Do people generally want to go back home to Ireland?

603304529

So get takeaway beers - a carton of 24 heavy beers can be had for 30 bucks - 18 euros or so.

Get some steak, fresh salad and bread, buy a cheap barbie, get some mates over, and have a good time.

Appreciate the weather dude, I was washing ice off the car this morning in the dark. Its 16:30 now, and the "sun" has gone down over the M50.

Daithio

It's rotten here at the moment. I swear it was pretty much dark today in London at 3.40pm. Pissing rain and absolutely freezing. I've had the heating on full blast for 2 hours and still shivering!

I can understand people not falling in love with Aus or whatever, but I really can't understand when people say they absolutely hate it and really miss Irish culture. Whoever says that must really have been fcuk all elsewhere in the world, because in reality, Aus and Ireland are pretty damn similar in the grand scheme of things.

And to say that food and beer is more expensive in Aus is just plain wrong.

Zambia

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Sounds great. Your right i dont have many things positive to say about Aus cause i think its overrated,

Who rated it so high? I didnt your argument there is with who fed you the high rating

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

drinking in a pub is so expensive its unreal thus i dont go to pubs anymore,

Yes because in ireland and the rest of the western world beer is free :rolleyes:

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

the food is horrible except for the steaks,

I cook food and its not horrible? I love the food here as I cooked my food back in Ireland it sort of tastes the same.

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

i dunno + Aus is not for me.

Both true statements

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Id prefer raining Ireland any day

That is really all you need to say, you dont have to convince anyone here Australia is crap. Its not in essence its just not for you. Ireland's not crap either but its not for me.

I for one love Aus and I get a little defensive when people slag it off. The funny thing is I cant pinpiont why I love living here but then again I dont have to.

TheCandystripes

australis sound ok but its not better than france where i lived since i was a born. both my rents are irish but damn living in paris and then comparing with dublin it sucks:mad:

brendansmith

I think the food here is very good and healthy generally, alot healthier than back home. Maybe my eating habits have change though

strathspey

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

, the food is horrible except for the steaks,

You have got to be kidding! What is Irish cusine? Thank god for the influx of foreigners into Ireland in the last 10 years who brought with them a variety of cuisines thus enriching the dining out experience. The Irish palatte has got to be one of the blandest palattes on the planet. Irish stew, beef or salmon, you can stick it!

eringobragh

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Sounds great. Your right i dont have many things positive to say about Aus cause i think its overrated.

Again It's what you make of a place, alot get stuck in the Bondi trap and may as well stay in Ireland! I was going out to see the Blue Mountains one day and asked one of our Irish Flatmates to come, She replied "Is it just Mountains?" , I replied "What do you expect, a rollercoaster?"

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

drinking in a pub is so expensive its unreal thus i dont go to pubs anymore

WTF , As opposed to Ireland?? schooners can be got for as low as AU$2.50 and jugs for 7-8 bucks in places. Thats works out at about Eur1.50 for a schooner I doubt you'd get a coke in an Irish pub for that.

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

the food is horrible except for the steaks, i dunno Aus is not for me

Where are you eating???? Oportos :P

Again WTF.. there's an abundance of different restaurants... I mean Thai food in Australia tastes the same as Thai food in Ireland..likewise Italian ,etc..and the food I buy in the supermarket or butchers, my beef tastes like beef should, as does my chicken..so maybe you should change where you shop / eat out.

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Id prefer raining Ireland any day where at leasr i can afford to have a few drinks and have a good variety of food.

Again your delussional if you think Ireland is cheaper then Aus, I ALWAYS have money in my pocket here and am on abit less then what I was on in Ireland.

I don't miss the rain too much or the robbing government but I do miss the mates and family!



Remember....Carpe diem

Mr Benevolent

The food is fine here, but Australia is not cheap. It's cheaper than Ireland, but that doesn't mean much.

eringobragh

Confab wrote: »

The food is fine here, but Australia is not cheap. It's cheaper than Ireland, but that doesn't mean much.

I find the people that find it more expensive here is the people who lived at home in Ireland and now have to stick up $1000 + bonds and part with $100 - $200 per week for rent.

