Petition to FIFA

Bandit12

Max Power1 wrote: »

Lads get a grip on reality will ya? If it was Ireland winning with a hand ball from robbie keane, we'd all be delighted, go to the world cup and nothing more said.

Talk about over reacting!

I would'nt be delighted if we got to the World Cup like that. Maybe that's the difference between us and them.

Max Power1

Mitch Connor wrote: »

But that isn't the case.

You honestly think no one would have said anything if it was Ireland that had cheated France. You can be damn sure there would have been people disappointed with the fashion of the victory if that had been the case.

Sure, we wouldn't be saying we wanted Keane banned, but the French would be, and I'm sure we'd all be disappointed at the actions of Keane.

Bandit12 wrote: »

I would'nt be delighted if we got to the World Cup like that. Maybe that's the difference between us and them.

I call bullsh!t on both of you guys. Come off your moral high point!!

Mitch Connor

Max Power1 wrote: »

I call bullsh!t on both of you guys. Come off your moral high point!!

oh, well seeing as you called BS, you must be right - and we are the ones chasing a moral high ground.:rolleyes:

Pal

Max Power1 wrote: »

I call bullsh!t on both of you guys. Come off your moral high point!!

give it a rest.
you don't make any points.
I'd like to hear what people have to say whether you think its high moral ground or not.
thanks

jamsieboy86

Do ya think this petition will work?

Agus

clown bag wrote: »

I don't think fifa saw the hand ball tbh. not acording to their match report anyway. No mention of it at all......

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/newsid=1136804.html#gallas+breaks+irish+hearts







neither their report nor match photos show the most important moment of the game. no mention at all.

move along, nothing to see here.

they also appear to have disabled commenting on the article in question!

glanman

Posted in the match thread but it might get lost there, so here it is for those who wish to email fifa

http://www.fifa.com/contact/validate.htmx

And the FAI:

info@fai.ie

Please keep this thread clean, I don't want it closed as I feel it is important for people to know where to complain to

Galvasean

Serious question, what could possibly be gained by doing so?

SteelyDanJalapeno

possibly rematch?

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive/germany2006/news/newsid=27212.html

GLaDOS

Galvasean wrote: »

Serious question, what could possibly be gained by doing so?

I would like to see FIFA at least acknowledge that we were well and truely screwed over

glanman

And doing nothing will help? By sitting back and not complaining you will get nothing. At least this way they will get some understand of what happened and the injustice that we all feel. Every little helps, out of small acorns and all that.

gandalf

The more noise we make the more chance that they have to respond. No harm in sending a strongly worded message.

Headshot

IF we campaign against this injustice something will be done, we have to keep protesting

and I hope fai get off their arse and be the spear head for this protest.

Mr Alan

do people genuinely think there should be a replay cause of a bad call made by the ref/linesman?

ffs.

Interyurauldone

Here's what i went it. I dont expect a reply or anything to happen, but i want to rest easy in knowing I made an effort. If you spot a spelling mistake or grammatical error keep it to yourself!! I dont want to know!

Dear Mr.Blatter,

"Honesty is the best policy". Ring any bells?? I didn’t think so.

Integrity, honesty and principle, I assume are traits held dear by FIFA? Clearly not.

At 11:55pm (CET) it became very clear that FIFA were determined to get France to the World Cup by any means possible. Twice the rules were bent/broken to allow France into the World Cup.

(i)UEFA change the rules

Firstly UEFA changing the rules towards the end of the qualifiers so that the top ranked teams would be seeded against ‘weaker’ teams was very unfair. Is this even allowed? I thought the rules are established before the competition and couldn’t be changed halfway through the campaign. This gave France an unfair advantage- if Michel Platini is the President of UEFA and he makes a rule change to help his own nation qualify when they are struggling is this not wrong and corrupt? It seems very odd that this would be allowed to happen.

(ii)French Handball

Secondly, the French goal last night was blatant cheating. Henry literally threw the ball back into play. This incident can not be argued as an innocuous hand ball or ball to hand. TV replays showed that the assistant referee had a clear line of view on the incident yet it was allowed to stand. The referee didn’t appear to consult with any of his assistants. It’s extremely suspicious. Was the referee given a directive from FIFA to do what ever it takes to get France through?

It is a great shame on our game that this has been allowed to pass. FIFA campaign for ‘fair play’ but yet they don’t practice fair play themselves, what example does this set for our kids, the next generation?

Cheating is ok? Cheats do win.

(iii)Recommended course of action

In the interests of fair play, the reputation of FIFA, the good name and image of football, the game should be replayed or FIFA fair play is not worth the paper it's written on.

