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Bokeh

  • 26-11-2009 1:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭


    Ultimate Cheese fest.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    i love bokeh


    especially when its used in the correct sense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    What's the incorrect way?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    some believe bokeh is basically the oof blur. i however am adiment that is not bokeh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭DaireQuinlan


    some believe bokeh is basically the oof blur. i however am adiment that is not bokeh

    Thats ok, I often make up completely wrongheaded private meanings for otherwise well understood words aswell :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    Not time to digest these replies as I'm out but I love background blur/bokeh and really miss this on my f4 24-105L....I far prefer this lens to the 24-70L cept for the bokeh.
    I hate the way Canon take so long to release good quality L lens replacements.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Captain Flaps


    Were you intending for the bokeh to look like hearts or was that just a happy coincidence?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭charybdis


    some believe bokeh is basically the oof blur. i however am adiment that is not bokeh

    What is bokeh?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    charybdis wrote: »
    What is bokeh?

    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/bokeh.shtml

    the dots of out of focus light... in a nutshell


    imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,281 ✭✭✭Ricky91t


    Now i want a 50mm f/1.4 even ore :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭DaireQuinlan


    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/bokeh.shtml

    the dots of out of focus light... in a nutshell


    imo

    I'm confused as to why you link to an article that, if anything, actually CONTRADICTS your opinion ?

    Anyhow, the general understanding of the word 'bokeh' is the 'quality' of the OOF areas. Its a qualititive term. So it's not actually accurate to describe an image as having 'bokeh' as such. It might have smooth bokeh, or harsh bokeh, or (worst of all) nisen-bokeh :rolleyes: and other pixel peepery terminology


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭dakar


    charybdis wrote: »
    What is bokeh?

    Bokeh is a Japanese word that doesn't translate easily into our western cultural experience, and is not easy to explain in a simple phrase but the closest equivalent is 'when two or more otherwise vaguely rational individuals cannot come to an agreement about what a Japanese word means'.





    :P


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    dakar wrote: »
    Bokeh is a Japanese word that doesn't translate easily into our western cultural experience, and is not easy to explain in a simple phrase but the closest equivalent is 'when two or more otherwise vaguely rational individuals cannot come to an agreement about what a Japanese word means'.





    :P

    Clear as crystal now...if a bit (controlled) blurry in the background.

    It could do with a Haiku to explain it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭Covey


    Not time to digest these replies as I'm out but I love background blur/bokeh and really miss this on my f4 24-105L....I far prefer this lens to the 24-70L cept for the bokeh.
    I hate the way Canon take so long to release good quality L lens replacements.

    Prime lenses... way to go :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭dakar


    humberklog wrote: »
    It could do with a Haiku to explain it.

    I love a challenge!:) No strictly in the classical style, but the best I can come up with at short notice:


    In light rays scatter

    Softly blurred or circle bright

    Seeds of discord sown


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,046 ✭✭✭democrates


    I looked into this. The word boke used in Nippon to describe blur or haze actually derives from the Manchurian concatenation of bo-kai which meant 'confusing outlook'. This was recorded in clay tablets dated to ~5,500BC in a dig but these were being carried by obsidian traders returning to mesopotamia, so according to scholars it's most likely original derivation is therefore from the Babylonian phrase 'pok-ai' or in middle english 'poke eye' which as Baldrick will testify yields the optical condition beautifully illustrated by the OP. OP means Original Point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Barname


    yeah, love bukkake . . .


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭KarmaGarda


    An argument on Bokeh could go on for aaaages! But the best description I've heard for bokeh is anything with backround blur in the oof places... BUT, there's a difference between good bokeh and bad bokeh. If it just looks out of focus or jaggy, it's usually not good bokeh. It's very subjective all the same so I won't even try pretend it's black & white.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭Nisio


    In some parts of the country (northern predominently) if some one mentioned they were looking for a good bokeh you'd stand back to mind your shoes (or hold their hair back if they were a girl)

    (something about the onamatopoeia of the word/action)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Barname


    Nisio wrote: »
    In some parts of the country (northern predominently) if some one mentioned they were looking for a good bokeh you'd stand back to mind your shoes (or hold their hair back if they were a girl)

    (something about the onamatopoeia of the word/action)

    no, that would be bukkake not bokeh (both are 'Japanese' words)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Barname wrote: »
    yeah, love bukkake . . .
    double_trek_facepalm.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭DaireQuinlan


    Brief note to the curious. While in work do NOT ...
    1. Google for 'bukkake'
    2. Click on 'images'
    3. Turn safesearch 'off'

    Goggles, real acid, they do nothing, blah blah blah


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,146 ✭✭✭Morrisseeee


    Brief note to the curious. While in work do NOT ...
    Damn, now you tell me. Too late I'm afraid, my supervisor just happened to be standing behind me ! and then Alanis Morrissetteeee (no relation:D) comes on the radio singing........"Isn't it ironic" :eek:

    Bring back DOF Friday I say !!!!!!
    Anyone remember that ? eeek


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭pete4130


    C'mon guys, just enjoy the pretty heart shaped lights while you can.

    I'll get the girl in the photo and see if she wants to do a bukkake series......I just asked her she's up for it!!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    I can +1 that the girl in the photo is well up for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    pete4130 wrote: »
    C'mon guys, just enjoy the pretty heart shaped lights while you can.

    I'll get the girl in the photo and see if she wants to do a bukkake series......I just asked her she's up for it!!! :D

    Great shot Pete

    and everybody else, shut the f**k up about bleedin bokeh. Every thread on the forum becomes a shouting match about pure sh**e


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭pete4130


    Thanks Keith. I was hoping for other people to jump on the cheesy shaped bokeh buzz for this time of year :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    Very cool Pete


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    Bonus points for Christmas tree shaped bokeh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭pete4130


    Fajitas! wrote: »
    Bonus points for Christmas tree shaped bokeh.

    Voila!

    Excuse the poor Xmas tree shape!

    Xmasbokehsmall.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,319 ✭✭✭sineadw


    pete4130 wrote: »
    Voila!

    Excuse the poor Xmas tree shape!

    Fix!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    bokeh is not just the quality of the OOF areas, its how the IF mets the OOF, how they blend together. the shape of the aperture/amount of blades(circular anyway at widest) doesnt effect the smoothness, it only effects the shape of the bokeh rings which are just 1 part of bokeh

    And its more than just harsh or smooth, theres different qualities in smoothness particularly in the mid tones I believe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭DaireQuinlan


    Fajitas! wrote: »
    Bonus points for Christmas tree shaped bokeh.

    Doubleplusgood bonus points for christmas tree shaped bokeh ... on a picture of a christmas tree ...
    Oooooo
    Probably have to wait a bit for that one, though, depressingly, not too long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,624 ✭✭✭✭Fajitas!


    sineadw wrote: »
    Fix!

    Nevar!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,067 ✭✭✭AnimalRights


    Lemon shaped bokeh to the left of the picture. :p

    CE89F2D82698447BA723403CA06A0A98-800.jpg



    I've never seen Keith cuss b4, shocked tbh.


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