Surprisingly high public support for yesterdays strikes

Bruce2008

Dr. Greenthumb wrote: »

the pension levy isn't a paycut!! the pension levy is charging PS workers for the pension contribution that they get from the taxpayers. What if you were in the private sector earning minimum wage? You wouldn't be even able to contribute to a pension!

My wife already contributed to a pension... she will recieve no extra benifit from this pension levy!

Dr. Greenthumb wrote: »

i'm in the private sector and i've taken a 25% paycut so far, my hours have increased by 20 - 25% and pressure / stress has increased tenfold. The PS live in a bubble of ignorance which appears to expand and engulf their spouse also.

only one ignorant person here after that comment!!

Dr. Greenthumb wrote: »

i was getting paid well during the boom but i worked for it by the hours i put in and the constant good performance of projects i was on.

Alot of the PS work hard to at the frontline... not all of them... but alot... just like every workplace!!!

OMD

Tigerbaby wrote: »

Yes, folks, its back to the core of the problem. ALL OF OUR MONEY HAS BEEN HOOVERED UP TO KEEP THE FINANCIAL QUANGOS AFLOAT... ( BANKS, BANKS, BANKS )..

Now, Is that clear enough for you ?

This is not true. Ignore NAMA and the banks. That is a seperate problem.

At present we are spending too much on day to day expenses (get it, not including banks). We now need to do 2 things. Cut spending and increase taxes. If it was solely to be done by raising taxes it would mean that each taxpayer in this country would have to pay an extra 12,000 a year in tax ( whether income tax, property tax or any other tax you care to mention) that cannot happen so there must be cuts as well. So social welfare and public service pay must be cut. These are the real facts of life.

Dr. Greenthumb

Bruce2008 wrote: »

My wife already contributed to a pension... she will recieve no extra benifit from this pension levy!

So does your wife not get any contribution from the government into her pension?

ntlbell

Liam79 wrote: »

I joined my wife and her colleagues for their picket action yesterday, 3 hours standing in the lashing rain. I was shocked and delighted at the amount of support they received from passing motorists. I had feared for them so i came to offer morale support but i need not have! They received huge support in the form of cheers, horns and well wishes from the passing public. And listening to the various Vox Pops on the various radio stations yesterday asking the general public for their view on the strikes it was about 60/40 in support.
So well done people of Ireland. I should never have lost faith.

I passed one out side a hospital were elderly old men where screaming and shouting at them to get to work...

different people with different views, amazing isn't it?

Bruce2008

Dr. Greenthumb wrote: »

Bruce2008 wrote: »

My wife already contributed to a pension... she will recieve no extra benifit from this pension levy!

So does your wife not get any contribution from the government into her pension?

Would love to chat more but my darling wife has just pulled up in her 09 BMW and she probably has had a stressfull day in work, lucky I have booked a supprise break for her in a nice little spa down the country, she deserves it after that stressfull day on strike yesterday! I think I'll take my company merc this time, more of a comfortable drive don't you think?

Dr. Greenthumb

Bruce2008 wrote: »

Dr. Greenthumb wrote: »

Would love to chat more but my darling wife has just pulled up in her 09 BMW and she probably has had a stressfull day in work, lucky I have booked a supprise break for her in a nice little spa down the country, she deserves it after that stressfull day on strike yesterday! I think I'll take my company merc this time, more of a comfortable drive don't you think?

Good dodge of the question there Brucie baby!! Good to see they're not working your wife too hard, finishing at 4 (to allow for travel time) must be nice, keep on at that pace and she might be promoted to chief shovel leaner!!

Bruce2008

Dr. Greenthumb wrote: »

Bruce2008 wrote: »

Good dodge of the question there Brucie baby!! Good to see they're not working your wife too hard, finishing at 4 (to allow for travel time) must be nice, keep on at that pace and she might be promoted to chief shovel leaner!!

The biggest lose that we have suffered during the boom times is the lose of our sense of humour... no money can buy that...

Dr. Greenthumb

and spelling... don't forget spelling Bruce, a big loss so it is!!

jmayo

kwinabeeste wrote: »

I passed 4 pickets yesterday and heard no support. I was stuck at lights at 3 of them and heard no one beep.

I heard from a friend who was striking that they got little beeps from cars except taxis and postmen - but thats hardly supprising?