Take no action FIFA and be faced with professional players taking the law into their own hands and seeking retribution against known cheats who UEFA and FIFA fail to punish. Players seeking retribution will happen.

Shame on you FIFA. I await a response to publish.

Is mise le meas

http://www.fifa.com/contact/form.html

Jayob10

Mr Alan wrote: »

do people genuinely think there should be a replay cause of a bad call made by the ref/linesman?

ffs.

well there is a precedent. In a world cup qualifier between Uzbekistan and Bahrain, it ended up being replayed because of a critically poor decision by a referee that directly influenced the outcome.

So yes there is precedence here.

joe123

Mr Alan wrote: »

do people genuinely think there should be a replay cause of a bad call made by the ref/linesman?

ffs.

All your posts ive seen regarding this match either relate to "dont be stupid its over" or "move on lads ffs". Bloody annoying to be honest mate.

imeddyhobbs

Newstalk are also running a petition to FIFA against last nights game

partyatmygaff

I am thrilled we are now nearly at 2500 signatures in the space of less than 12 hours. We need to up the acceleration ALOT, we need international support AND the support of the FAI and as many official bodies as possible. We need to reach a massive amount by the end of today. Make it happen guys! I'll do my part and everyone do theirs.

glanman

Jayob10 wrote: »

well there is a precedent. In a world cup qualifier between Uzbekistan and Bahrain, it ended up being replayed because of a critically poor decision by a referee that directly influenced the outcome.

So yes there is precedence here.

I think this was classed as a "technical error" (player enter box before penalty taken(which was scored), ref gave a free out, wrong call, complaint, upheld by fifa committee, replay of 1st and 2nd leg), I don't think the Henry handball is a technical error.

AS we know though Fifa can find a loophole if they want, I don't think they will want to in this case.

Gavin "shels"

Walsh wrote: »

Seriously? What the hell is this gonna do? French are goin to South Africa, we aren't, you'll be over it in the morning.

Don't be silly, they won't be over it till Liverpool beat Man City on Saturday or Man Utd beat whoever they're playing.


Time to move on gents, and for the people asking for the match to be replayed in the News, I *facepalm* for you.

gosplan

Gavin shels wrote: »

Don't be silly, they won't be over it till Liverpool beat Man City on Saturday or Man Utd beat whoever they're playing.

Pretty ignorant of you to bring that chip you're carrying around into this one TBH.

TheDoc

joe123 wrote: »

All your posts ive seen regarding this match either relate to "dont be stupid its over" or "move on lads ffs". Bloody annoying to be honest mate.

He is being realistic.

There is no way they would allow a replay. Just no way.

It way a horrible way to be beaten, but if they do, then how many teams and countries will be up in arms about replaying matches.

Its done and dusted and you have to look forward.

I'm getting annoyed at this sort of talk, yes we were done by a bad refereeing call. But thats football and it happens

deisedevil

joe123 wrote: »

All your posts ive seen regarding this match either relate to "dont be stupid its over" or "move on lads ffs". Bloody annoying to be honest mate.

He's bloody right though mate!
Some people need to get a good grip of themselves, we're not out of the World Cup based on one poor decision by the officials and there's no point in anyone trying to convince themselves that it's that simple. (I'm not singling you out, it's all over the place)

1.No goal at HOME
2.Wasted chances in Paris
3.Wasted opportunites in the group stage, throwing away leads.

Anyone of those would have meant we'd already be on the way to SA if we got them right and people need to stop trying to put all the blame at the door of one incident and should look at the wasted opportunites over the whole qualifying campaign.

If Henry had handled the ball in the first minutes of the first leg and they scored as a result there would be no petitions going around and everyone would have had accepted that we were unlucky end of.

The only reason there are petitions going around is because of when the incident happened and at a time where we felt we might have a chance whereas going into the game we felt we had none. People still have anger in their minds but haven't gotten past that yet and used their common sense in a calm manner.

gosplan

TheDoc wrote: »

He is being realistic.

There is no way they would allow a replay. Just no way.

It way a horrible way to be beaten, but if they do, then how many teams and countries will be up in arms about replaying matches.

Its done and dusted and you have to look forward.

I'm getting annoyed at this sort of talk, yes we were done by a bad refereeing call. But thats football and it happens

He's 100% right. There's no way we're going to get a replay.

However, we should keep calling for one until FIFA address the issue properly, admit their system doesn't work and tell us what they're going to do in the future about such incidents.

deisedevil

Gavin shels wrote: »

Don't be silly, they won't be over it till Liverpool beat Man City on Saturday or Man Utd beat whoever they're playing.


