France v Rep of Ireland ,WC Playoff 2nd leg,[Mod Warning Post #1/988/1169/1400]

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The BBC have a live reaction page that is constantly updated


Fifa Fair Play Code: "Play fair. Winning is without value if victory has been achieved unfairly or dishonestly. Cheating is easy, but brings no pleasure. Playing fair requires courage and character. It is also more satisfying. Fair play always has its reward, even when the game is lost. Playing fair earns respect, while cheating only brings shame. Remember: it is only a game. And games are pointless unless played fairly."

Victor McDade

Yeah there's no way FIFA will order a rematch.

If it was France who'd been knocked out though....

Nalz

Perfect Choice wrote: »

I think I feel worse today over this. It may be a while before I can watch another game of football, he'll I think I'll stick with the astro 5 a side for now.

With all thats gone on in the League of Ireland and now this. I'm off to Old Trafford this weekend and I'm not one bit excited about it. Sour taste aren't the words...

Dont be at yourself

Can this be taken to the Court of Arbitration for Sport? UEFA and FIFA won't do a thing, but CAS might.

Racing Flat

Trilla wrote: »

Given, O Shea, Dunne, St Ledger, Kilbane, Whelan, Andrews, Duff, Lawrence, Keane, Doyle = HEROES

If only they had been heroes on Saturday aswell .

The1337_Stephen

Lawrence truly was immense last night, i'd gladly have him in the side for any of our future matches... seems to have the passing postential of Steven Reid..

The whole team played epically well, its the best Irish performance i have seen in years. For us to go out in such a fashion is a travesty, an absolute travesty.

Through the whole lineup i can't fault a single one of them, we don't have the most creative players..

what we do have is a squad full of Heroes, who actually reignited my love for irish football.

No matter what happened, they'll still remain Heroes to me.

token56

I am completely gutted by last nights and what transpired. Is replaying the match going to happen, as other posters have pointed out its probably just not viable and I cant see it happening. I would wonder though if the situation was reversed and France were robbed in the exact same we were last night, would Platini be pushing for a replay then. Or had this happened for example in the champions league final what would happen? I dont know just thinking out aloud.

The one thing I hope that comes from this is that Fifa learn from this and something is done to make sure it never happens again. I know this wont help us now, but if a lesson is not learned from this mistake well that would be the biggest travesty of all.

I would also like to hear exactly what is the match officials view of the incident. Surely they must have known something was off considering the reaction of the players, and the linesman should have been able to see both the hand ball and the offside.

L'prof

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

Can this be taken to the Court of Arbitration for Sport? UEFA and FIFA won't do a thing, but CAS might.

The thing is, people are calling for a replay. Let's say we got it, then we have to do the whole thing again! We were 16 minutes from penalties.

Mikeyt086

Trilla wrote: »

Given, O Shea, Dunne, St Ledger, Kilbane, Whelan, Andrews, Duff, Lawrence, Keane, Doyle = HEROES

Arent they just?

Just an outrageous amount of passion put in. I couldnt ask more of them. They were inspirational.

Ive slated Glen Whelan and Keith Andrews before, slated them, but they were incredible last night, when it counted, and for that they have earned my trust.

St.Ledger established himself as a genuine quality footballer of the highest level last night, as he along with Richard Dunne nullified one of the most feared attacks in world football.

Damien Duff was 2002 Duffer.

Kevin Doyle, well, didnt you just get the feeling he would have given his life out there if Trappatoni asked him to.

I could comment for every player but its actually just upsetting.

Dublin_Gunner

jasonorr wrote: »

The thing is, people are calling for a replay. Let's say we got it, then we have to do the whole thing again! We were 16 minutes from penalties.

Well then at least Duffer, Keano, O'Shea & Doyle would have a chance not to miss openers again.

joey54

I haven't had time to read through all the previous posts so apologies if i am repeating what others have said.

I am not hugely involved with soccer, but am involved with coaching sport to kids and of course always support the boys in green, no matter what the code. To say I am disappointed is an understatement.

I am absolutely disgusted with Henry. I used to use him as an example for kids to look up, for kids to aspire to not only because of his football ability but also because of his honesty and integrity both on and off the pitch. This is now in tatters. All the respect I ever had for him is now gone. The way he sat down beside Dunne at the end of the game just proved he knew he had done the wrong thing.