Granted it's no where as cheap as whats made out.

brendansmith

eringobragh wrote: »

Where are you eating???? Oportos :P

The chicken in oportos is fowl.

jank

mandrake04 wrote: »

Many people go home with the intention of returning and just get stuck in a rut.... it takes a strong mind to take the PR plunge from over there!!

+ 1 Million. I have heard about a dozen people go on about going back... I am still waiting for the first one to make a move!

jank

Heading back in April for a few weeks only though. Will fit a side trip or 2 on the way as well!

Just one thing that is very important though. People need to prioritize what they want to do. I have head a few people mention that they want to see OZ and not get stuck in a sponsorship or job. If you really hate your job than fine but it might be a means to an end.

What do you want to do. See OZ and then go home to the dole or grin and bear it by working for a year or 2 until things improve at home and then travel when your options are greater?

Don't get me wrong I love travel. I wish I could do it all the time. My intention was to get a RTW in NZ and do china/japan and south America once my visa ran out but the country (Ireland) is on the verge of being taken over by the ECB/IMF. This made me realise how vulnerable I am so applied for residency (Would do that anyway) and took the offer of a 457 visa for OZ..

The outback will be there in a year or 2. Just think seriously about leaving a job and heading home cause you want to travel at least until the $hit storm dies down a bit. Ireland as a state is on the verge of going under due to political and economic mismanagement.

Mr Benevolent

the country (Ireland) is on the verge of being taken over by the ECB/IMF

No it's not. If Irish people stopped believing what they read in the newspaper and hear on TV they'd be far happier and more clued in. And all you're doing is contributing to the lies we're fed.

Doc

jank wrote: »

Just one thing that is very important though. People need to prioritize what they want to do. I have head a few people mention that they want to see OZ and not get stuck in a sponsorship or job. If you really hate your job than fine but it might be a means to an end.

What do you want to do. See OZ and then go home to the dole or grin and bear it by working for a year or 2 until things improve at home and then travel when your options are greater?

Don't get me wrong I love travel. I wish I could do it all the time. My intention was to get a RTW in NZ and do china/japan and south America once my visa ran out but the country (Ireland) is on the verge of being taken over by the ECB/IMF. This made me realise how vulnerable I am so applied for residency (Would do that anyway) and took the offer of a 457 visa for OZ..

The outback will be there in a year or 2. Just think seriously about leaving a job and heading home cause you want to travel at least until the $hit storm dies down a bit. Ireland as a state is on the verge of going under due to political and economic mismanagement.

The situation I am in is that I have an ok job here but it is a step back from what I was doing in London.

Before the property market crashed I knew my job was unstable when I was in London so decided I would save for as long as they didn’t make me redundant and then when it eventually came go traveling (something I had always wanted to do) for as long as I could and hope that the market would recover substantially before I got back.

I did that and traveled around SE Asia for about 4 and a half months then came over here to Melbourne when my money was running low and searched for a job.

I managed to find my current job just before I completely ran out of money so said yes the second they offered it to me. It is not what I want to do every day but it pays well and I wasn’t really in a situation to be picky.

I have been paying a higher rate of tax then I should have been and so will be able to claim back a significant amount at the end of my year working here + my super and whatever I end up having saved if I leave.

My intention was to work the year here then take a flight to NZ spend about 3 weeks there and fly back here on a tourist visa and travel around Australia a bit then fly off to somewhere else in the world.

Now my company is talking about the possibility of sponsorship I am unsure of what I should do. The job is not bad and probably better then what I would find in Ireland at the moment but as I said it is a step back and I have put up with that because I needed a job and thought it was a just temporary stop so I could grin a bare it. If I accept the sponsorship I will be tied to this job and it will be a much more permanent thing.

As I said if they agree to give me some time off to go do some of the things I have looked forward to doing since I came here then I might be tempted to say yes. But I am finding it a very difficult choice at the moment.

Also the travel bug is a tough one to shake and I’m getting itchy feet…

jank

Confab wrote: »

No it's not. If Irish people stopped believing what they read in the newspaper and hear on TV they'd be far happier and more clued in. And all you're doing is contributing to the lies we're fed.

I am not trying to put us down or anything but the facts do not lie. You will see in another thread that I back you where the Irish need to be more positive and stop cribing about the little things that dont matter. That doesn't mean we can hide away from reality.

