. Its just entering retirement at this stage though...And I though the Running Gag was Antec being so incredibly "awesome"? :pac:
Don't attack all of Antec's products just because the 900 should have been put to pasture! If you had a 1200 or a Signature PSU you wouldn't be moaning about them The Earthwatts are very good budget units and the Sigs are among the best units on the market, period. The 300 was the first sub-€100 case with a modern layout (PSU on the bottom, much-needed exhaust fans at the top). Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater! :cool: 0 -
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I got an A in higher JC German - don't ask me how, because I don't have a word of the language :PHerr Tayto,
Kannst du spricht Deutsch?
If not, you might want to leave out the German keyboards.
EDIT: 8GB RAM??:eek:
I've been looking at custompc.ie, anyone have any opinions on them ? :P0 -
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Yes, but the Corsair HX and TX series, along with Seasonics own Brand are much, much betterDon't attack all of Antec's products just because the 900 should have been put to pasture! If you had a 1200 or a Signature PSU you wouldn't be moaning about them The Earthwatts are very good budget units and the Sigs are among the best units on the market, period. The 300 was the first sub-€100 case with a modern layout (PSU on the bottom, much-needed exhaust fans at the top). Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater! :cool: And don't think I am hating for no reason, I have used my fare share of Antec Products and other brands, I have just found them to always be sub par.
Yes, plenty. However giving said opinions contravenes several strategic arms limitations treaties, thus I am unable to give said opinions. :pac:TW Mr Tayto wrote: »I've been looking at custompc.ie, anyone have any opinions on them ? :PIf you want lower prices go hardwareversand, if you want more safety go with komplett.ie
And if you want both, go to eBuyer. 0 -
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Leman_Russ wrote: »Yes, but the Corsair HX and TX series, along with Seasonics own Brand are much, much better
I think you should go here and stay there until you've been properly reeducated and are no longer a danger to society. I received my treatment there 0 -
I think you should go here and stay there until you've been properly reeducated and are no longer a danger to society. I received my treatment there
You sir, shock me!
The Most Holy Jonny hath decreed about the Seasonic Seasonic X-650"If all you care about is efficiency, you can pretty much stop reading right here and go buy one of these right now.""In looking at the low load test results, I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't have put a big red warning logo above it to warn you to sit down first. I heard crashing noises - I hope you guys are ok. Personally, I was already sitting down when I did the math for this table, else I'd be in the hospital right now. There just isn't room for a six and a half foot tall guy to fall safely in this room and not take serious injury.
88.8% at a below 10% load level. Good golly. Maybe I should go lie down for a while... I'm getting light headed again just looking at that number. This here Seasonic platform seems hell bent on breaking records today."
Antec can go stick it where the sun don't shine :PAvert your eyes! The above shots are too awesome for human eyesight to tolerate! Yes, folks, this here Seasonic platform has decided to out-awesome just about everything I've tested to date.0 -
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