BMW X5 900 Euro quote to replace front pads & discs...

Darragh29

I kid you not, just quoted over 900 Euro to replace pads & discs on a 2008 X5, is this not pure and utter madness???

Omega28

I hope u told them where to go! 900?! mad f**kers

Anan1

Welcome to the free market economy, Darragh29, i'm sure you'll get the parts a lot cheaper elsewhere!;) You're right, though, it is a p1sstake of a price.

Darragh29

We wonder why the industry is on it's knee's??? Rapeage is the only word for that... The job takes under an hour, how on earth could you ask someone for 900 Euro for this task is just beyond me... And people pay it because they insist on "BMW Service History Only"...

Myrddin

Christ almighty, did they give you a breakdown of the labour/parts? Thats serious overkill.

Omega28

bring it to ur local mechanic! "BMW Service History" a load of sh**, you'll get ppl payin it though! you'd be crazy if u did though!

Fatswaldo

Bought these parts for an X5 a little while ago. Front discs about E75 and a set of pads were E40 odd. This is a handy job for any garage - hourly rates must be crazy!

Owen

The hourly rate in most BMW garages is quite expensive because you're paying (As the consumer) for the ridiculously expensive BMW diagnostic equipment, tracking machines, etc. The price on a tracking machine alone (IIRC) is 160k.

Can't for the life of me figure out that price though Darragh, I think you set a record

Anan1

Given how easy pads & discs are to fit, the vast bulk of that quote must be parts prices. Surely it has little to do with BMWSH though, the car can still be serviced with BMW and the pads & discs fitted elsewhere, no?

mickdw

How many miles have you on it? Do you even need discs, By the sound of your post, this is your first pad change so how bad could the discs be. I read somewhere that BMW are now insisting on new discs with every pad change on 7 series. That is likely the policy on your X5 too.

JHMEG

^ What Anan1 said. Pads/discs don't need a stamp in the book.

As for what PD said about BMWs equipment being so expensive... is it really any more expensive than anyone else's?

Owen

JHMEG wrote: »

As for what PD said about BMWs equipment being so expensive... is it really any more expensive than anyone else's?

Some of the prices I've seen are insane.

rebel.ranter

I know an X5 would have bigger pads & discs than a 5 series but surely not that much bigger (i.e. expensive)?
The BMW "value" service website quotes the following prices for an e39 5 Series:

Front Pads & discs incl. labour: €315*
Rear Pads & discs incl. labour: €265*

Total: €580
(OK I know parts & labours can be gotten for much less than the prices quoted at the main dealers, but I'm just doing a direct comparison with BMW's own pricing)

It is hard to imagine there is an additional €300 in labour costs for an x5 over an e39!
Just doing a quick comparion of x5 pads v 5 series pads on a UK bmw dealer site:
Front brake pads from BMW (5 Series) STG £66**
Front brake pads from BMW (x5) STG £83**
It would appear there is a 25% uplift in the cost of the parts. just thought this might be interesting.

Price quotes form here:

* Service quotes

** UK Parts Prices from UK BMW dealer

mickdw

rebel.ranter wrote: »

I know an X5 would have bigger pads & discs than a 5 series but surely not that much bigger (i.e. expensive)?
The BMW "value" service website quotes the following prices for an e39 5 Series:

Front Pads & discs incl. labour: €315*
Rear Pads & discs incl. labour: €265*

Total: €580
(OK I know parts & labours can be gotten for much less than the prices quoted at the main dealers, but I'm just doing a direct comparison with BMW's own pricing)

It is hard to imagine there is an additional €300 in labour costs for an x5 over an e39!
Just doing a quick comparion of x5 pads v 5 series pads on a UK bmw dealer site:
Front brake pads from BMW (5 Series) STG £66**
Front brake pads from BMW (x5) STG £83**
It would appear there is a 25% uplift in the cost of the parts. just thought this might be interesting.

Price quotes form here:

* Service quotes

** UK Parts Prices from UK BMW dealer

But the 900 quote is only for front discs & pads so its way worse than you are highlighting here.

