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As more and more people get online boards is going to keep growing, this is invetible it's happening and it can't be stopped.
Well the admins could stop it they could just not let any more account be created but they don't want to do that, so it's gonna happen.
So these sort of discussions have to happen to that the communities we have aren't damaged and keep growing and ticking along with out intervention.
The ideology and philosophy of boards.ie, this is about enshrinement so that those and the values which stem form them are not lost along the way and people then leave the site and communities then falter and fail.
I have been reading the thread, I have been reading all the thread for the last 11 months around here watching boards grow and shift and evolve.
And I am not an oldskool member, those would be those who have a Feb 98 sign up date.
This is part of that, a lot of things will change, the site had to grown and evolve and it has to be let do that and a lot of it will happen driven by members making it their own talking about the things they want to talk about and using the site to make wonderful things happen in their life.
But if the site get swamped and it's essense/culture gets so diluted and it's idealogies lost, then what makes this place different and what draws people in will be lost and the site will end up going into decline.
To prevent this from happens and to be able to foster and support the organic growth of the site there has to be things written down.
At this whole place was an idea DeV had which someone told him couldn't be done and here we all are a decade later, I would like to think that this place or a reincarnation of this place will be still around in 20s years time but to make sure that happens the ideologies and philosophies of the site have to be played forward and that mean having them defined and written down.
And as this was all DeV's brain child the poor bastard has to try and attempt that I would not like to do it as it is in some ways ethereal and means many things to many people who have often no more in common with each other then their passion for this place and what it has brought into their lives.
While we can to a point document how things work around here, why it works is imho a bit of mystery.
You are over thinking this. You are to involved to see the reality. You even think oldskool needs a 98 date when really your previous posts relating to the "past" tell a different story.
It is just a website, really. SA is the same. The difference is DeV thinks that boards.ie is some how going to be the centre of Ireland as far as this website is concerned. People get to excited by nothing.
Like when Lisbon 1 was polled and boards.ie showed a similar vote. Well done. It was mentioned a lot. Not seeing much mention about the Lisbon 2 poll?
I like boards and always have but the illusion of grandeur is just that.
meh.We are by far the biggest single public site in Ireland, its not even close. We already ARE the establishment in a sense. What I want to do is enshrine what is culturally unique about us so we dont forget that in the coming years. So that this island in the sun will exist and still have its basic tenets at its heart even if I'm dead.
DeV.
Ego.
Maybe let it go
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iWillBeReborn wrote: »You are over thinking this. You are to involved to see the reality. You even think oldskool needs a 98 date when really your previous posts relating to the "past" tell a different story.
It is just a website, really. SA is the same. The difference is DeV thinks that boards.ie is some how going to be the centre of Ireland as far as this website is concerned. People get to excited by nothing.
Like when Lisbon 1 was polled and boards.ie showed a similar vote. Well done. It was mentioned a lot. Not seeing much mention about the Lisbon 2 poll?
I like boards and always have but the illusion of grandeur is just that.
meh.
Ego.
Maybe let it go Let it just grow.
I find the whole thing just a wee bit creepy - that you could invest your identity that much into a website and that you would think people are "passionate" about boards.ie.
"We are by far the biggest single public site in Ireland, its not even close. We already ARE the establishment in a sense. What I want to do is enshrine what is culturally unique about us so we dont forget that in the coming years. So that this island in the sun will exist and still have its basic tenets at its heart even if I'm dead. "
And this quote here is just so out there. I dont even know where to start with how out of proportion these sentiments are.0 -
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No. And its somewhat pot calling kettle black accusing me of hyperbole when you have had a few cases of it yourselfmetrovelvet wrote: »It just sounded like you wanted to forge from the smithy of your soul the uncreated conscience of your race.
However, would you disagree that our "race" (nationality) could do with a conscience? We've gotten to where we are with our politicians because they have forced a conspiracy of silence between journalist who either wont be paid, or wont be given access if they ask the wrong questions, not to mention a constraint on the Freedom Of Information act that China would be proud of.
The only thing I can see with enough power to break that, is the Internet. But it wont do it by itself, so, best to set something up while they havent noticed what we are up to, and "lock in" its independance and culture before someone comes along and tries to subvert its purpose.
I could rant on this topic for ages (decades?) but I need to get to rewritting that "Charter" or it will never get done.
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+10000000 Thats a thing that has always rankled me when people come on and go on about "freedom of speech" on boards(and other irish sites too). It rankles me that people dont seem to have a clue how little freedom of speech we have in this country. Mainly I would say, not through the force of law, but through lack of access or severely controlled access. I have seen that up close with mates who were journos. Most wouldnt credit the degree of constraint that goes on in this country and how many things get swept under the rug to the advantage of a pretty small group of people. I'm not being tin foil hat about this either. In fact those who freak out about 9/11 inconsistencies could do worse than look closer to home.We've gotten to where we are with our politicians because they have forced a conspiracy of silence between journalist who either wont be paid, or wont be given access if they ask the wrong questions, not to mention a constraint on the Freedom Of Information act that China would be proud of.
I agree and I am most certainly not one of those people who think the web will save us all guff either. I'm painfully aware of it's limitations, it's apparent voice etc, but I am also happily aware that as it drifet more into the everyday and not just the freaks and geeks playground it will make a difference. I hope a good one too. Especially in this country.The only thing I can see with enough power to break that, is the Internet.
+1 again. and I really hope someone like you and a place like this does it as it could go very easily pear shaped if one of the usual crew of conduits got their hands on it. Does this mean I agree with some things here? No. I agree with most things though and I'm a moany git. TBH up until maybe a year ago, I never posted here in feedback and the like. I think maybe once. I'm more invested for good or ill(mostly the latter:D) now because I do see places like boards making a diff. Even if that difference is people just chatting and meeting and all that stuff.But it wont do it by itself, so, best to set something up while they havent noticed what we are up to, and "lock in" its independance and culture before someone comes along and tries to subvert its purpose.
Rant for ages? Sorry, rank amateur. I do night classes if you're interested?I could rant on this topic for ages (decades?)
Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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No. And its somewhat pot calling kettle black accusing me of hyperbole when you have had a few cases of it yourself
However, would you disagree that our "race" (nationality) could do with a conscience? We've gotten to where we are with our politicians because they have forced a conspiracy of silence between journalist who either wont be paid, or wont be given access if they ask the wrong questions, not to mention a constraint on the Freedom Of Information act that China would be proud of.
The only thing I can see with enough power to break that, is the Internet. But it wont do it by itself, so, best to set something up while they havent noticed what we are up to, and "lock in" its independance and culture before someone comes along and tries to subvert its purpose.
I could rant on this topic for ages (decades?) but I need to get to rewritting that "Charter" or it will never get done.
DeV.
I believe that you mean well and all I think that all this stuff sounds great, but in my opinion if there are a significant number of inconsistencies when it comes to discussion on certain key subjects then I think it can kinda cheapen or at least question the validity of talking about letting people have a place to speak with civility .
There seems to be different grades of forums where some have a somewhat less serious subject matter than others and of course different rules apply accordingly and in context. Civility in the Zombie Survival or Cork forum may be judged slightly differently compared to other forums. However, if one type of "conscience" is handled differently than an opposing one even with the same level of civility at play (in context of the forum) then it sorta calls into question the fairness and ultimately the whole point of a mission statement if not everyone is on side.0 -
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