League of Ireland transfers/rumours [Mod Note Post #1, #750]

Gavin "shels"

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With the close season on now, what's the rumours and transfers you've heard? (Sources if possible).

Kevin Long from Cork City to Burnley
Brian Murphy from Bohs to Ipswich
James Chamers from Drogs to Shams
Chris Turner from Dundalk to Sligo Rovers
Michael Collins from Dundalk to Crusaders


Glen Crowe , Neale Fenn, Barry Murphy, Ronan Finn all linked with Sporting Fingal.

Simon Madden, Darragh Maguire, Shane Robinson and Corey Tracey all released by Shams. Supposely Darragh Maguire is off back to Pats.

GLaDOS

Barry Murphy, Cretaro, Boca and Ronan Finn all supposedly linked with Bohs (Just what the forum's saying, but you wanted rumours )

Most important thing for us though is to try and keep as mcuh as last seasons squad together

kippy

There was a list released yesterday with approx 110 "professional" players based in Ireland that were available for contract. There were some good players there too and a memo from the FAI that anyone not picked up on contract would be training with some FAI coach to keep up their fitness in Jan should they not get a club.
I see a lot of "transfers" coming off this list, based on the financial situation at many clubs at this minute in time.


Can someone give me a bit of background on sporting fingal? I see them as being a big force next year, they seem to have a few things over most clubs in the top division, the main one being a non crippling debt issue, coupled with some cold hard cash.

elshambo

Apparently there are a good few lads on the free transfer list who will be staying with their clubs

They are just on there as a technicality due to their current contracts being up and new ones cannot be signed until December.

Why you call your post "beta blocker"?> To stop people having heart attacks if they saw the FAI free transfer list

Gavin "shels"

kippy wrote: »

Can someone give me a bit of background on sporting fingal? I see them as being a big force next year, they seem to have a few things over most clubs in the top division, the main one being a non crippling debt issue, coupled with some cold hard cash.

Indeed they do, Pats, Dundalk, Bohs, etc... have all cut their budgets or are sticking to their cut budgets from last year. Bohs has a €1,000 per week wages cap now per player. Fingal imo will have the highest wage bill in the League next season if you include the rent for the apartments that are given to some players as part of their contract.

elshambo wrote: »

Apparently there are a good few lads on the free transfer list who will be staying with their clubs

They are just on there as a technicality due to their current contracts being up and new ones cannot be signed until December.

The people on the PFAI list are players who are out of contract AND have agreed to be put onto that. There are more players in the League out of contract but have selected not to be on the list.

elshambo

Gavin shels wrote: »

The people on the PFAI list are players who are out of contract AND have agreed to be put onto that. There are more players in the League out of contract but have selected not to be on the list.

yes they all agreed to go on it but some are apparently still looking to stay where they are

which was the point of my post

monkey9

kippy wrote: »

There was a list released yesterday with approx 110 "professional" players based in Ireland that were available for contract. There were some good players there too and a memo from the FAI that anyone not picked up on contract would be training with some FAI coach to keep up their fitness in Jan should they not get a club.
I see a lot of "transfers" coming off this list, based on the financial situation at many clubs at this minute in time.


Can someone give me a bit of background on sporting fingal? I see them as being a big force next year, they seem to have a few things over most clubs in the top division, the main one being a non crippling debt issue, coupled with some cold hard cash.