JHMEG

PaintDoctor wrote: »

Some of the prices I've seen are insane.

No doubt, but I don't think they're any more insane than any other marque's equipment.

Owen

JHMEG wrote: »

No doubt, but I don't think they're any more insane than any other marque's equipment.

I'm nearly certain they are. Plus, the training costs for BMW technicians are also more substantial - as most training occurs overseas. And there are constant exams that technicians have to be sent on. It all adds up.

I don't think for any second btw that this justifys any pricing like what Darragh suggested!

reverandkenjami

Thats madness! Just picked up the phone to local BMW place and they quoted me €640

Pads & sensor(i think he said sensor) €120+vat
Discs x2 €240+vat
Labour €200+vat

Includes a full checkover too

Anan1

I'm assuming the X5 Darragh29 got the €900 quote for was a V8 petrol?

mondeo

You buy a premium brand you will get bent over a barrel all the time for maintenance. I'm going into a main dealer with my Volvo s80 next week for a good arse rape. ABS warning light problem my normal garage cannot work out so it's a main dealer examination to plug her in.

E-900 is a killer for a relatively straight forward job...

Guy:Incognito

Just curious Darragh why are you getting (I assume) main dealer quotes and not doing it yourself? (I'm not being smart btw)

Healyc

Anan1 wrote: »

I'm assuming the X5 Darragh29 got the €900 quote for was a V8 petrol?

AFAIK there the sames brakes on the E70 3.0d Sport & the 4.8i Sport

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partxref.do?part=34116771982&showus=&showeur=1&series=E70

But yeah that's crazy but not unheard of, are they fully floating disks like on the ///M's?

reverandkenjami

reverandkenjami wrote: »

Thats madness! Just picked up the phone to local BMW place and they quoted me €640

Pads & sensor(i think he said sensor) €120+vat
Discs x2 €240+vat
Labour €200+vat

Includes a full checkover too

640 euro is no less crazy.

I just priced the parts on a UK website.

pads x2 £40 incl vat
discs x2 £90 incl vat
sensor £10 incl vat


Total incl delivery £160. Parts are O.E.M also.

Thats less than 200 euro for lot. http://www.c3bmw.co.uk

Theanswers

Get the parts up north (Uk prices) and fit them yourself, it's an easy job. Done the same on my mates 06 RR took little over 30 minutes to do the break pads. All you need is a good jack and some spanners.
No way would i even think of paying those prices. Anything over 150 i'd consider expensive!!

Darragh29

Ok an update, the price was 900 Euro and the work quoted for was:

(1) Brake pads & Discs changed on the front axle

(2) Brake pads only changed on the rear axle...

900 Euro still seems like pure extortion on this job for me. I asked my mate why we can't do it ourselves and he said, "because you need to go to the BMW garage to reset the computer"... :eek::eek::eek:

Gumbo

Darragh29 wrote: »

Ok an update, the price was 900 Euro and the work quoted for was:

(1) Brake pads & Discs changed on the front axle

(2) Brake pads only changed on the rear axle...

900 Euro still seems like pure extortion on this job for me. I asked my mate why we can't do it ourselves and he said, "because you need to go to the BMW garage to reset the computer"... :eek::eek::eek:

you dont have to, theres a hidden menu in the newer BMW system that allows you to do it yourself. i done it when i changed the micro filter on my E90.

OP, why do you need discs after only 2 years of driving? have you high mileage on the jeep?

i would recommend going here or up north.

SouperComputer

Darragh29 wrote: »

900 Euro still seems like pure extortion on this job for me. I asked my mate why we can't do it ourselves and he said, "because you need to go to the BMW garage to reset the computer"... :eek::eek::eek:

Get this: http://www.carsoftsales.com/bmw73/pricelist.html
Buy the disks and pads, fit them yourself.
Treat yourself and your mate to "Coke 'n' Hookers" with the change.

Mr.Diagnostic

and if you diy this how will you recalibrate the electronic side of the system?