The Irish lads played their hearts out last night, they believed they could do it. They left nothing on the pitch. Their reaction at the end of the game is testament to this, Damien Duff's tears said it all.

I would hope the FAI stand tall over this and I for one do not think that calls for a replay are ridiculous. The precedent is there to order a rematch. I challenge FIFA to stand by their fair play charter and order a replay of the game.

Victor McDade

I'm no fan of the "Mirror" tabloid but lol at their headline "French nickers"

rocco

Funny as fook http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty5vgjMOsAI

Headshot

Zombie eat brains, but zombie cannot swallow this injustice!

BaZmO*

token56 wrote: »

I would also like to hear exactly what is the match officials view of the incident.

I think the ref thought it hits Henry's side, you can see him indicating it in this clip at about the 55s mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Neb8dpddQLU

token56 wrote: »

...and the linesman should have been able to see both the hand ball and the offside.

And that's the biggest tragedy.

L'prof

rocco wrote: »

Funny as fook http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty5vgjMOsAI

Brilliant!

DEVEREUX

cmyk wrote: »

FAI Press Conference at 2pm according to newstalk. Interesting to hear.

is this being televised, or online. anyone know?

m@cc@

We should have seen this coming....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olympics/handball/7579555.stm

orourkeda

Happy Monday wrote: »

Henry is no cheat.

The ball was there, he handled it and they scored - end of.

Doyle said he tried it and got away it with and so be it.

Fault lies with the officials.

The rules of the game state that the use of your HANDS to control the ball is illegal. Therefore, controlling the ball with your hands to set up a goal is CHEATING. The officials or anybody else for that matter cannot be held responsible for cheating I wouldnt blame the official in this case as to expect them not to make mistakes is unrealisitic.

TV TECHNOLOGY WILL ELIMINATE CHEATING LIKE THIS.

Quite simple really.

token56

BaZmO* wrote: »

I think the ref thought it hits Henry's side, you can see him indicating it in this clip at about the 55s mark.


And that's the biggest tragedy.

Good spot, looks like he did indeed think it hit is side, which to be honest is a bit mad when you consider the ball was going away from him, and given the position of his body, for the ball to come back in the way it did, he would have had to shift his body forward which he didn't do. But of this is all very easy to see in a slow motion replay and in live action there is probably no way he would be thinking like that.

But yes I do have to agree the biggest tragedy is the linesman. How he did not see either the offside or the handball is beyond me. I mean normally a handball can be a very quick slight touch of the hand and can be hard to see but here it was handle twiced surely the linesmen's eyes must have been aimed at the ball, so how they didn't see it is beyond me.

krankykitty

From RTE Sport - FIFA insist there will be no replay

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/1119/fifa.html

So depressed after such a good performance last night and being robbed

BaZmO*

token56 wrote: »

But yes I do have to agree the biggest tragedy is the linesman. How he did not see either the offside or the handball is beyond me. I mean normally a handball can be a very quick slight touch of the hand and can be hard to see but here it was handle twiced surely the linesmen's eyes must have been aimed at the ball, so how they didn't see it is beyond me.

You can see at 1:20 that he had a perfect view of it.

Argghhhh! The more I look at this the more angry I get! :mad:

Stargate

BaZmO* wrote: »

I think the ref thought it hits Henry's side, you can see him indicating it in this clip at about the 55s mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Neb8dpddQLU

And that's the biggest tragedy.

Look at Gallas , he knew Henry handled it , look at the guilt on his face as hes watching the replay :(:(:(:mad::mad::mad:

Dave!

m@cc@ wrote: »

We should have seen this coming....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olympics/handball/7579555.stm

Xavi6

Apparently the go ahead has been given to rename Dublin's Henry Street to 'Cheat Street'

Dublin_Gunner

krankykitty wrote: »

From RTE Sport - FIFA insist there will be no replay

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/1119/fifa.html

So depressed after such a good performance last night and being robbed

Law 5 can be challenged due to the fact that other match linked to earlier was replayed.

Anthony16

Someone has probably already mentioned this but after the game henry actually said "i cheated" to richard dunne and both have covered it up in interviews.it happened when they were sitting together after the game

Flipz4Rollz

OMG I havent been able to get up all day. My anger has now turned to sadness and amost depression.

