Manchester United vs Besiktas

Necronomicon

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Group B
25th Nov 2009
KO 19:45
Channels: ITV, RTE2

So, qualification assured but just a little bit more work to do to assure top spot. Given what we've heard from the press conference, I think the team will be something along the lines of:

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PIG/Foster

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Rafael

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Brown---Vidic

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Evra

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Park

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Gibson----Anderson/Scholes--Obertan/Nani----

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Kiko/Wellbeck

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Owen/Wellbeck

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The back 4 pretty much picks itself with injuries. We know that Rafael, Park and Gibson are starters. The question marks I'd have on the above are Nani starting in place of Obertan (don't want it to happen, but it would be a bad sign for Nani if he didn't start this game imo) and up front - I think it will be 2 of Wellbeck, Kiko and Owen. I might have predicted Wellbeck on the right wing, but not after confirmation of Park starting. I've heard Berbatov should be alright to make his comeback, but remains to be seen if it's from the start or off the bench.

Prediction: 3-0

Boggles

Rooney is starting, the main man confirmed it yesterday.

Mitch Connor

Boggles wrote: »

Rooney is starting, the main man confirmed it yesterday.

did he? Don;t remember seeing that. Just read Raf, Gibson, Park and Obertan were starters, and that at least one from Kiko and Welbeck will start, maybe both.

Necronomicon

Really? I missed that one somehow. Tough call so as to who'll partner him.

Boggles

Ye sure, could have sworn I heard him say he would be true to the fans and take the night seriously and start Rooney???

Fenix

I'd be very surprised if Rooney started.

Would think it'll be Owen and (probably) Kiko. Always like these sort of games, good chance to see the fringe players trying to push themselves.

The jury is still out on Obertan for me, will defidefinitely be keeping an eye on him and hopefully Fergie ill give him a start, although NOT starting Nani would surely be a big clue as to how SAF is rating him at the moment.

Headshot

ssn were reporting Rooney will start tonight

Paul Tergat

Well if he does play I think we will see a better performance than what he produced at the weekend.

Looking forward to seeing a good few players tonight. Be nice to get a win and build some momentum

Boggles

Anyone else see the press conference yesterday??

Swear to God I thought I heard Fergie say Rooney would definately start because he didn't want to make a mockery of the tie.

Or am I going completely off my fooking head??

Necronomicon

Boggles wrote: »

Anyone else see the press conference yesterday??

Swear to God I thought I heard Fergie say Rooney would definately start because he didn't want to make a mockery of the tie.

Or am I going completely off my fooking head??

Didn't see it, but Sky didn't mention it in their preview:

As part of his tinkering, Ferguson has already confirmed that Irish youngster Darron Gibson will start in midfield.

The 22-year-old is on the fringes of the first team at the moment and Ferguson is obviously keen for him to progress.

Rio Ferdinand, Jonny Evans and John O'Shea are all sidelined - so Wes Brown should be expected to start alongside Nemanja Vidic in central defence.

The likes of Danny Welbeck, Federico Macheda and Gabriel Obertan will all be hoping to be involved from the start - but they all may have to make do with starting from the bench.

http://www.skysports.com/football/match_preview/0,19764,11065_3190149,00.html

Then again they didn't mention that Park and Rafael were definite starters either.

Paul Tergat

Been looking around a few sites Boggles and havent found any direct quote from SAF but the BBC gives this as a squad:


Man Utd (from): Foster, Kuszczak, Rafael, Brown, Vidic, Evra, Anderson, Fletcher, Valencia, Giggs, Scholes, Carrick, Park, Gibson, Obertan, Nani, Rooney, Owen, Berbatov, Welbeck, Macheda.

Boggles

I'm going mad so.

Headshot

Boggles wrote: »

I'm going mad so.

it was just a matter of time tbf

Paul Tergat

Headshot wrote: »

it was just a matter of time tbf

aye it was either Boggles breaks the internet or what we've evidenced today!



Looking forward to seeing more of Obertan tonight. Hope he gets as much of the full 90 as possible.

daveyboy_1ie

Boggles wrote: »

I'm going mad so.

LOL.....he does need a game like this though to try and nick one and get back in the scoring groove. I would personally prefer to see Kiko partnered with Welbeck to see if they can cut it at this level. He tried it last season in the FA Cup semi against Everton and although they done ok, not as well as I hoped and hoepfully they can step up to the plate this season. Maybe partner Macheda with Owen and drop Welbeck back to midfield.