NAME

DATE OF BIRTH
PLACE OF BIRTH NATIONALITY HEIGHT WEIGHT POSITION 2nd CHOICE POSITION LAST CLUB REGISTERED WITH
Richie Baker 17.04.80 Dublin Irish 5'7" 11st7lb Right Midfield Right Forward Shelbourne ****
Shane Barrett 23.11.1981 Luton Irish 5'11 76kg Centre Forward Left Midfield Drogheda Utd ****
Chris Bennion 30.08.1980 Edinburgh Scottish 6'2" 14st Goalkeeper Dundalk
Karl Bermingham 06.10.2009 Dublin Irish 6" 12st5lb Centre Forward Left Forward Monaghan Utd
Greg Bolger 09.09.1988 Wexford Irish 5'11" 73.5kg Centre Midfield Centre Midfield UCD
Fintan Bonnar 25.10.1986 Letterkenny Irish 5'7" 62kg Left Midfield Left Forward Finn Harps
Billy Brennan 06.03.1985 Kilkenny Irish 6'1" 80kg Goalkeeper UCD
Stephen Brennan 26.03.1983 Shankill Irish 5'8" 72kg Right Back Centre Midfield Bray Wanderers ****
Marc Brolly 11.09.1986 Derry Irish 6'0" 12st Left Midfield Left Forward Finn Harps
Richard Brush 26.11.1984 Birmingham English 186cm 14st Goalkeeper Sligo Rovers ****
Liam Burns 30.10.1978 N.Ireland Irish 6'1" 90kg Centre Back Dundalk ****
Chris Butler 18.10.1984 Liverpool English 6'0" 11st8lb Left Back Centre Midfield Sligo Rovers
Alan Byrne 21.07.1983 Dublin Irish 6'2" 14st Centre Back Centre Midfield Monaghan Utd
Paul Byrne 19.05.1986 Dublin Irish 6'2" 81kg Centre Forward Bray Wanderers
Stuart Byrne 04.11.1976 Dublin Irish 5'10" 80kg Centre Midfield Centre Back St. Patricks Athletic ****
James Chambers 14.02.1987 Dublin Irish 6'0" 80kg Centre Midfield Right Back Drogheda Utd ****
Ciaran Coll 19.08.1991 Letterkenny Irish 5'10" 10st Left Back Left Midfield Finn Harps
Christy Connaghan 26.09.1988 Letterkenny Irish 5'9" 11st4lb Right Midfield Centre Midfield Finn Harps
Glenn Cronin 14.09.1981 Dublin Irish 5'10" 77kg Centre Midfield Bohemians ****
Kevin Cronin 18.05.1985 Dublin Irish 6'0" 11st7lb Left Back Centre Back Longford Town
Glen Crowe 25.12.1977 Dublin Irish 5'10" 88kg Centre Forward Bohemians ****
Gary Curran 22.09.1987 Sligo Irish 5'8" 12st Centre Midfield Longford Town ****
Michael Daly 10.01.1989 New York Irish 6'1" 78kg Centre Midfield Right Midfield Dundalk ****
Chris Deans 05.01.1985 Dublin Irish 6'0" 13st Centre Back Bray Wanderers
Paul Deasy 27.09.1988 Cork Irish 180cm 67kg Centre Forward Right Midfield Cork City
Dean Delany 15.09.1980 Dublin Irish 6'2" 13st Goalkeeper Shelbourne
Gary Dempsey 15.01.1981 Wexford Irish 5'10" 11st2lb Centre Midfield Left Midfield St. Patricks Athletic ****
Daire Doyle 18.10.1980 Dublin Irish 5'11" 12st4lb Centre Midfield Right Back Bray Wanderers
Derek Doyle 30.04.1986 Dublin Irish 6'1" 80kg Left Midfield Left Forward Shelbourne
Shane Duggan 11.03.1989 Limerick Irish 5'7" 11st Centre Midfield Left Midfield Cork City
David Ennis 07.02.1986 Dublin Irish 5'10" 13st Goalkeeper
Robbie Farrell 16.01.1978 Dublin Irish 6'2" 13st Centre Forward Drogheda Utd
Ronan Finn 21.12.1987 Dublin Irish 6'0" 71kg Centre Midfield UCD ****
Lorcan Fitzgerald 03.01.1989 Dublin Irish 5'8" 69kg Left Back Centre Midfield Sporting Fingal
Anthony Flood 31.12.1984 Dublin Irish 6'1" 12st Centre Forward Right Forward Shelbourne ****