Maybe OP was on picket near one of the roads north where it appears lots of people, a good majority being PS workers - sorry employees - I would guess, used the opportunity to go shopping ?

seangal wrote: »

got great support from the passing public but i would not expect to get it of most people who are on this as they are FF members

Take that back or step outside now. :mad::mad:
How dare you accuse us of being ffers.
Obviously you are not from around these parts, we have chased all the ffers away, now we have new targets

Bruce2008

Dr. Greenthumb wrote: »

and spelling... don't forget spelling Bruce, a big loss so it is!!

Very true... humour and spelling... and common sense... if I had any I could have done a spell check...

Actually the wife has just come through the door and told me she knocked the mirror off my 99 escort with her 01 fiesta... and me with an NCT next week and four bald tyres... and a bald head!!!! Jeez you do need a sense of humour these days... and there is no spell check on this site!!! is there?

irish_bob

Bruce2008 wrote: »

I am just stating the fact that she has taken a wage cut... more of a wage cut that I have had to take in the private sector... I never said she had it 'so bad'... so please show some education and stop picking on stupid little arguments...

that 7% plus pension levy ( pay cut ) is tax deductable btw so shes only out of pocket to the tune of around 4% , deflation alone wipes those losses out

Fentdog84

whether you're a public or private sector worker, the bottom line is this government has made a complete balls of this country and people need to stand up and be heard that we're having no more of their incompetence lies,& threats. All politicians and bankers want to do is watch their own backs & huge salaries.

Bruce2008

Fentdog84 wrote: »

whether you're a public or private sector worker, the bottom line is this government has made a complete balls of this country and people need to stand up and be heard that we're having no more of their incompetence lies,& threats. All politicians and bankers want to do is watch their own backs & huge salaries.

About time someone (myself included) made a very good contribution to htis thread... it suits the gov to for the people to be at each others throats... Well done Fentdog84... start the bonfires burning... the revolution starts here and now... well there's no footy on telly tonight is there?

Sizzler

Fentdog84 wrote: »

whether you're a public or private sector worker, the bottom line is this government has made a complete balls of this country and people need to stand up and be heard that we're having no more of their incompetence lies,& threats. All politicians and bankers want to do is watch their own backs & huge salaries.

The bankers are supposedley regulated by the financial regulator, who is public sector! So the blame is not solely with the banks, that seems to have gone unnoticed in recent discussions! There was zero regulation during the boom times, what exactly was the regulator and its staff doing for the last few years

Bruce2008 wrote: »

About time someone (myself included) made a very good contribution to htis thread... it suits the gov to for the people to be at each others throats... Well done Fentdog84... start the bonfires burning... the revolution starts here and now... well there's no footy on telly tonight is there?

Agree that there needs to be some sort of showing of solidarity between everybody to oust the governement as they are plainly imbeciles with no credible ideas or strategy and have taken no decisive action to date yet the depression kicked in a year ago, WTF :eek:

Now the next problem is, who do we end up with? Enda Kenny, eh no thanks.

Eamon Gilmore, no f**king way! He's in bed with the unions, the place would be destroyed.

We really are up sh*t creek

Bruce2008

Sizzler wrote: »

We really are up sh*t creek

Just looked out the window... the creek is flooded... and the sh*t is up to the window sill... what now...???

I'd man the lifeboats... but the bank has reposessed them... bet the bank won't go under... in the flood!!!

erictheviking

wilson10 wrote: »

Saw a young woman on Primetime last night, I think she was a physiotherapist, being interviewed on the picket line.
She's on 55K and says she can't afford to take a hit. My heart bleeds for her.
My wife is hardworking and well qualified and out of work for 10 months.
If she was offered a job at half that money she would jump at it.
Some of these people have no idea what's happening in the country.

Lets get real here. Is your wife a physiotherapist? If she was I bet you any money she would NOT work for half the going rate. Nobody and I mean Nobody is comparing like with like on here. Its all just spiteful rants.
Pathetic!

irish_bob

erictheviking wrote: »

Lets get real here. Is your wife a physiotherapist? If she was I bet you any money she would NOT work for half the going rate. Nobody and I mean Nobody is comparing like with like on here. Its all just spiteful rants.
Pathetic!

i love this would not work for that money , since when can anyone name their price in a rescession

ParkRunner

irish_bob wrote: »

i love this would not work for that money , since when can anyone name their price in a rescession

The top brass at the banks did their best anyway!

irish_bob

EF wrote: »

The top brass at the banks did their best anyway!

when all else fails , pull out the banks angle

phill106

Tigerbaby wrote: »

The Public service did not create the economic situation in which all taxpayers find themselves.

