France v Rep of Ireland ,WC Playoff 2nd leg,[Mod Warning Post #1/988/1169/1400]

Frisbee

I'd love to know what Henry was saying to Dunne when he sat down beside him after the game.

I'd like to think he was apologising

Heisenberg.

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johnnyrotten wrote: »

Time for the video ref

It didn't happen to France so nothing will be said of it.:mad:

Headshot

I had a laugh when henry said to kilbane something along the lines of

"it just hit my hand" making out it was accidental
cheating of the highest order and doesnt have the balls to admit it

Xavi6

Rob113 wrote: »

Apologies. Let the moment get to me. I find it very frustrating though that he was allowed to continue for so long without being reprimanded.

He has been

Report the posts and we'll do the rest. Hard to monitor a few hundred people's posts at once.

mayordenis

john47832 wrote: »

i think u might need a dictionary

Firstly hand ball won't show up in the dictionary,
secondly a foul isn't cheating automatically. The intention, and the attempt to leverage an advantage unfairly is what makes it cheating.

So honestly respond and clarify your point please.

dfx-

Kevin Kilbane and Shay Given attend the unveiling of France's new strip :pac:



Ultimately Ireland didn't go out because of it, but the only person to blame for the handball is Henry - not the linesman or referee. Best analogy so far is if I shoot someone, the police are not to blame for not stopping me..

Hopefully the advertising revenues will settle Henry's mind in the long term after the initial euphoria of getting his team through.

KELTICKNIGHTT

was weird too see henry sitting straight away after game beside dunne,maybe there was alittle guilt

Melion

Frisbee wrote: »

I'd love to know what Henry was saying to Dunne when he sat down beside him after the game.

I'd like to think he was apologising

Thats what i thought too, and to be honest it's not too far fetched to think thats what he was doing.

IRISHSPORTSGUY

McShane is a horrific player, would have rathered Stephen Kelly by a country mile. Alas..... *sighs*

acquiescefc

Frisbee wrote: »

I'd love to know what Henry was saying to Dunne when he sat down beside him after the game.

I'd like to think he was apologising

didnt Doyle say he didnt actually apologise?

Morzadec

Sick sick sick way to lose. Really didn't think I could leave the pub disappointed when I went in tonight, because I had no expectations, but to lose in that manner was heartbreaking. Well done Ireland, disgrace that players like Duff (MoM tonight imo, Given and Dunne aren't going to play the WC) when a team like New Zealand qualifies

orourkeda

Aidric wrote: »

Correct. I made this very point in another thread. McShane can't be abdicated completely in all of this. His hapless attempt at attacking the ball left the ball come in to Henry's path. That is in no way to defend Henry's actions because they are beyond reproach.

Thierry Henry still had to handle the TWICE and pass it to William Gasbag before it was a goal.

PAUL MCSHANE DIDNT CHEAT EITHER

I was sure they were going to do it. Their performance was super and at least they can hold their heads high unlike some people

OPENROAD

Headshot wrote: »

I had a laugh when henry said to kilbane something along the lines of

"it just hit my hand" making out it was accidental
cheating of the highest order and doesnt have the balls to admit it

Plenty of stuff week in week out and you will never hear anyone admit it

Vampireskiss

All Irish Arsenal fans should burn their old Henry jerseys or send them to Fifa in protest

mada999

Fighting Irish wrote: »

And that's why i haven't watched an Ireland match since they lost to macedonia

why.? please explain?

Spiritoftheseventies

McShane an honest defender. Henry a dishonest attacker. Simple enough really.

orourkeda

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

McShane is a horrific player, would have rathered Stephen Kelly by a country mile. Alas..... *sighs*

Absolutely not his fault.

I agree in that I dont believe to be a player good enough to play at international level but there wasnt one irish player that didnt play superbly.