Eric Foley 30.01.1990 Dublin Irish Centre Midfield Right Back Sporting Fingal ****
Michael Foley 09.03.1983 Dublin Irish 5'6" 11st Left Midfield Centre Midfield Longford Town
Michael Funston 15.05.1985 Letterkenny Irish 5'9" 11st Centre Midfield Right Midfield Finn Harps
Derek Foran 09.10.1989 Dublin Irish 6'1" Centre Back Right Back Bray Wanderers
Mark Forker 03.04.1988 Letterkenny Irish 5'9" 11st7lb Right Midfield Centre Midfield Finn Harps
David Freeman 25.11.1979 Dublin Irish 5'11" 11st7lb Centre Forward Right Forward Monaghan Utd
Brian Gartland 04.11.1986 Dublin Irish 6'2" 88kg Centre Back Right Back Monaghan Utd
Conor Gethins 01.11.1983 Lifford Irish 5'7" 11st Centre Forward Left Forward Finn Harps ****
Steven Gray 17.10.1981 Dublin Irish 6'3" 85kg Centre Back Left Back Derry City ****
Shane Grimes 09.03.1987 Dundalk Irish 6'0" 12st Left Back Left Midfield Monaghan Utd
Daragh Hanaphy 12.02.1988 Dublin Irish 5'11" 12st3lb Centre Forward Right Midfield Monaghan Utd
Owen Heary 04.10.1976 Dublin Irish 5'10" 79kg Right Back Centre Back Bohemians ****
Des Hope 21.01.1982 Dublin Irish 6'2" 12st7lb Centre Back Athlone Town
Peter Hynes 28.11.1983 Dublin Irish 6'1" 14st Centre Forward Shelbourne ****
Colm James 17.06.1983 Dublin Irish 5'9" Centre Midfield Right Back Sporting Fingal
Colm Jinks 13.06.1984 Sligo Irish 5'8" 10st7lb Centre Midfield Right Back Longford Town
Alan Keane 23.09.1984 Galway Irish 5'10" 12st Centre Back Right Back Sligo Rovers ****
Shaun Kelly 09.03.1989 Killybegs Irish 5'10" Right Back Right Midfield Dundalk ****
Timmy Kiely 07.03.1989 Clonmel Irish 180cm 78kg Centre Forward Right Forward Cork City ****
Thomas King 30.06.1989 Castlebar Irish 5'11" 10st7lb Right Back Right Midfield Longford Town
Fahrudin Kuduzovic 10.10.1984 Vlasenica British 180cm 79kg Centre Forward Centre Midfield Cork City ****
John Lester 05.08.1982 Dublin Irish 5'11" 88kg Centre Midfield Centre Back St Patrick's Athletic
Cillian Lordan 06.07.1982 Cork Irish 181cm 72kg Centre Midfield Right Back Cork City
Aidan Lynch 29.08.1977 Dublin Irish 5'11" 11st7lb Centre Back Monaghan Utd
David McAllister 29.12.1988 Dublin Irish 5'11" 80kg Centre Midfield Right Midfield Shelbourne
Paul McAreavey 03.12.1980 Belfast Irish 6'0" 13st Centre Midfield Left Back Dundalk
Fiachra McArdle 18.08.1984 Dundalk Irish 5'9" 11st Right Midfield Left Midfield Sporting Fingal
Gary McCabe 01.08.1988 Dublin Irish 5'8" 68kg Left Midfield Left Forward Bray Wanderers ****
Brian McCarthy 29.07.1987 Cork Irish 6'5" 91kg Centre Back Bohemians
Jason McCartney 06.09.1986 Sligo Irish 5'9" 10st8lb Left Midfield Left Forward Longford Town
Stephen McCrossan 13.03.1985 Dublin Irish 176cm 11st2lb Centre Midfield Monaghan Utd
Shane McFaul 23.05.1986 Dublin Irish 6'2" 12st Centre Midfield Centre Back Sporting Fingal ****
Noel McGee 30.06.1987 Ballinasloe Irish 5'11" 12st Centre Forward Left Forward Athlone Town
Michael McGowan 22.02.1985 Glasgow N. Irish 5'8" 80kg Right Midfield Left Midfield Dundalk
Shaun McGowan 01.12.1984 Letterkenny Irish 5'11" 13st Centre Midfield Centre Back Finn Harps
Michael McGinlay 10.12.1987 Yeovil English 5'11" 12st Right Midfield Centre Forward Dundalk
