Who do you think is the best Manager in the World?

Kenteach

Ancelloti

Has to be Fergie. No point debating what coulda, woulda, shoulda if it was a different club, resources, etc. Don't like the man, but can't argue with his record as a manager (in all his managerial positions).

The big question, though, in a poll about the best manager in the world, is Benitez mentioned because he happens to be the current manager of one of the premier leagues Top 4? Hilarious!

Sheepy99

Hiddink

NOTE TO OP: make a new poll without ferguson in it who will obviously get the votes of biased united supporters.

IvySlayer

Ancelloti

DazMarz wrote: »

Sir Alex Ferguson will probably go down in history as the greatest football manager ever. The list of trophies and competitions the man has won alone would make it so (Premier League, FA Cup, European Cup, World Club Cup, ad nauseum).

However, there is one problem I can see with all this: since 1986, when he started his tenure, Sir Alex Ferguson has had control over one of the richest, most powerful clubs in football. He has had almost infinite resources at his disposal, with which to buy and sell players almost at will. Their youth system, second to none, has also had this advantage of having the best of everything (equipment, scouts, facilities etc.) and has allowed Ferguson to not only have free reign over the transfer markets but also to tap into a rich vein of rising stars moving through the Academy.

Not to take anything from the man, but do Manchester United under-perform on the European stage? Again, the richest and most powerful football club in the world, and since Ferguson took over, they've won the European Cup twice. Since 1986. Twice in 23 years. To win the European Cup twice sounds impressive, but when you add the adendum ''in 23 years'' it loses some of its lustre. Yes, United have been one of the big teams in Europe, consistently reaching knock-out stages of the European Cup year in, year out. But merely being the richest and most powerful club in football, they surely should have won it more than twice in 23 years?

Would Sir Alex Ferguson be the best manager in history if he did not have the backing of millionaires, huge resources and stewardship of the biggest club in the world? Would he have become so lauded and so revered at a lesser club? Highly unlikely.

But then, all that said and done, 11 Premier League titles in 17 years of the Premier League (since the 1992-93 season) is a remarkable acheivement.

But I still wonder, without all of the riches and all of the power and glamour of a club like Manchester United, would Ferguson have been as revered? If someone else had taken the job in 1986, would they be now upon the same pedestal as he is, or would it have imploded?

Sir Alex Ferguson is a great manager, but, in all fairness, with such a club and such resources behind him, he should be.

Aberdeen. Won 3 Scottish titles, 5 cups and even had success in Europe.

IvySlayer

Ancelloti

Sheepy99 wrote: »

To anyone who votes for Fergie : NO.

Sheepy99 wrote: »

NOTE TO OP: make a new poll without ferguson in it who will obviously get the votes of biased united supporters.

Care to list why he's not the best manager of all? Who got your vote?

Headshot

Ancelloti

Sheepy99 wrote: »

NOTE TO OP: make a new poll without ferguson in it who will obviously get the votes of biased united supporters.

lol actually a few of liverpool and chelsea fans have voted for him and the odd utd fan voted for Wenger

btw Dave you should be ashamed of yourself

DSB

Ancelloti

Seriously, Dave!, jem, Royale with Cheese, spockety. CMON.

SlickRic

Ancelloti

DSB wrote: »

Seriously, Dave!, jem, Royale with Cheese, spockety. CMON.

tbf, Fergie will run a muck with this poll.

there's probably a bit of room for a few p*ss-takes

JPA

Hiddink

CHD

Ancelloti

havnt read the thread but IMO stupid question, its obv Fergie. Saw Guardiola in poll. lol lol lol lol lol. ffs hes a manager a few years. Watch Barca destroy and choke and replace as usual and he will dissapear.

Xavi6

Ferguson

Don Fabio for me. I'll be sticking a few quid on England to win the World Cup with him in charge. Fergie and Wenger round out my top 3 in no particular order.

efb

Ancelloti

It's Ferguson, pah!

scudzilla

Ancelloti

The best manager is without a doubt Fergie, The second best is his successor, The Special One, Jose ;)

smoochie06

Ancelloti

Pains me to say it but Ferguson would be the best manager in the world for me. Consistently winning major trophies.

SarahBM

Simon Grayson! 70% win record since he has taken over!!! In Grayson we trust!!! Marching on together!!!!

Instant Karma

Mark Hughes is the name your all looking for.... I'm kidding, Wenger is the man who got my vote.

Pisco Sour

Lads, it aint as impressive winning major trophies when you got sack loads of cash to help achieve this. The fact of the matter is Manchester United's success came at the right time. