Newry Shoppers

hellboy99

soups05 wrote: »

however I can see in my own job that we are being ripped off here. my boss buys his stock in the north, 50p for a can of red bull that retails at €2.15 in the shop.
Thats just greedy.the same can retails in tescos for €1.43 last i checked. (€1.99 for 6 pack of kx ) we have southern kerrygold 1lb block 4.35. tescos charge 2.15 for the same product in the same town?

And we are told by countless ones here on the boards, media and government to shop local, support Irish businesses and that prices are coming down, right :rolleyes:

Stephentlig

soups05 wrote: »

meant to qoute this in my last post, my evidence is twofold. I pay the invoices from the northern suppliers and most of our stock has a label giving the price in sterling.

:eek: No way, thanks Soups. but I still stress that people like us and your boss are kicking ourselves in the backside either way.

Biggins

Just a side note maybe - with the almighty wallop that we're all going to get in the upcoming budget, this cross border shopping is only going to increase even more so!

It will be just two fingers up to the shower of fcuks in the Dail and to be honest, I can't blame the people for trying to survive by heading north while consistently being repeatedly beaten and raped in the pocket, wallet and bank account!

hellboy99

People in the recent flood hit areas will be going up north for their drinking water, was watching the TV3 news and the reporter was saying that last week in many shops and supermarkets bottle water that was €5 has now gone up to €7, absolute disgrace :mad:

Biggins

hellboy99 wrote: »

People in the recent flood hit areas will be going up north for their drinking water, was watching the TV3 news and the reporter was saying that last week in many shops and supermarkets bottle water that was €5 has now gone up to €7, absolute disgrace :mad:

...and I hope those customers never set foot in those shops again and serve the scum thieving shop owners right!

Darksaga87

goverments solution to getting out of recession - Cut wages, increase tax, cut jobs - increase the price of basic supplies of the people, rip every hard working person off, complain complain complain. Shop local = poverty.

Biggins

If things are hard now for the border areas, I can't begin to imagine what how things will go after the next budget for the same shops.
As bad as things are now and the willingness for people to still spend somehow - that will severely be effected more so now.
People will be more unwilling to part with the remaining few notes left in their pockets!

Darksaga87

By the end of next year the only stores left open will be UK based chains.

hellboy99

Darksaga87 wrote: »

By the end of next year the only stores left open will be UK based chains.

That's exactly what will happen, governments answer to solve the countries problems; increase taxes, introduce more taxes, cut wages, cut welfare, increase unemployment, increase poverty etc... that's some plan :rolleyes:

Biggins

hellboy99 wrote: »

That's exactly what will happen, governments answer to solve the countries problems; increase taxes, introduce more taxes, cut wages, cut welfare, increase unemployment, increase poverty etc... that's some plan :rolleyes:

Agreed.
Its a total fcuk up of a plan and I can't see it any other way.
Dundalk, Drogheda businesses etc, are just going to be decimated even more! Jeasus! :mad:

amacachi

A few years back some of the big EU countries wanted tax harmonisation, we didn't due to our low Corporation tax rate, how much I bet the government would love if they'd standardised everything. :pac:

The way it is an equilibrium will be reached at some point when our prices have to fall to line up with the north, one of the main things being wages. But while the unions keep pissing and moaning about that it's just going to drag things out.

Also I noticed in Tesco on Halloween when I was getting cans that they were actually dearer than a few months ago. ****ers. Up to the border and 24 cans for 15 or so quid I reckon. :P

I feel no loyalty or any of that crap towards local businesses or the government or anything else, we're in a free market and I'm going to look after myself.

hellboy99

amacachi wrote: »

I feel no loyalty or any of that crap towards local businesses or the government or anything else, we're in a free market and I'm going to look after myself.

Too right, who is looking after us, certainly not the above you mention.

GSBellew

hellboy99 wrote: »

Our own council have got stuff printed up there too, there's an old saying, "you lead by example" :rolleyes:

mikemac wrote: »

Well it's been said already but your own council who you voted for printed flyers to "shop local" and used a firm in Northern Ireland to produce them

And that's the leadership for the county??