Our boys put in an unbelieveable performance considering we had to play with 10 men when o'shea came off.

Why was gibson brought on? We had Reid on the bench!

Everytime I see the replay of le scum running off celebratring after ****ing cheating us out of the WC it kills me a little inside.

wp boys, wp.

deisedevil

Flipz4Rollz wrote: »

Why was gibson brought on? We had Reid on the bench!

What? Reid?

Mental Mickey

deisedevil wrote: »

What? Reid?

I'm confused by that one too!!? They weren't on the bench!

HashSlinging

LOL

Dave!

Former France international David Ginola on BBC Radio 5 Live: "I'm very embarrassed by the situation. I don't feel very proud to be French this morning. The Irish played very well and they deserved to go through as much as France, maybe more. I'm very surprised Fifa haven't mentioned anything about it - the whole world saw the handball. This is a pure injustice. Everyone in France, the press and everyone, says there should be a replay."


Keep the momentum going !

NaiveMelodies

Stargate wrote: »

Look at Gallas , he knew Henry handled it , look at the guilt on his face as hes watching the replay :(:(:(:mad::mad::mad:

Theyd didnt show the replay in the stadium until 5 or 6 minutes after the goal and that replay was completely inconclusive.

Dublin_Gunner

I would love if either a) FIFA are pressured into allowing a replay, and we either qualify, or at least bow out justly b)France do another 2002, and don't get out of their bloody group.

Mental Mickey

Dave! wrote: »

Former France international David Ginola on BBC Radio 5 Live: "I'm very embarrassed by the situation. I don't feel very proud to be French this morning. The Irish played very well and they deserved to go through as much as France, maybe more. I'm very surprised Fifa haven't mentioned anything about it - the whole world saw the handball. This is a pure injustice. Everyone in France, the press and everyone, says there should be a replay."


Keep the momentum going !

It's gonna make **** all difference.

Flipz4Rollz

deisedevil wrote: »

What? Reid?

I'm assuming stephen reid was on the bench?

BaZmO*

Flipz4Rollz wrote: »

I'm assuming stephen reid was on the bench?

Well you're assuming wrong

Mental Mickey

Flipz4Rollz wrote: »

I'm assuming stephen reid was on the bench?

No. Neither of the Reid's were on the bench! I don't know where that came from?

Aidric

Flipz4Rollz wrote: »

I'm assuming stephen reid was on the bench?

Ah here, we're all disappointed but let's stick to the facts at least.

Dave!

Johnny Aldridge was on the bench too, can't believe he didn't play ! :mad:

Probably the ref didn't let him on, it's like 94 all over again !

BaZmO*

Duff doesn't blame Henry. He makes a good point too.

Really feel for him in this clip, he really seems devastated.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/8367895.stm

TheGreenGiant

Yeah, its really a shame for players like Duff and Kilbane and the entire Irish team. They played like champions last night!!

jaykay74

TheGreenGiant wrote: »

Yeah, its really a shame for players like Duff and Kilbane and the entire Irish team. They played like champions last night!!

Last week Duff was all but ruled out of both legs by Fulham but he made it anyway. You can tell he really loves representing his country. Hope he has 2 more years left in him and he gets a 2nd major tournament uder his belt.

Mikeyt086

More terrible for Duff, Given, Keane, Kilbane, Dunne and the senior members of the squad. They wont get to play in a World Cup ever again. They were given an almost impossible task to make it to South Africa, and what makes it worse, they did enough to achieve it.

Sherifu

Liveline.

briany

I think Henry is a liar. The replay is so clear. You can even see him adjust his hand position for his second touch!:mad: Oh Henry told the ref he handled it......after the game. People say that we would have taken it if it went for us and I cannot disagree but if it had, the wheels would already have been in motion for the replay but FIFA will just laugh at our request or demands as the case may be. I hope that the French people enjoy their World Cup but I hope that it weighs on the teams conscience that they got there on a blatant cheat.

Lauder

I am quite proud of this photo!

http://foot.ie/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1469&d=1258638633

GrumPy

Lauder wrote: »

I am quite proud of this photo!

Provide the url of the photo maybe? Can't view the page unless you register.

Sherifu

Trap press conf.

http://www.rte.ie/live/

Bubs101