John McGuinness 18.03.1986 Dublin Irish 5'10" Goalkeeper Longford Town
Stefan McKevitt 29.06.1987 Dundalk Irish 5'7" 11st Right Back Right Midfield Monaghan Utd
Kevin McKinlay 28.02.1986 Stirling Scottish 6'0" 82kg Left Midfield Left Back Dundalk ****
Conor McMahon 24.01.1987 Dublin Irish 6'0" 76kg Right Back Centre Back Monaghan Utd
Oisin McMenamin 10.05.1990 Letterkenny Irish 5'9" 11st Centre Forward Left Forward Finn Harps
Evan McMillan 20.11.1986 Dublin Irish 6'3" 83kg Centre Back UCD ****
Jordan McMillan 15.02.1990 Dublin Irish 6'0" 12st Centre Back Right Back Longford Town
Mark McNulty 13.10.1980 Cork Irish 6'1" 76kg Goalkeeper Cork City
Darren Mansaram 25.06.1984 Doncaster English 6'2" 13st Centre Forward Dundalk ****
Chris Mulhall 09.02.1988 Birmingham Irish 5'11" 12st Centre Forward Right Midfield UCD
John Mulroy 27.12.1989 Dublin Irish 5'10" 72kg Centre Forward Right Midfield Bray Wanderers ****
Tiarnan Mulvenna 10.12.1988 Belfast Irish Centre Forward Right Midfield Dundalk ****
Mark O'Brien 13.05.1984 Dublin Irish 5'10" 70kg Centre Midfield Right Midfield Shelbourne
Cathal O'Connor 24.06.1980 Dublin Irish 5'9" 11st10lb Right Midfield Centre Midfield Monaghan Utd
Chris O'Connor 07.05.1985 Brisbane Australian 184cm 83kg Goalkeeper Bray Wanderers ****
Stephen O'Donnell 15.01.1986 Galway Irish 176cm 76kg Centre Midfield Cork City ****
Greg O'Halloran 06.09.1980 Cork Irish 5'10" 12st Centre Midfield Centre Back Cork City
David O'Neill 17.08.1990 Dublin Irish 6'0" 11st4lb Centre Midfield Right Back Bray Wanderers
Tadhg Purcell 02.09.1985 Dublin Irish 6'0" 179lb Centre Forward Right Midfield Shamrock Rovers ****
Timmy Purcell 04.03.1988 Kilkenny Irish 72.5kg Centre Forward Right Midfield UCD
Stephen Quigley 13.01.1985 Dublin Irish 5'7" 11st7lb Right Back Left Back Shelbourne
Shane Robinson 17.12.1980 Waterford Irish 5'9" 79kg Centre Midfield Right Midfield Shamrock Rovers ****
Sean Roddy 2.101985 Derry Irish 6'2" 13st Right Back Centre Back Finn Harps
Gary Rogers 25.09.1981 Drogheda Irish 6'2" 87kg Goalkeeper St. Patricks Athletic
Gerard Rowe 03.08.1984 Dublin Irish 5'11" 70kg Centre Forward Right Forward Dundalk ****
Carmine Russo 15.05.1987 Napoli Irish 5'8" 11st7lb Centre Midfield Right Midfield Longford Town
Ian Ryan 09.06.1987 Dublin Irish 6'0" 13st Centre Back Right Back Drogheda Utd
Mark Salmon 31.10.1988 Dublin Irish 5'11" 72kg Centre Midfield Right Midfield Drogheda Utd ****
Brian Shelley 15.11.1981 Dublin Irish 6'1" 86kg Centre Back Right Back Bohemians ****
Guntars Silagailis 31.08.1984 Rezekne Latvian 184cm 80kg Centre Forward Right Forward Cork City ****
Enda Stevens 09.07.1990 Dublin Irish 6'0" 12st Left Back Left Midfield St. Patricks Athletic ****
Michael Synnott 20.01.1987 Dublin Irish 5'8" 78kg Right Back Left Back Dundalk ****
Don Tierney 29.10.1976 Dublin Irish 5'9" 12st10lb Centre Midfield Monaghan Utd
Danny Ventre 23.01.1986 Liverpool English 5'9" Centre Midfield Centre Back Sligo Rovers ****
Keith Ward 12.10.1990 Dublin Irish Right Midfield Right Forward UCD
Paul Whelan 29.06.1987 Monaghan Irish 6'2" 11st Right Back Centre Back Monaghan Utd