Was that not The Chamber of Commerce rather than Dundalk Town Council.

hellboy99

GSBellew wrote: »

Was that not The Chamber of Commerce rather than Dundalk Town Council.

I was just on about the council, but both have been at it. Can't blame them really and it's a good thing if the savings they are making are going back into the town, so if that's the case I guess they're doing their bit and being patriotic to the people of the town

Pighead

Biggins wrote: »

If things are hard now for the border areas, I can't begin to imagine what how things will go after the next budget for the same shops.
As bad as things are now and the willingness for people to still spend somehow - that will severely be effected more so now.
People will be more unwilling to part with the remaining few notes left in their pockets!

Spot on Biggins. The budget is going to convince even more people to shop up north. At the moment it's mainly food and drink which people are purchasing up north but after this budget where fuel is going to be substantially taxed I reckon you'll start to see a lot more people getting coal/oil/petrol across the border.

bigneacy

Some deals in Nisa (formerly McGeoghs) between Faughart and Jonesboro. Was there for petrol and coal after I heard it was all done up. Had a look around in the off licence... Alcohol is about half the price for spirits and crates of beer. Its things like this that make you wonder where the extra €10-€15 we pay in the south goes?

Stephentlig

bigneacy wrote: »

Some deals in Nisa (formerly McGeoghs) between Faughart and Jonesboro. Was there for petrol and coal after I heard it was all done up. Had a look around in the off licence... Alcohol is about half the price for spirits and crates of beer. Its things like this that make you wonder where the extra €10-€15 we pay in the south goes?

I bought coal in Mc Geoughs ( now Nisa ) for E14.25 and there is a place in dundalk selling it at 12 euro.

bigneacy

Yeah coal is a similar price but i'm refering moreso to the price of alcohol and groceries... Petrol is also going the same way. 120.5 (at the euro rate) a litre last week there, topaz was 122.5

judebrad

Went to Currys in Swords today to ask why a Blu-ray product here was
€179, when up North it was £97, and to justify the price, told me it was to
save time - told him it would only cost €20 on petrol (at the most)
People have got to wake up in this country!
The whole EU thing is 'free movement of goods and services'.

Stephentlig

judebrad wrote: »

Went to Currys in Swords today to ask why a Blu-ray product here was
€179, when up North it was £97, and to justify the price, told me it was to
save time - told him it would only cost €20 on petrol (at the most)
People have got to wake up in this country!
The whole EU thing is 'free movement of goods and services'.

Hi there, I went to four places in the town looking for a good deal on Blue ray. Currys claim to be giving us the uk vat rate, and when one reads the fine print, its the uk vat rate but not the same price.

I went to extra vision and got one with four free dvds for a 160 euro, it was a sony. went to currys and they had the same sony player for 199 euros. When asked what it meant that he'd never be beaten on price, his response was...''Should you find the same model elsewhere after seven days of purchase for cheaper then we'll match that price'. we sort of stared at him and told him that we did and he just met us both with tight lipped silence. We then asked him what the difference was between profile version 1.1 and 2.0 is and he replied ''I dont know, probably a better picture?'' I seriously dont know how these people are given position of Manager.

Stephen

Whiskey Devil

judebrad wrote: »

Went to Currys in Swords today to ask why a Blu-ray product here was
€179, when up North it was £97, and to justify the price, told me it was to
save time - told him it would only cost €20 on petrol (at the most)
People have got to wake up in this country!
The whole EU thing is 'free movement of goods and services'.

Why bother going into the shop in Swords? It's obviously going to be cheaper in the North. There's a 6.5% difference on the VAT rate - they never advertised UK prices. People on little over the minimum wage really don't need **** from you.

Whiskey Devil

Stephentlig wrote: »

Hi there, I went to four places in the town looking for a good deal on Blue ray. Currys claim to be giving us the uk vat rate, and when one reads the fine print, its the uk vat rate but not the same price.

