Road tax goods vechile (parking)

dave1982

Hi after getting a van tax as a good's vechile.I have been told these have less parking restriction's is that true where is ok to park.My mother in law live on a city street where resident parking permit';s are required her husband tell's me it ok to park a commerical tax van there.Not that i'll be letting it there all day or anything just if i call there.Could it be clamped towed same as a car.Sorry if a stupid question

Big Nasty

AFAIK it only allows you to park in street loading / unloading areas for a certain length of time, probably an hour. Wouldn't imagine you'll get much better than that.

balcan

same laws apply parking a van as they do a car,permit or disc,exception to loading bays,usually allowed 1/2 hour or risk getting a ticket for exceeding time like i've got on my van mostly in cork city

Wishbone Ash

30 minutes but you must be actively loading or unloading.

cormie

Yeah, you're allowed 30 minutes in a loading bay and must be actively loading and as far as I know, some time is also allowed for paper work. Pay and Display area can also be used for loading for 30 minutes without a disc. I'm not sure if this is nationwide or just depends on the council but I know in DLRCC it's ok.

Lucifer

When you say actively loading or unloading, what exactly does this mean, as I have often parked a commercial in a loading bay to deliver something into a building, but while im in there I dont leave the van with the doors open etc, it will be locked up for the 2 or 3 mins I am gone. I assume this would count as actively unloading/loading as I am not leaving the van parked there for a half hour while off shopping? Just wondering if anyone knows?

cormie

Well I mean they can't expect you to get your goods without going in to get them. I think vans are only ever given tickets or clamped if the wardens have been around the block and come back to your van 40 minutes later and it's still there with nobody around. They'd have far too many people contesting it if they were in getting the goods for 10 minutes.

Wishbone Ash

Lucifer wrote: »

I assume this would count as actively unloading/loading as I am not leaving the van parked there for a half hour while off shopping? Just wondering if anyone knows?

Yes, that would be OK. Basically, it's to prevent lads from parking in a loading bay and heading off to have a breakfast etc.

galwaytt

...not a silly question, but know this.

If we're talking outside of marked loading bays, and resident's permit's are required.............you won't get one for a Commercially taxed vehicle.

No, I don't get it either, but I'm aware of someone this is causing huge problems for, living as they do in a resident-permit area, and the Comm being his transport (double cab Toyota). It's going legal afaik over the issue.

Wishbone Ash

cormie wrote: »

Well I mean they can't expect you to get your goods without going in to get them

Cormie - you are obsessed with loading. Most commercial vehials are UNLOADING in loading bays.

cormie wrote:

I think vans are only ever given tickets or clamped if the wardens have been around the block and come back to your van 40 minutes later and it's still there with nobody around. They'd have far too many people contesting it if they were in getting the goods for 10 minutes.

The Dublin fruit and veg market can be a real pain in the arse if a Garda jobsworth is around. Anyone who is familiar with it will know that, at 5am, the only other drivers around are other van/truck drivers queing to be loaded. Yet, occasionally, a Garda will force us to keep moving even though there are no ordinary motorists being hampered. So instead of a group of vehicles queueing patiently to be loaded, we have a group of vehicles continuously driving around the block in a queue! :rolleyes:

cormie

Wont get one what galwaytt? A residents permit for a commercially taxed vehicle? You definitely can in DLRCC

However, Dave1982 probably won't be able to get one for the Mother in law's place as it's not his place of residence.

Victor

galwaytt wrote: »

If we're talking outside of marked loading bays, and resident's permit's are required.............you won't get one for a Commercially taxed vehicle.

That will depend on the council where he is. Certainly in the Dublin City area, vehicles up to 3t can get resident's permits.

Wishbone Ash

galwaytt wrote: »

living as they do in a resident-permit area, and the Comm being his transport (double cab Toyota)

The local authority is probably erring on the side of caution. It's not a popular thing to say, especially in these recessionary times, but a commercially taxed vehicle is supposed to be used solely for work use. Many van drivers use their vehicles for social, domestic and pleasure use but do not declare this when applying for commercial tax. Perhaps the local authority is attempting to clamp down on this?

cormie

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Cormie - you are obsessed with loading. Most commercial vehials are UNLOADING in loading bays.


The Dublin fruit and veg market can be a real pain in the arse if a Garda jobsworth is around. Anyone who is familiar with it will know that, at 5am, the only other drivers around are other van/truck drivers queing to be loaded. Yet, occasionally, a Garda will force us to keep moving even though there are no ordinary motorists being hampered. So instead of a group of vehicles queueing patiently to be loaded, we have a group of vehicles continuously driving around the block in a queue! :rolleyes:

Ah yeah, sure I spend 29 minutes in loading bays a lot of the time if I'm doing a move. I could also have to unload of course, but I guess loading can be used as a term for both as the name of the bay goes

On what I said earlier about the pay and display being ok for loading, I actually got clamped before loading while parked in a pay and display. I must check that out actually. I already appealed it and got refused, but I definitely heard somebody in DLRCC saying pay and display can be used for loading too. I've never seen this outlined anywhere in writing though.

Victor

cormie wrote: »

I definitely heard somebody in DLRCC saying pay and display can be used for loading too.

It can, but you have to pay the pay & display prices.

cormie

Oh no, I heard you don't have to pay if you're using it for loading Just tried to ring them there but they are closed. Will try find out anyway because if that's written in law anywhere then I'm going to re-appeal the clamping and get my 80 euro back