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The Economy - Those WITH jobs making most noise? Why?

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    #32
    seclachi
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    As somebody said to me when I was just out of college, "You dont have to worry about anything, You have nothing, you dont have anything to loose"


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    #33
    Upsider
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    this is my point, raised by the last two posters actually - two hundred thousand workers AT LEAT are not long term unemployed but lost their job in the last eighteen months - that's the first point; the second point relates to the last poter, who raise private versus public sector - to which sector was she/he assuming the unemployed belong?


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    #34
    lmimmfn
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    what about "societies vulnerable"? arrrgghhhhhhhhhhhh


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    #35
    Upsider
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    and your point is, exactly?


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    #36
    nesf
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    Upsider wrote: »
    Why are the unemployed so quiet? Even on the talk shows? Why is it (a sociological question as opposed to a rant) that it is those WITH jobs rather than those without them, who are making most noise about our economic state?

    Those with jobs aren't making noise. Unions representing some of those with jobs are making a lot of noise, the rest of us are keeping our heads down and getting on with things.


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    #37
    Nate--IRL--
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    Upsider wrote: »
    and your point is, exactly?

    The point is, it is a useless sound bite used by people who purport to represent the interests of, but ultimately don't give a **** about, "societies vulnerable" and do nothing to alleviate their situation, bar talking shíte.

    Nate


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    #38
    Rantan
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    mikemac wrote: »
    Most days on the radio you can hear representatives from different bodies talking about the "most vunerable in our society"
    And that's great and they are represented

    They are better represented then many private sectors workers paying PAYE, PRSI, BIK and levies and watching over half their income gone and being told "lucky to have a job". And anyone who can earn enough to pay 41% rate is rich....... Sure it's pointless working overtime!
    Not sure who represents them. Nobody possibly
    Yes, great to have a job, luck isn't a huge part of it but anyway this thread was about who has is making noise and has representation

    ANd you think they are referring specifically to people out of work and not referring to elderly, sick, underpriviliged, homeless, abused etc etc? There is no voice for unemployed to speak for themselves and represent their own position. "Well meaning" politicians lump them in with this new social group "the vunerable." I think you would find if you actually calculated the amount of airtime given you'd find unions and IBEC and similar bodies have had a lot more of it than the unemployed. As a PAYE worker you represent yourself, if you are not happy with that join a union. Why do you feel you need representation so badly?


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    #39
    Idbatterim
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    Fair play TIPPMAN you hit the nail on the head with a few of your points!


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