Gavin "shels"

elshambo wrote: »

yes they all agreed to go on it but some are apparently still looking to stay where they are

which was the point of my post

Oh right, ye you're right. Sure Dean Delany is on that lst for us but well he wants to stay and he will be signed up soon afaik.

Just looking through that list and seen Mark Salmon, last club he played with was Athlone not Drogs, PFAI have joined the fudge train now.

PDN

Some decent players on that list - but last time I saw John Lester playing he must have weighed a heck of a lot more than 88kg (unless he was wearing 15 jerseys).

Good to see that Alan Mathews is staying as manager of Drogs, but I'm gutted that James Chambers has gone to Shams (both on RTE website).

super_furry

How good is Chambers?

kippy

I know this is a transfer thread but again, where are Sporting getting the financing from?
What is their background?

super_furry

http://www.fingalcoco.ie/minutes/meeting_doc.aspx?id=31986 pretty much sums it all up.

stovelid

Not too sure about all the other clubs cutting back their wages. Or at least the cost of overall contract "packages" perhaps. Time will tell. Rovers adherence to a part-time set-up/wage structure has already seen one or two targets say no thank you. The idea that the current health of Rovers means automatic domination of the league is misguided.

Fingal will surely be among the top wage payers though. They have good sponsorship for the time period specified in their development plan but they would want to make significant progress if are to maintain their current spend on their own income when, (if?) the sponsorship is scaled back.

Also, as we know, the salary cap protocol has been changed for the 2009 licensing. "Coaching" and "Management" salaries are now counted (with player wages) against your income so it will be interesting to see if this affects any club that supposedly provides significant outlay on "community" and "coaching" work. My guess is that a combination of fudge and loophole-finding will put paid to this. Again.

On topic: can't remember a whole deal about Chambers from last season. If he can get another 7 goals from midfield this season, that would be great as we're really missing that. Personally, I'm glad that SOC and Johnson were not on the outgoing list for Rovers - I think they both have a lot of offer. Sorry to see Maguire and Robbo go but it was probably time.

Kenteach

super_furry wrote: »

How good is Chambers?

We, Drogheda United, would not have stayed up without him this season. Doesn't exactly mean he's awesome, but he was the best player on the park when playing centre mid, and best player on the park when playing right full. gets the ball down, spreads it about well, has a serious engine and a dead ball specialist. Potentially a discipline problem, but nothing that can't be sorted.

Xavi6

Karl Bermingham 06.10.2009 Dublin Irish 6" 12st5lb Centre Forward Left Forward Monaghan Utd

:eek: Youngest player in the league?!

Coulda sworn I played against him 5 or 6 years ago.....

D2D

Xavi6 wrote: »

:eek: Youngest player in the league?!

Coulda sworn I played against him 5 or 6 years ago.....

Nearly 2 months old and he is 6" !!

Töpher

super_furry wrote: »

How good is Chambers?

Very, very good. Once he's utilised in a central role, and the ball isn't belted over his head.

Gavin "shels"

Barry Murphy has signed for Bohs, accepted Bohs over Fingal even though Fingal were offering a decent bit more afaik. Fingal going to be stuck with the rat in goa next season?

stovelid

Töpher wrote: »

and the ball isn't belted over his head.

Nobody must have told him one of his centre-halves is Aidan Price so.

Gavin shels wrote: »

Barry Murphy has signed for Bohs, accepted Bohs over Fingal even though Fingal were offering a decent bit more afaik.

And they say the big wages are on the way out...

bohsman

stovelid wrote: »

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And they say the big wages are on the way out...

Just Fingal left offering big money now, and even at that cant see them going much above what everyone else is paying.

Gavin "shels"

Dolan, Rico and Mahon staying on are the names surrounding Pats. Decision due by the end of the week. Stephen Kenny had verbally signed as manager before the new Derry franchaise was annouced.

Gavin "shels"

bohsman wrote: »

Just Fingal left offering big money now, and even at that cant see them going much above what everyone else is paying.

Seems that way alright, every team won't be paying more than €1,000 a week average this season except Fingal.

thusspakeblixa

Apparently Glen Crowe could stay with Bohs, and I heard Stuey Byrne could go back to Shels.
Is there any truth in the Ndo to Sligo rumour I wonder?