Time to move on gents, and for the people asking for the match to be replayed in the News, I *facepalm* for you.

I *facepalm* for you! Did you really have to bring your Anti Prem comments into a thread like this? For shame!

gosplan

deisedevil wrote: »

He's bloody right though mate!
Some people need to get a good grip of themselves, we're not out of the World Cup based on one poor decision by the officials and there's no point in anyone trying to convince themselves that it's that simple. (I'm not singling you out, it's all over the place)

1.No goal at HOME
2.Wasted chances in Paris
3.Wasted opportunites in the group stage, throwing away leads.

Anyone of those would have meant we'd already be on the way to SA if we got them right and people need to stop trying to put all the blame at the door of one incident and should look at the wasted opportunites over the whole qualifying campaign.

If Henry had handled the ball in the first minutes of the first leg and they scored as a result there would be no petitions going around and everyone would have had accepted that we were unlucky end of.

The only reason there are petitions going around is because of when the incident happened and at a time where we felt we might have a chance whereas going into the game we felt we had none. People still have anger in their minds but haven't gotten past that yet and used their common sense in a calm manner.

I realise that much of what you're saying is correct but this 'we're not out of the World Cup based on one poor decision by the officials' is wrong.

Yes, we had chances to qualify and didn't take them but we were still in until that poor decision.

If we had done better we wouldn't have been drawing with 16 mins to go but we were. We were drawing until that decision knocked us out.

deisedevil

gosplan wrote: »

I realise that much of what you're saying is correct but this 'we're not out of the World Cup based on one poor decision by the officials' is wrong.

Yes, we had chances to qualify and didn't take them but we were still in until that poor decision.

If we had done better we wouldn't have been drawing with 16 mins to go but we were. We were drawing until that decision knocked us out.

Oh I understand that. Sorry what I was really getting at is that if this incident had happened at a different stage of the two legs rather than extra time with prospect of penalties coming up after a great Irish performance then no one would be looking for petitions to be signed. It was just the timing of it.
If Henry had done exactly that in Dublin and they had got their Anelka goal and then we went to Paris and got our goal we'd have gone out and sure we would be annoyed at Henry handling the ball but we wouldn't be looking for a replay, just cursing bad luck.

Cool_CM

Des wrote: »

Online petitions always work :rolleyes:

I live in Zürich. I will be handing them a letter.

yeraulone

If you don't want to sign the bloody thing, then don't. I know, like most here, it's not going to have any effect, but I signed it anyways. It will be binned by FIFA, but I'm glad to get my opinion off my chest like the other 3k that signed it.

joe123

Gavin shels wrote: »

Don't be silly, they won't be over it till Liverpool beat Man City on Saturday or Man Utd beat whoever they're playing.


Time to move on gents, and for the people asking for the match to be replayed in the News, I *facepalm* for you.

Possibly one of the worst posts ive read in a long time on boards. And thats saying something. Cringeworthy.

Pal

Fifa Fair Play Code:

" Playing fair earns respect, while cheating only brings shame. Remember: it is only a game. And games are pointless unless played fairly."

Bandit12

Max Power1 wrote: »

I call bullsh!t on both of you guys. Come off your moral high point!!

Call it want you want that's how i feel. I can tell you right now if Robbie Keane had done that last night i would have been ashamed at that type of behaviour. Like is said maybe that's the difference between us and them.

Bandit12

Gavin shels wrote: »

Don't be silly, they won't be over it till Liverpool beat Man City on Saturday or Man Utd beat whoever they're playing.


Time to move on gents, and for the people asking for the match to be replayed in the News, I *facepalm* for you.

Oh dear :rolleyes:

partyatmygaff

Can anyone here who is here solely to say "Forget it" or that it will achieve nothing please leave the thread, its not going to achieve ANYTHING whatsoever. What have you lost by signing a petition?? Nothing. What MIGHT you gain from a petition? Something, Either justice for the team or if FIFA really do not want to Ireland to go to SA atleast create a system so cheating like this does not reoccur. I cannot understand why some people post on this thread solely to be pessimistic and to fight about random stuff. We have no time to fight or complain about Petitions, sign the damned petition and ensure it is shown to the world as soon as possible. We are nearing 10000 signatures now in less than 18 hours. We need ALOT more to be even considered by FIFA. The only way to do that is tell everyone about it (EVEN people who aren't Irish, The english for example know fully well how we feel about cheating of that sort)

We need international support and official support! People please stop fighting and complaining about petitions and start trying to do something.



