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If u've driven through a flood then damage is covered under ur comprehensive policy

  • 25-11-2009 10:59pm
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    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/motors/2009/1125/1224259388500.html

    THE FULL cost of the devastation caused by floods over the last week remains unclear and the priorities lie with clean water supply and shelter. However, when the necessities have been catered for and houses begin to be repaired, the next problem for many will be the damage to cars.
    Many vehicles were submerged in flood waters where they were parked, while others stalled in the middle of flooded roads, their drivers wrongly judging the depth of the swells.
    Water can cause major problems to something as complex as a car, with its many mechanical and electrical elements.
    According to Martin Dunne, technical manager for Peugeot in Ireland, if you’ve driven through a flood the major risk is sucking water into the engine. “Water doesn’t compress so you are going to do very expensive damage to your engine. Even if you are lucky enough to avoid getting water into the engine you can still get water into the brakes and steering and end up losing the use of both.”
    In terms of the potential damage to engines, Dunne says problems become apparent pretty quickly. “Particularly with a diesel engine that has sucked in water, you’re going to see quite a bit of smoke pretty soon after driving through the water, or the next time the engine is started cold. With petrols, if you damage the con-rods, sometimes it takes a little longer to become apparent.”
    As for cars that have been parked up but submerged in flood waters, clearly they don’t escape from damage. “The engine hasn’t been running so that’s a positive point, but the electrics will still be soaked,” says Dunne. “Modern cars have quite a lot of electronics on board. Just imagine submerging your TV and consider the damage that would cause to it. In a car, submerged up to the bonnet for example, the electrical wiring and electronics are soaked and may corrode in due course.” A car’s electrics are normally protected against rain showers but are rarely watertight or resistant to total submersion.
    In terms of repair, it really depends on the value of the car; when you get into replacing some of the electronic components the price really starts to rise. “In certain cases its simply not cost effective to repair.”
    That’s where the insurance companies enter the fray. Michael Horan of the Irish Insurance Federation says if you’ve got comprehensive insurance, then this sort of damage should be covered under that policy. “If you believe your car has been damaged by flood water, the safest thing to do is to ring your insurance company promptly so someone can inspect the car.”
    Some readers have e-mailed us fearing the insurance company won’t pay for the repairs as they drove into flood waters, misjudging the depth. Horan reassures us that the comprehensive cover still apples. “If you’ve driven through a flood then this is regarded as accidental damage and is covered under your comprehensive policy. Weve been here before with floods. It’s well-known that serious damage can be caused and the insurance firms are well able to cope with the claims.”
    In terms of whether a car will be repaired or written-off, that decision rests with the normal policy procedures. “The motor engineer will make a judgement on whether the car is repairable: if not it will be written-off. That’s the way the policy works.”Will all the likely claims for flood damage to cars result in increases in the cost of motor premiums next year? According to Horan, it’s too early to say. “Motor claims costs went up last year by about 24 per cent. The biggest element of motor claims costs is actually personal injuries - that accounts for about 70 per cent of the total costs of claims. Accidental damage claims like those for floods account for a smaller part. Its too early to say what affect the floods will have on premiums next year.”
    So what if you encounter a flooded road: what’s the advice? The first thing you need to know is the depth. It’s a difficult call, but you also need to know the location and height of the air intake for your engine. Next tip is to wait until any oncoming car has passed through before entering. That way you will be able to judge the depth and also avoid and swells or ripples that may wash into the engine air-intake.
    “If you are sure the depth is below a dangerous level, then you should pass through it slowly, with a low gear and high revs. When you emerge from the water, make sure your brakes and steering are okay before you go on. In a safe area, test the brakes.

    Just thought some people might be interested in this based on some of the threads we've seen on here recently...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    High revs? i thought: more revs, more water will be cucked into engine....


    Anyway, got friend who drove a 09 focus in to a "pool", engine gone, so he is trying to get insurance to cover it..

    will see how he will do..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭Tipsy Mac


    I have heard if your "knowingly" risk your car driving through a flood it invalidates your insurance cover, how this is decided I don't know.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    "Oh no, I lost control and slid into this canal. New car please insurance company, thanks :) "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,839 ✭✭✭✭cormie


    How do you know how deep your car can go? I've had to drive through some shallow enough ones, one big enough one another guy was in front of me on approach so I stopped and waited to see how he got on before I went through, he made it so I did too. If I was on my own I might have waited for another car to take the risk but is there a way to tell just how deep you can go?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭sogood


    I tried to do the right thing recently, as shown above: waiting until the car approaching me (in the centre of the road, being the highest point) had come through the water and past me, before I moved on, when the clown behind me started honking! I stayed put until all was clear, then he tailgated me all the way through, taking a chance that I wouldn't stall and thus leave him out to dry, or the opposite as the case may be!


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    sogood wrote: »
    I tried to do the right thing recently, as shown above: waiting until the car approaching me (in the centre of the road, being the highest point) had come through the water and past me, before I moved on, when the clown behind me started honking! I stayed put until all was clear, then he tailgated me all the way through, taking a chance that I wouldn't stall and thus leave him out to dry, or the opposite as the case may be!

    What a tool for tailgating you as you went through,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,616 ✭✭✭milltown


    Cabaal wrote: »
    What a tool for tailgating you as you went through,

    Maybe not so stupid. By driving in the other guy's wake he's driving in even less water. Granted, he's taking a risk on the guy in front making it through and not jamming on or anything.

    I'm not condoning the horn honking though. Down with that sort of thing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    Tipsy Mac wrote: »
    I have heard if your "knowingly" risk your car driving through a flood it invalidates your insurance cover, how this is decided I don't know.
    Deliberate acts are never covered under ANY class of insurance. However, stupidity is perfectly acceptable as it the majority of claims are down to this;)
    All claims are investigated and, for example, if a driver can see a few cars stranded in fron of him up to the roof and then 'decides' to drive on, he could have a problem claiming an accidental cause


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