Gavin "shels"

thusspakeblixa wrote: »

Apparently Glen Crowe could stay with Bohs, and I heard Stuey Byrne could go back to Shels.
Is there any truth in the Ndo to Sligo rumour I wonder?

Crowe has already been released and there' a very very slim chance he'll be signed up by Bohs. Can't see Stuey coming back to us when he's playing Premier football with Pats, unless they want rid of him.

Ndo off to Sligo or Fingal seems to be the rumours, another unlikely person to be with Bohs come next season.

civis_liberalis

Word on the street is that Salthill Devon have declined the invitation to join the First Division.

I don't have any reliable source on it yet.

thusspakeblixa

civis_liberalis wrote: »

Word on the street is that Salthill Devon have declined the invitation to join the First Division.

I don't have any reliable source on it yet.

What would happen then? Kildare are gone, so would Tralee/Castlebar be promoted?

theteal

Gavin shels wrote: »

Dolan, Rico and Mahon staying on are the names surrounding Pats. Decision due by the end of the week. Stephen Kenny had verbally signed as manager before the new Derry franchaise was annouced.

i thought Mahon had already gone, and the Herald does too. I thought we might have been in with a shout of snaring Kenny but it's a non-starter

Fabio is off to Valetta *

* according to the afore mentioned paper which i'm not sure should be taken as fact just yet

Gavin "shels"

theteal wrote: »

i thought Mahon had already gone, and the Herald does too. I thought we might have been in with a shout of snaring Kenny but it's a non-starter

Mahon was defo gone when Stephen Kenny agreed verbally to take the job, but when he signed for the new Derry franchaise, Pats kept Mahon in mind. And well now it's all but guarenteed Doolin will be Pats new manager.

Kenteach

Gavin shels wrote: »

Mahon was defo gone when Stephen Kenny agreed verbally to take the job, but when he signed for the new Derry franchaise, Pats kept Mahon in mind. And well now it's all but guarenteed Doolin will be Pats new manager.

I heard talk of Doolin and Dundalk, but Pats would be the obvious choice and would also explain why Byrne might be on his way to you guys and Fabio heading to Malta.

Gavin "shels"

thusspakeblixa wrote: »

What would happen then? Kildare are gone, so would Tralee/Castlebar be promoted?

Tralee please.:D

Kenteach wrote: »

I heard talk of Doolin and Dundalk, but Pats would be the obvious choice and would also explain why Byrne might be on his way to you guys

Makes sense, I'd say it's a toss up between Rico and Doolin for both jobs. Wouldn't mind Stuey back with us aslong as he isn't on crazy wages.

monkey9

Gavin shels wrote: »

Crowe has already been released and there' a very very slim chance he'll be signed up by Bohs. Can't see Stuey coming back to us when he's playing Premier football with Pats, unless they want rid of him.

Ndo off to Sligo or Fingal seems to be the rumours, another unlikely person to be with Bohs come next season.

I'd love to keep Stuey Byrne as a squad player, but he would be a great signing for Shels!! His commitment is never n doubt

Kenteach

monkey9 wrote: »

His commitment is never n doubt

Glad you got to see that side of him. We never did.

Gavin "shels"

monkey9 wrote: »

I'd love to keep Stuey Byrne as a squad player, but he would be a great signing for Shels!! His commitment is never n doubt

Afaik himself and Heary always said they would like to return to Shels, defo Heary anyway.

monkey9

Kenteach wrote: »

Glad you got to see that side of him. We never did.

Gavin shels wrote: »

Afaik himself and Heary always said they would like to return to Shels, defo Heary anyway.

I'm not sure what his feelings for Shels are or how he was before, all i'll say is, if he signed for Shels, he would be a major player in their promotion push next season

He gave his all for Pat's this season, which is more than can be said for a few of the other players. His legs may be going at this stage, but as i say, i'd love Pat's to sign him up this season.

If he did go to Shels, i'm positive he'd turn into a cult hero for the next season alone!!

bohsman

Gavin shels wrote: »

Crowe has already been released and there' a very very slim chance he'll be signed up by Bohs. Can't see Stuey coming back to us when he's playing Premier football with Pats, unless they want rid of him.

Ndo off to Sligo or Fingal seems to be the rumours, another unlikely person to be with Bohs come next season.