Sign and Spread! We need far more support and we need it now!

I have just sent a request to the FAI to support this petition to FIFA via email just 10 minutes ago.

Will keep you all informed. In the meantime anyone who has any means of spreading this please do so. If you haven't signed yet, DO IT NOW!

Raoul

I don't think the petition has any chance of working at all but I still signed it rather than just moaning about how online petitions = fail and crap. It took me less than thirty seconds to fill out.

partyatmygaff

Does anyone here have any links to radio stations/know anyone that works in a radio station? That is a sure fire way to get coverage of this!

Vurnon San Benito

I run a site listed on NewsNow and I'm half tempted to put the petition up and get all the Newcastle fans to sign it.

Not very relevant though.

partyatmygaff

Doocey wrote: »

I run a site listed on NewsNow and I'm half tempted to put the petition up and get all the Newcastle fans to sign it.

Not very relevant though.

Please do so!

We have now reached approx 1 signature per 1.5 seconds sometimes peaking at 1 signature per 1 second. Lets make it 15 per second!

@Soccer Mods: I am aware that I am posting quite a lot in this thread. I will try to cut it down a bit from this post on!

Update: I have sent a request to Spin 1038, 98FM and FM104 as of yet!

<a href="http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/review-the-ireland-vs-france-qualifier-france.html"><img width="206" height="60" border="0" alt="GoPetition" title="FIFA must video review the Ireland VS France Qualifier France (powered by GoPetition)" src="http://www.gopetition.com/counters?pid=32214&t=2&quot; /></a>

This is the html code for the new button which serves as a counter and link which you can put in your signatures e.t.c, please however do not forget to mention what the petition is about if you use the button.

Panthro

http://www.facebook.com/friends/?added&ref=tn#/pages/Petition-to-have-IRELAND-Vs-FRANCE-REPLAYED/180940979795

im sure these things are a dime a dozen right now but how bouts getting everyone singing off the same sheet, link up all the petitions going around. might be worth a shot

OPENROAD

Can someone clarify what happened in the Georgia match ?

Vurnon San Benito

We were given a desperate penalty for nothing.

x in the city

Just sent this email to them

I expect they are getting bombarded with them now




"I think FIFA need to address this game as there are far too many unanswered questions.

Mr. Henry said that it was handball and the Irish manager saw the handball on the half way line, a man of 70 years.

The match official when questioned after the game by Kevin Kilbane about it he said “I can guarantee you 100% it was NOT handball"

Now, like duh. Obviously this is not right

We all make mistakes in life, Mr. Henry (to protect his name) admitted the guilt but can FIFA hold up their hands?


FIFA can address this by saying, ok our referees made a mistake and we will re play the game.

Even the people of France are disgusted by this incident, but...

FIFA won’t replay this game, because they don’t have the balls to see the prospect of France not qualifying for SA.

It doesn’t take a blind man to see this.

Frankly as a body who promotes FAIR PLAY and all that FIFA are more corrupt than your average Nigerian scammer.

I am in the process of writing a book and expect to get it published in 2010.

Crime and Corruption in our Game spearheaded by FIFA.

Expect it to be a number one seller, in light of recent events.

Yours etc..."




* taking advance orders....:p

Stargate

partyatmygaff wrote: »

It may be slightly futile but atleast if we don't right the injustice done to the Irish team with enough numbers we can pressurise FIFA to do something about it.

I ask of you all to sign it and spread it as far and as wide as you can, we need as many signatures as possible for some form of an effect. Atleast a few thousand is needed! So forum signatures, Facebook, bebo. Anything!
http://www.gopetition.com/online/32214/sign.html#se

TNX , I SIGNED IT BECAUSE I CARE !

Vurnon San Benito

Okay lads, posted the article up with the following headline :

"Is it really fair for Shola to make World Cup and Shay to stay at home?"

Hopefully will get a few signatures.

Mr Alan

this thread is ****ing embarrasing.

Headshot

Mr Alan wrote: »

this thread is ****ing embarrasing.

so why are you posting in it :rolleyes:

Mr Alan

so i can say its embarrasing.

thought that was fairly obvious?!

Vurnon San Benito

Mr Alan wrote: »

so i can say its embarrasing.

thought that was fairly obvious?!

It's worth a try. We ain't going down without a fight, if you really believe that justice has been done, then you're no footballing man.

Headshot

Mr Alan wrote: »

so i can say its embarrasing.

thought that was fairly obvious?!

so you just came in to post above

wow you must love your post count