Stephen

What fine print? VAT and price are completely different things..

hellboy99

Stephentlig wrote: »

I went to extra vision and got one with four free dvds for a 160 euro, it was a sony. went to currys and they had the same sony player for 199 euros. When asked what it meant that he'd never be beaten on price, his response was...''Should you find the same model elsewhere after seven days of purchase for cheaper then we'll match that price'. we sort of stared at him and told him that we did and he just met us both with tight lipped silence. We then asked him what the difference was between profile version 1.1 and 2.0 is and he replied ''I dont know, probably a better picture?'' I seriously dont know how these people are given position of Manager.

Stephen

They haven't a clue in Currys, I don't bother going in anymore, got fed up with the last time I was trying to explain to their "so called" TV tech specialist what he should of known :rolleyes:.
I also hate the fact that your not even two minutes in the door and one of the staff is straight up to you asking do you need help, if I want help I'll ask for it ! Whoever came up with the mystery shopper should be shot.

As for their price matching policy, in the past I have been told "no we don't price match", "we can't match it", to "yes we do but only in a 1 mile radius".

Stephentlig

Whiskey Devil wrote: »

Why bother going into the shop in Swords? It's obviously going to be cheaper in the North. There's a 6.5% difference on the VAT rate - they never advertised UK prices. People on little over the minimum wage really don't need **** from you.

people like him who are on little over the minimum wage do need to give **** to those people, why? because he is giving them his hard earned pennys my little forum friend thats why.

they never advertised uk prices which is exactly my point, they are giving the uk vat range but not the same price, telling people in their t.v adverts that there is no point going up north.

judebrad

In the end (yesterday) I went to xtravision and got the Sony S360 for €160
which included 4 blu-ray disks AND it plays dvdshrink created disks -
Happy Daze.

mikemac

Stephentlig wrote: »

people like him who are on little over the minimum wage do need to give **** to those people, why? because he is giving them his hard earned pennys my little forum friend thats why.

The post was about the poster giving out to retail staff in Swords. Nobody said how much judebrad earned, read it again!

If you work minimum wage retail to Swords then having people coming in and giving out about prices in another country is a waste of time.

The customers have no intention to buy there and you're just upsetting retail staff who cannot give discounts.
At least talk to a manager. Some student working weekends doesn't need to hear this rant

Stephentlig

mikemac wrote: »

The post was about the poster giving out to retail staff in Swords. Nobody said how much judebrad earned, read it again!

If you work minimum wage retail to Swords then having people coming in and giving out about prices in another country is a waste of time.

The customers have no intention to buy there and you're just upsetting retail staff who cannot give discounts.
At least talk to a manager. Some student working weekends doesn't need to hear this rant

How do you know the customer has no intention of buying there? they are honestly just searching for the best price, I am not advocating for people to go off on angry rants, this is unacceptable.

I worked for tescos years ago and on the induction day I was trained to expect such customers who came in the door to hand them over to the manager.

and in a retail language the customer is always right and when they do get to the manager and get that discount ( which I have done before) then their little humble rant has saved them money.

DK man

I don't condem people for shopping up north but you need to consider the wages and social welfare up there.. If you shop up north you are contributing to the difficulties in the Irish economy. I am a public sector employee and many of my colleagues complain about pay cuts and at the same time choose to spend their wages up north - you can have it both ways!

TommyT

It is simple economics. People will go to Newry and other northern towns because the prices are cheaper. You cannot blame them.
Sterling has been weak for the past year but it may recover some ground, this will have a bearing on peoples decision to travel north, lets be honest the Irish government isnt going to do anything to entice people to spend their money in the south.

borderlinemeath

People have always crossed the border to shop but the current tidal wave of southern cars over the border is destroying the Irish economy.

The backlash against the current government is also adding to the tax intake as consumers justify their cross border shopping by blaming the government for taxation and not lowering VAT rates.

The retailers are also coming under fire for the prices charged in RoI, much of which is out of the retailers hands.

It is a different country north of the border, much lower rates of pay, much lower cost of living, yet consumers think they're great, running up to Asda or Sainsburys to save a couple of quid on their shopping and destroying the Irish economy at the same time.
I hope they think of the mess they're leaving the country in for their kids to grow up in.
Selfish attitudes all round.