Its a very strange rumour about Crowe but it is out there. Also looking like Ndo will stay at this stage, especially now that it looks like Cretaro is gone to rovers.

monkey9

bohsman wrote: »

Its a very strange rumour about Crowe but it is out there. Also looking like Ndo will stay at this stage, especially now that it looks like Cretaro is gone to rovers.

He'll probably get mugged on the LUAS

dfx-

bohsman wrote: »

especially now that it looks like Cretaro is gone to rovers.

And supposedly Amond gone in the opposite direction

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monkey9 wrote: »

If he did go to Shels, i'm positive he'd turn into a cult hero for the next season alone!!

You know he was with Shels before yeah?

And is already somewhat of a cult here for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xpEXip5X1U

I still have that on my mp3 player, I love it.

Love Roddy right at the end "I think he was a bit angry"

stovelid

monkey9 wrote: »

He'll probably get mugged on the LUAS

Worrying alright. I really wish it didn't have to stop in Inchicore.

bohsman wrote: »

especially now that it looks like Cretaro is gone to rovers.

Looks like you spunked your budget on Baz eh?

Ndo staying isn't exactly a bad thing, in fairness.

If Cretaro has to go, Amond would be a decent makeweight in the circumstances.

bohsman

Definitely happier to see us signing the best keeper in the league ahead of Cretaro.

GLaDOS

bohsman wrote: »

Definitely happier to see us signing the best keeper in the league ahead of Cretaro.

Agreed, I'd be happy for us to keep as much as last seasons squad as possible, replacing Brian was paramount

gimmick

Des wrote: »

And is already somewhat of a cult here for this
I still have that on my mp3 player, I love it.

Just showed how small time he is.

stovelid

bohsman wrote: »

Definitely happier to see us signing the best keeper in the league ahead of Cretaro.

Can't argue with that.

Nice to see your lot have changed their tune about none of our players making your first team. :P

GLaDOS

stovelid wrote: »

Can't argue with that.

Nice to see your lot have changed their tune about none of our players making your first team. :P

He wouldn't have made it in last season

elshambo

stovelid wrote: »

If Cretaro has to go, Amond would be a decent makeweight in the circumstances.

This Amond lad any use, for some reason I cant seem to picture who he is:o

OOOH and thanks for Doyler:D

stovelid

I think he got about 10 goals the season before last but he's hardly got a look-in this season. Think he may have got about 4 goals, including one against Bohs. I rate him with Doyler, good young player with potential and needs games but he's not going to displace Twigg, Baker and Barrett. We have Cowan breaking through now as well.

Personally I would like to keep him as a squad player. Think he could, like Doyler, do very well with a run in the team. He's a good lad and his attitude is sound too. Accepted his lot last season and worked hard when he got a game.

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gimmick wrote: »

Just showed how small time he is.

small time me bollix, one of the best players to play in the LoI this decade.

stovelid

Not sure if this warrants a new thread so I'll stick it in here...


Numbers don't add up

By Daniel McDonnell

Friday December 04 2009

A wide-ranging appraisal of the League of Ireland has concluded that an over-reliance on benefactors needs to be tackled if the game here is ever to be sustainable, with new measures set to be implemented for 2010.

The Irish Independent has seen the findings of the survey carried out by the league's Review Group, which canvassed club officials, players, managers, referees, media and members of associations and interest groups around the country.

The 55-page document largely focuses on figures from 2008 to measure the behaviour of clubs and garner feedback under the headings of Governance, Competitions, Operations, Communications and Finance.

Conclusion

Central to the conclusion is the short-sighted behaviour of certain clubs, which has proved troublesome for the majority, with the perilous existence of the culprits an obstacle to long-term security -- particularly in the current economic climate, which has affected many of those who have been bankrolling leading sides.

Unsurprisingly, the review also concluded that clubs were spending far too much of their money on player wages. Last year, Premier Division total salary costs made up 79pc of a record total income figure of €27m.

Overall, corporate and private sponsorship (CPS) was responsible for 27pc of total income in 2008, with match-day income at 20pc. At the bigger clubs, the reliance on directors and benefactors is far larger.

"Corporate and private sponsorship is the single largest area of income for LOI clubs," states the review, the findings of which will go before the FAI board.