Melion

Vampireskiss wrote: »

All Irish Arsenal fans should burn their old Henry jerseys or send them to Fifa in protest

Why exactly?
Maradona is seen as a hero in certain countries outside of Argentina for what he did in 1986. It always gets a good laugh when mentioned in Ireland because of who the opposition was.

Morzadec

On a side note, if anyone is interested in what the French media have to say about it, my Dad was listenting to French radio and this is the summary he gave:

'Shameful' and 'Inglorious' were the two words they used to describe their victory.

They also said that this is going to travel around the world and Henry is going to go down in many people's estimation. Ireland were the better team. And they said that they can't see France getting to the 2nd round the way they were playing.

decies

http://www.facebook.com/pages/THIERRY-HENRY-IS-A-CHEATING-BASTARD/182211979796?ref=mf

Frisbee

Vampireskiss wrote: »

All Irish Arsenal fans should burn their old Henry jerseys or send them to Fifa in protest

Why? The man was a legend for us.

Yes I hate him right now, but what he did has nothing to do with Arsenal. Especially since he doesn't play for them even...

Racing Flat

dfx- wrote: »

Ultimately Ireland didn't go out because of it

QFT.

Have people forgot that we lost 1-0 on Saturday?

1mcampo1

acquiescefc wrote: »

didnt Doyle say he didnt actually apologise?

He said he didn't apologise to him personaly

Rob113

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

McShane is a horrific player, would have rathered Stephen Kelly by a country mile. Alas..... *sighs*

I said the same to the missus as soon as i seeing him getting ready to come on. I just feared the worst straight away. Id even prefer to have someone like Alex Bruce in the squad as back up. Not the most skillful player but he would have attacked the ball and got it clear at least. Steve Carr and Steve Finnan are both back playing in the prem. Why werent they called in as back up at least.

orourkeda

OPENROAD wrote: »

Plenty of stuff week in week out and you will never hear anyone admit it

Is that supposed to make it OK. Are world cup play offs played every week.

Please dont try to justify cheating

IRISHSPORTSGUY

The "Robbie Keane doesn't score in the big games" merchants can officially crawl back under their stones. One of the greatest players in Irish football history, deserves to get to more than one tournament in his career.

Roy Curtis of the Sunday World will have nowt to write about now!

orourkeda

Rob113 wrote: »

I said the same to the missus as soon as i seeing him getting ready to come on. I just feared the worst straight away. Id even prefer to have someone like Alex Bruce in the squad as back up. Not the most skillful player but he would have attacked the ball and got it clear at least. Steve Carr and Steve Finnan are both back playing in the prem. Why werent they called in as back up at least.

Because they both retired from international football

Paul Tergat

Melion wrote: »

Maradona is seen as a hero in certain countries outside of Argentina for what he did in 1986. It always gets a good laugh when mentioned in Ireland because of who the opposition was.

This does sicken me. Its a horrible thing to happen when you feel so cheated.

Racing Flat

Melion wrote: »

Why exactly?
Maradona is seen as a hero in certain countries outside of Argentina for what he did in 1986. It always gets a good laugh when mentioned in Ireland because of who the opposition was.

Very true. So it was nice to see all the english fellows ringing in to you're on skysports tonight saying how gutted they were.

Krusader

Have to say 15,000 Irish fans were awesome tonight and if they had of been English, Paris would be a war zone by now

orourkeda

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

The "Robbie Keane doesn't score in the big games" merchants can officially crawl back under their stones. One of the greatest players in Irish football history, deserves to get to more than one tournament in his career.

He wont as long as Thierry keeps cheating.

kenon

Dunne and Henry are friends I think. I noticed a friendship like behaviour between them before.

I'd say Dunne deep down understood why Henry did it. Nearly most all professionals would try it and run the risk of a yellow card.

Spiritoftheseventies

To think lads. Everytime you turn on the telly there will be Henry on the Gillette Advert to remind you of that hand goal from now on.