Besides I have a few quid on them both scoring tonight anyway, so obviosly want them playing.

mink_man

cmon utd!

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any team news

RasTa

Whois 2nd in our group? CSKA are beating Wolfsburg 2-1 atm with 20mins left. That good for us topping the group?

Gillington

Anderson
Brown, Wes
Foster, Ben
Gibson, Darron
Macheda, Federico
Neville, Gary
Obertan, Gabriel
Park, Ji Sung
Rafael
Vidic, Nemanja
Welbeck, Danny

Sorry its in alphabetical

deisedevil

RasTa wrote: »

Whois 2nd in our group? CSKA are beating Wolfsburg 2-1 atm with 20mins left. That good for us topping the group?

If it stays like that we top the group win, lose or draw tonight if I'm right.

flahavaj

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Foster

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Raf----Browne----Vida--G nev

Park----Ando

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Gibson----Obertan

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Wellbeck

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Macheda

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I presume.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

flahavaj wrote: »

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Foster

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Raf----Browne----Vida--G nev

Park----Ando

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Gibson----Obertan

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Wellbeck

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Macheda

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I presume.

I'd say Rafael with be on the left, with Neville on the right.

kenon

Good to see Obertan get a start.

flahavaj

Oaklee Modern Lubricant wrote: »

I'd say Rafael with be on the left, with Neville on the right.

Could just as easily. I just thought Nev as the more experienced pro would be asked to move and let the young lad play his natural position.

RasTa

Gamboooooooooool €100 on Macheda anytime @ 15/8

IrishIrish

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Foster

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Neville----Brown----Vida--Rafael

Obertan----Ando

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Gibson----Park

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Wellbeck

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Macheda

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My guess. Would be surprised if it wasn't.

kenon

For any Besiktas supporters

Besiktas: Recber, Kas, Ferrari, Toraman, Uzulmez, Fink, Ernst, Dag, Tello, Koybasi, Bobo.
Subs: Celikay, Karadeniz, Rodrigo Tabata, Inceman, Yusuf Simsek, Guven, Zengin.

jaykay74

deisedevil wrote: »

If it stays like that we top the group win, lose or draw tonight if I'm right.

We might need a point tonight. think we are 3 ahead of the germans and the last game is against them. If they beat us in a couple of weeks they may finish ahead on head to head record. draw would tonight would fix that though as long as it stays the same in russia.

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the list of second placed teams after tonight could be interesting as to the outcome of the match vs Stuttgart

deisedevil

jaykay74 wrote: »

We might need a point tonight. think we are 3 ahead of the germans and the last game is against them. If they beat us in a couple of weeks they may finish ahead on head to head record. draw would tonight would fix that though as long as it stays the same in russia.

Your right. Rushed post never checked it properly.

PHB

Tonight will be interesting. About 8 players there are playing to prove they can make it at United. Looking forward to this an awful lot.

JerryHandbag

The Besiktas jersey = Golf sweater

MagicMarker

Looks like Obertan is on the right.

kenon

Decent start. I liked Obertan's first touch.

MagicMarker

Jaysus, the Besiktas fans are making a racket anyway!

ROCKMAN

Park and Obertan look up for it ,

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kiko looks well up for this

ROCKMAN

Vidic :eek::eek::eek:

MementoMori

PHB wrote: »

Tonight will be interesting. About 8 players there are playing to prove they can make it at United. Looking forward to this an awful lot.

Neville and who're the other seven???:)

SlickRic

welbeck is looking the most likely.

flahavaj

Liking Obertan's confidence and close control.

MagicMarker

Woah.

kenon

Shìt.

flahavaj

Cracker by besiktas.
Edit: Defelction off Rafa. Should have been out to him quicker, Foster could've reacted better as well.

SlickRic

foster was very slow to that.

i wouldn't worry though.

you'll tank them.

redout

Fu*k me

1 - 0

Where did that come from ?

Headshot

lol

shamblertine

poor keeping

MagicMarker

shamblertine wrote: »

poor keeping

Na, deflection, can't save em all!

Harpy

nice goal.. think foster could of done a bit better tbh. although it did take a bit of a deflection so that could of caught him..

ROCKMAN

DAM

was about to blame foster , but little deflection really done him.

Good test now for this young team/players

Come on