"This effectively means that club directors and owners are keeping the clubs afloat from a financial perspective.

"Total income is currently sufficient to cover total salary costs. It is insufficient to cover total expenditure, resulting in clubs suffering year-on-year losses. More worryingly, football-specific income is not sufficient to cover total salaries.

"The lack of comparative expenditure in areas such as youth development, infrastructure, advertising, marketing and promotions represents an imbalance in investment priorities which should be addressed by each club's leadership."

It is hoped that changes to legislation for 2010 will encourage league members to build a proper foundation. Amendments to the Salary Cost Protocol, which currently decrees that player wages should only comprise 65pc of turnover, are being trumpeted as a solution.

"It was common practice here (and, indeed, still is around Europe) for directors/benefactors/investors to put money into the clubs in the form of a 'soft' interest-free loan to cover losses," says the review.

Income

"This is no longer allowable under the rules of the Salary Cost Protocol as any CPS provided to the club during the year, must be included in the club's audited financial statements as income."

Management and coaching salaries will also be included in the 65pc next year, while it is proposed that clubs be required to invest 10pc of turnover in capital infrastructure on an annual basis.

The review process also proposes that the FAI assists clubs with the implementation of performance-related pay scales.

While there is general agreement that the SCP has improved transparency since the FAI took over the running of the league at the beginning of 2007, dissatisfaction remains with the manner in which clubs have escaped punishment for breaching rules and dragging the reputation of the game here into the gutter.

"The need for the FAI to take (and be seen to take) strong, swift and decisive action...was a common refrain at each stakeholder meeting," says the review.

Derry City were recently expelled from the league due to operating dual contracts, but the feeling among clubs is that other big names need to be punished for their misdemeanours.

Without naming specific teams, the review defends the FAI for allowing Cork City -- until now at least -- their repeated indiscretions, although there is a pointed reference to clubs who have fallen foul of the taxman in the recent past.

"There is no underestimating the damage that is done each time a club is a party to legal proceedings involving Revenue or any other creditor," it says.

"The impact of these unfortunate occurrences undermines the integrity of the competitions, weakens the credibility of the regulatory processes and perhaps, most damaging of all; provides further grounds on which to continue some of the 'disconnect' between participant clubs and the rest of the football family."

However, the review responds to calls for strong action by saying: "Problems arise in applying sanctions unilaterally because every case is unique and, ultimately, relegation because of non-compliance affairs affects the fans and players at the club, which parties are unlikely to have had little or no control over the financial decisions."

Appraisal

Instead, the review merely proposes a more rigorous appraisal, including a second, hard monitoring date (as opposed to just one real deadline) for the SCP in 2011, and that, with regard to due process, "a club may be required to lodge a month's wages with FAI as a bond to protect football creditors and to protect the credibility of the competition."

Extending sanctions to points deductions and relegation are recommended if a "pattern of transgressions can be shown to result from reckless financial behaviour on the part of directors."

Elsewhere, the devising of an Elite Referees Group to monitor match officials is put forward, while the feedback on communications concludes with a wishlist that may be slightly unrealistic; particularly with respect to the weekly 'Monday Night Soccer' highlights show produced by RTE.

In addition to seeking greater coverage of the First Division on the show, it is suggested that "producers of MNS should be advised that the more 'gimmicky' segments of the programme are a source of some resentment when profiles of clubs, managers and players might serve better the promotional needs of the game."

- Daniel McDonnell


http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/numbers-dont-add-up-1964132.html

dreamers75

Clarke signed for Fingal today



Judas

elshambo

stovelid wrote: »

A wide-ranging appraisal of the League of Ireland has concluded that an over-reliance on benefactors needs to be tackled if the game here is ever to be sustainable,

Most english clubs would be in the brown stuff if it wasnt for benefactors and/or the Sky shilling

Indo-Smindo

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I will harp in with clubs for the most part do nothing outside of matchday in this country
Id like to see my lot (Sligo Rovers) running/connected to boxing/bingo/booking gigs/anything that can either bring in money or connect to people not into the actual football

Apparently Skandies make most of their money outside match days

bUILDERtHEbOB

Foster gone.:(

Hope it goes better for him than it did with Kenna.