Neither did joe soap in the private sector. Yet here i am, after 10 months being unemployed, back working on less money then i was on before (and less money then the poor 31k public sector worker mentioned as the bottom ring of the ladder.
They did not cause the problem, but by their actions they are halting the recovery.
You ask us the stand up agains the government alongside you?
I ask the public sector to sit down, do their job and maybe in a few years when the country is no longer on its knees, then you can try for more money.

zootroid

irish_bob wrote: »

i love this would not work for that money , since when can anyone name their price in a rescession

Exactly, its a free market economy, and if you won't work for a particular salary, you can bet that someone else will

terenc

Public sector workers have their heads stuck up their arse. These people are overpaid and under worked.
Has for the fu#king unions that represent them.:eek::eek:

baza1976

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055750659

Ould Liam didn't get response he thought here either:rolleyes:

Sizzler

baza1976 wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055750659

Ould Liam didn't get response he thought here either:rolleyes:

LOL.

Posted and ran like hell by the looks of it, not one follow up post on the thread, why? Because yet again nobody seems to agree with this apparent "high" public support :rolleyes:

Bruce2008

phill106 wrote: »

Neither did joe soap in the private sector. Yet here i am, after 10 months being unemployed, back working on less money then i was on before (and less money then the poor 31k public sector worker mentioned as the bottom ring of the ladder.
They did not cause the problem, but by their actions they are halting the recovery.
You ask us the stand up agains the government alongside you?
I ask the public sector to sit down, do their job and maybe in a few years when the country is no longer on its knees, then you can try for more money.

Lets be honest Phill, if by some luck or turn of events , the job you are in now paid you the same or more than what you had been earning in the good years, would you hold up your hand and say that you deserve a wage cut for the good of the country?

By not doing so, would you be 'halting the recovery'?

Bruce2008

During the 'Boom' times
(and I don't mean the explosive times!! which are one times we don't want back),

alot of people were living along the lines of - "keep up with the Jones's"

Nowadays alot of people seem to have changed to "keep the Jones's down to my level"

Why would you begrudge someone on 31k?

gollem_1975

Bruce2008 wrote: »

Lets be honest Phill, if by some luck or turn of events , the job you are in now paid you the same or more than what you had been earning in the good years, would you hold up your hand and say that you deserve a wage cut for the good of the country?

By not doing so, would you be 'halting the recovery'?

so in other words...what would happen if he managed to get a job in the public sector.

Bruce2008

gollem_1975 wrote: »

so in other words...what would happen if he managed to get a job in the public sector.

Jeez... keep it quite about the jobs... do you want to start a riot?
Its only the chosen few that will be allowed to join the inner santuary of the 'Public Service', (head bowed in respect), you can't just let anybody from the 'Private Sector' into these jobs!!!:)

Seriously... is 31k a big wage... it is to someone without a job... but that person in the public sector was probably on that wage during the boom times when alot of others were earning alot more!

gollem_1975

Bruce2008 wrote: »

During the 'Boom' times
(and I don't mean the explosive times!! which are one times we don't want back),

alot of people were living along the lines of - "keep up with the Jones's"

Nowadays alot of people seem to have changed to "keep the Jones's down to my level"

Why would you begrudge someone on 31k?

rather than "keeping the jones down to my level" I notice that lots of people are trying to get value for their money now ( look at bargain alerts, recession discounts etc. )
back in the days of the property boom people wouldn't even dream of offering the asking price ( because the EA would laugh at them ) they'd have to offer more. the reverse is happening now. same in the rental market

the public sector wage bill if we were to keep at the current level would require us to borrow 20 billion over what the country is taking in.

this for me does not represent good value for money.

whatever about salary caps in the banks there should be salary caps in the public sector. No way should an taoiseach be earning more than the leaders in other EU countries.

Bruce2008

gollem_1975 wrote: »

rather than "keeping the jones down to my level" I notice that lots of people are trying to get value for their money now ( look at bargain alerts, recession discounts etc. )
back in the days of the property boom people wouldn't even dream of offering the asking price ( because the EA would laugh at them ) they'd have to offer more. the reverse is happening now. same in the rental market

the public sector wage bill if we were to keep at the current level would require us to borrow 20 billion over what the country is taking in.

this for me does not represent good value for money.

whatever about salary caps in the banks there should be salary caps in the public sector. No way should an taoiseach be earning more than the leaders in other EU countries.

I agree with you... but I hate it when people pick on someone earning 31k... even 55k is not an enormous wage for someone with a mortgage, kids, car loan, self imposed costs I do admit, but not an 'out of the ordinary life'!