To some extent the ECB is already running the country. The gave us the loans for NAMA and told Brian Cowen that 4 billion must be cut from the public purse each year for the next 3/4 years (or else raised in taxes!) The budget is due next week which will raise war and that is the tip of the ice berg as the next 3 budgets will be as bad. Alternative, leave the euro and we are on our own. So, Yes Europe to some extent is running Ireland and that influence is only to grow.

We will get out of it but not if the Irish people just accept the status quo, give out to ourselves for being negative slap oursleves on the wrist and continue along the same path that led us to this crux in the first place. A change in mind set and culture needs to happen first THEN we can talk ourselves up.

Reality first, positive attitude then as a positive attitude now only brushes the mistakes of the past under the carpet thus we come about to the same situation. Didn't Lemmas say "Sure we cant find jobs for everyone.." We bucked that trend in the last 15 years but now what??

Have you ever asked yourself how Ireland continually manages to **** it up and by extension the only way to survive is to pretty much export our population. We are supposed to be in the EU and a shining example of what is good about Europe yet here we are 20+ billion in the red this year alone, 50 odd billion for NAMA, almost 500,000 unemployed and the political establishment paralyzed by fear over what to do never mind the other elites like the bankers and clergy going along their merry way as if everything is rosey. Projections are that we will reach GDP to Debt ration of 100% within 3 years unless drastic cuts happen. If that happens ALL bets are off!

To come out of this we need to reach the bottom and realize what we are up against. This aint the 80's. This is a global world where Paddy is competing with Mr Chan and Ms Syaid.

However, I am optimistic that there IS a sea change of attitude in Irish society where especially the younger generation of the future will NOT repeat the same mistakes. This is why I am optimistic for the long term future of Ireland and the Irish people because I hope to live there and die some day. Not in OZ or NZ.

jank

Now my company is talking about the possibility of sponsorship I am unsure of what I should do. The job is not bad and probably better then what I would find in Ireland at the moment but as I said it is a step back and I have put up with that because I needed a job and thought it was a just temporary stop so I could grin a bare it. If I accept the sponsorship I will be tied to this job and it will be a much more permanent thing.

Think long and hard about waving that job goodbye. I have no idea what you do but by the sounds of it you are in property or construction or something like that. If it is then Ireland or even the UK aint looking too good for that now.


But I completely understand about travelling and there is no harm in asking for time off first and then going back to work for them. Win Win

Skittlebrau

Xavi6 wrote: »

Lived in Ireland, Chicago and Perth.

All three have their plus points, but both Perth and Chi-town were very easy to settle into in terms of lifestyle. I prefer the warmer weather as well and that's probably the biggest reason I don't want to be at home right now.

Very similar story here. Lived in Dub 15, Chicago and now Melbourne.

Don't plan on going home anytime soon. I have a good, extremely stable job. Earn more than I would at home, with less overheads.

Much better quality of life here. Melbourne is a great city.

mandrake04

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Sounds great. Your right i dont have many things positive to say about Aus cause i think its overrated.

I bet if you were earning $90,000+ a year with a spanking new 4WD company car and had a 5m Speedboat sitting in your garage you wouldn't knock it.

Would it still be overrated?

m@cc@

brendansmith wrote: »

I dont. I way prefer Australia but have to go home an finish studies after which im applying for Australian residency.

What about you lot?

I'm not staying in Australia but south of England is the most likely destination.

seachto7

mandrake04 wrote: »

I bet if you were earning $90,000+ a year with a spanking new 4WD company car and had a 5m Speedboat sitting in your garage you wouldn't knock it.

Would it still be overrated?

well, if you think a new car, and a fancy boat = "my life is great", good on you. Many people couldn't care less what's parked in their driveway....

as frankie boyle would say "shiny shiny"

unreggd

mandrake04 wrote: »

I bet if you were earning $90,000+ a year with a spanking new 4WD company car and had a 5m Speedboat sitting in your garage you wouldn't knock it.

Would it still be overrated?

Would u knock a deal like that in Dublin?

ION08

Australia is a far superior country to Ireland but i'll still be returning home after my 1yr WHV is over in Jan/Feb.