Gumbo

Mr.Diagnostic wrote: »

and if you diy this how will you recalibrate the electronic side of the system?

what does this mean?

when changing the pads, its just a little clip in sensor that has to be replaced and then the service indicator on the OBC that needs to be reset AFAIK.

Hootanany

i paid £250 front and rear in Belfast

Mr.Diagnostic

kceire wrote: »

what does this mean?

when changing the pads, its just a little clip in sensor that has to be replaced and then the service indicator on the OBC that needs to be reset AFAIK.

That’s just pad sensors.

Working on the rear brakes of an E70 will often upset the handbrake which needs to be reset dynamically. (electronic handbrake)

Considering how often serial diagnostics are required its not really a DIY job IMO.

cml387

Probably get abuse for this, but does it not seem odd that people buy a BMW and the complain about the cost of servicing etc.
Quality car,quality prices when you need to get anything done.

Anan1

cml387 wrote: »

Probably get abuse for this, but does it not seem odd that people buy a BMW and the complain about the cost of servicing etc.
Quality car,quality prices when you need to get anything done.

Perhaps because the price of the car is a lot more reasonable than €900 for discs & pads?

Mr.Diagnostic

Mr.Diagnostic wrote: »

That’s just pad sensors.

Working on the rear brakes of an E70 will often upset the handbrake which needs to be reset dynamically. (electronic handbrake)

Considering how often serial diagnostics are required its not really a DIY job IMO.

Almost any job on a car is a DIY job imo if your willing to take it on.

Worst case you could do the job and find someone else to reset the handbrake with the software.

At those prices I would be doing a diy and thats for sure.

Mr.Diagnostic

Alfredo Gifted Barbiturate wrote: »

Almost any job on a car is a DIY job imo if your willing to take it on.

Worst case you could do the job and find someone else to reset the handbrake with the software.

At those prices I would be doing a diy and thats for sure.

It may be worth while pointing out that I wasn’t condoning the price.

The problem with asking a pro to reset it is that they may not. I am pretty sure a dealer wouldn’t and any specialist with any sense probably wouldn’t either.
I would not be happy to reset without knowing the brake work had been done correctly. We live in a society that is far too litigious to risk that.You would be amazed at some of the diy jobs gone wrong that I have seen over the years.

Outside the dealer network there are very few who would be equipped to do this. Most garages all make aftermarket scan tools will not do it.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Anyone tried AC car sales yet, they stamp BMW log books and have all the diagnostic equipment think their prices are less than a stealer.
http://www.accarsales.ie/

Gumbo

Mr.Diagnostic wrote: »

That’s just pad sensors.

Working on the rear brakes of an E70 will often upset the handbrake which needs to be reset dynamically. (electronic handbrake)

Considering how often serial diagnostics are required its not really a DIY job IMO.

yep, cpmpletely forgot about the electronic handbrake on the E70! its not present on the E90 or my old X5 (E53 model).

Ariya Echoing Grapefruit wrote: »

Anyone tried AC car sales yet, they stamp BMW log books and have all the diagnostic equipment think their prices are less than a stealer.
http://www.accarsales.ie/

yep, i did in post No. 25

Theanswers

Darragh29 wrote: »

Ok an update, the price was 900 Euro and the work quoted for was:

(1) Brake pads & Discs changed on the front axle

(2) Brake pads only changed on the rear axle...

900 Euro still seems like pure extortion on this job for me. I asked my mate why we can't do it ourselves and he said, "because you need to go to the BMW garage to reset the computer"... :eek::eek::eek:

The computer doesnt really have to be reset, we didnt bother. It complains though to "check breaks". But as long as you fit the new break pads they will work perfect!! A light on the dash is alot better than 900 down the drain!!

reverandkenjami

Ariya Echoing Grapefruit wrote: »

Anyone tried AC car sales yet, they stamp BMW log books and have all the diagnostic equipment think their prices are less than a stealer.
http://www.accarsales.ie/

They're almost expensive lately- seem to have gotten a bit greedy