Jayob10

All I wanna say is that I am so proud of the irish lads on the field tonight. F*ckin immense.

we'll rise again. As hard as it is to take these low moments make the highs even better when they come around.

kryogen

bayviewclose wrote: »

McShane an honest defender. Henry a dishonest attacker. Simple enough really.

an honest defender who is happy to let a ball drop in the 6 yard box in that situation? come on, he is not good enough for the team and shouldnt be defended here, if he had just dealt with the ball in there would be no **** storm about the cheating

Basq

.. that's all from me for the night lads!

Ah well... hugely enjoyable game. The best I've seen the Ireland team play in years.. and although it was an absolutely horrible way to go out, we can all admit the lads played their fecking arses off out there.

And I, like many others tonight, am proud of them!

Reganio 2

Vampireskiss wrote: »

All Irish Arsenal fans should burn their old Henry jerseys or send them to Fifa in protest

Then they send them all to Africa and be seen giving to charity. Then all them Oxfam ad's will have kids in Henry jersey's. Not going to do anything at all.

orourkeda

Crosáidí wrote: »

Have to say 15,000 Irish fans were awesome tonight and if they had of been English, Paris would be a war zone by now

If the english fans had reacted that way I wouldnt blame them to be honest.

The fact that they werent there makes this look like a cheap shot.

FutureGuy

It'll be a while before I am over this. Anger, disgust, disappointment, pride...I'm feeling them all right now.

I'm not looking forward to waking up and remembering tonight.

EDIT: But I cannot wait for Euro2012 qualifiers.

Happy Monday

Henry is no cheat.

The ball was there, he handled it and they scored - end of.

Doyle said he tried it and got away it with and so be it.

Fault lies with the officials.

orourkeda

kenon wrote: »

Dunne and Henry are friends I think. I noticed a friendship like behaviour between them before.

I'd say Dunne deep down understood why Henry did it. Nearly most all professionals would try it and run the risk of a yellow card.

Proof positive that professional has lost its soul. Professionals prepared to cheat each other makes for grim reading.

Dublin_Gunner

I feel so sorry for Keane & Duff especially, they're gonna have nightmares for months over the chances they missed.

Great bloody effort by the lads though, all 13 that played tonight.

FIFA really need to look at the refereeing of games, its well beyond a joke that a player can get away with something like that in this day and age.

I don't blame Henry, I'd bloomin' well do it myself if it meant getting my team to the World Cup. I'd throw the ball into the net if I thought I'd get away with it.

FutureGuy

Happy Monday wrote: »

Henry is no cheat.

The ball was there, he handled it and they scored - end of.
.

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I'm going to bed.

Frisbee

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

I feel so sorry for Keane & Duff especially, they're gonna have nightmares for months over the chances they missed.

And Doyle.

His header was a much easier chance than Keane's

bigdaddyliamo

well the ref did manage to spot ALL Keane's handballs...poor stuff all round and shame on Henry:mad:

twilight_singer

Happy Monday wrote: »

Henry is no cheat.

The ball was there, he handled it and they scored - end of.

Doyle said he tried it and got away it with and so be it.

Fault lies with the officials.

**** OFF!

mayordenis

Happy Monday wrote: »

Henry is no cheat.

The ball was there, he handled it and they scored - end of.

Doyle said he tried it and got away it with and so be it.

Fault lies with the officials.

Whatever, if I murder someone and get away with it I don't have a morally clean slate.
Slight hyperbole but you get the picture, it was a very direct act of cheating.

Spiritoftheseventies

Happy Monday wrote: »

Henry is no cheat.

The ball was there, he handled it and they scored - end of.

Doyle said he tried it and got away it with and so be it.

Fault lies with the officials.

Henry got away with it. Which does not change anything. Still his fault. And its on his resume now. A great player which makes his deliberate hand ball all the more disappointing.

McGrath5

Happy Monday wrote: »

Henry is a cheat.

The ball was there, he handled it and they scored - end of.

Fixed that for you.