Sometimes im envious of Australia and wish that Ireland could have what it has.. sunny weather, beaches, proper metropolitan cities, lifestyle, far better lookin women (must be in the genes ), nicer houses/apartments & better cars than what you would be able to afford back home living an "equivalent" life in Ireland.

I dunno, on paper Oz definitely has a lot goin for it especially when I think of Ireland and its current state of affair, its horrible weather, dull grey skies, the way the country is run, the high cost of everything (Rent, Socialising, Houses, Cars, Insurance, Petrol, etc.. all more expensive yet inferior to here) and then the scummy skangkers that would love to rob it all on you it makes me think am I crazy to go back.. but the truth it i'm too used to living in Ireland and I miss family and all my good mates so that the primary reason Im goin back.

mandrake04

seachto7 wrote: »

well, if you think a new car, and a fancy boat = "my life is great", good on you.

It hardly replaces having my family close at hand.... but sure makes up with the lifestyle..

seachto7 wrote: »

Many people couldn't care less what's parked in their driveway....

You're right they don't care ......as long as they are sitting in the Tea Gardens every week getting sh1t faced with a load of other Paddies complaining that no one has found them a job yet....

Sure anyone could do that in Ireland

seachto7 wrote: »

as frankie boyle would say "shiny shiny"

Never heard of him.


Moral of the story is .... That you can live the dream in Australia.

You will only get out what you put in.... simple

unreggd wrote: »

Would u knock a deal like that in Dublin?

Can you do this with your friends 8 months of the year in Dublin?

strathspey

Confab wrote: »

No it's not. If Irish people stopped believing what they read in the newspaper and hear on TV they'd be far happier and more clued in. And all you're doing is contributing to the lies we're fed.

You are dillusional, aren't you. Who do you think is signing the cheques for the Irish state at the moment? The EU, aka Germany. The country is broke, you'de better start believing it!

unreggd

mandrake04 wrote: »

Can you do this with your friends 8 months of the year in Dublin?

Of course you can


Anyways, my point is you're pitchin Oz with an unrealistic idea
People like you makin comments like that are the reason everyone coming over is suspecting nothing but big and wonderful things, handed to them on a plat

Traq

mandrake04 wrote: »

You're right they don't care ......as long as they are sitting in the Tea Gardens every week getting sh1t faced with a load of other Paddies complaining that no one has found them a job yet....

So the only people who don't care what they've got in their driveway are the lads sitting in the Tea Gardens drinking themselves silly? I have to say I find that attitude pretty strange, I've been here over two years now, working pretty much since I got off the plane way back in '07 and I for one couldn't give a sh*t about what I've got parked outside the house. It's not all about perceived status symbols for me.

On topic, for the first year or so of working over here I thought I'd be happy to stay out here and never go back but lately I find myself checking out recruitireland and irishjobs a lot more often, and think that if the right opportunity came up at home I'd happily go back. I'm still very much enjoying my time in Oz, I suppose I'm just beginning to question if it's a place I can really see myself settling a lot more now. Having been away for a good while now there's just that feeling that your friends and family's lives are passing you by a bit...

seachto7

mandrake04 wrote: »

You're right they don't care ......as long as they are sitting in the Tea Gardens every week getting sh1t faced with a load of other Paddies complaining that no one has found them a job yet....

Just because you make good money doesn't mean you have to blow it on a fancy car to show people you're a success... (nice boat though).
Funnily enough, a lot of Aussies don't care what car they drive.

Jumpy

seachto7 wrote: »

Funnily enough, a lot of Aussies don't care what car they drive.

Only a Holden man would say that. *spits*

JONJO THE MISER

brendansmith wrote: »

I think the food here is very good and healthy generally, alot healthier than back home. Maybe my eating habits have change though

Are you for real? Do u see what they call bread here which they sell in the supermarkets and bakeries, it sticks to the top of your mouth and tastes more like salt than bread. Very few times when ive eaten out do you get vegtables with your meal its mostly chips, the slices of ham for sandwiches is the most processed crap i have ever eaten and as for getting good spuds here forget about it, they dont exist. The only good food here is steak and lamb thats about it.

seachto7

disagree. food in Aus is great. The choices of asian food is beautiful, as well as loads of fresh sushi, fresh food etc. available for cheap too... I think people can eat healthier in Aus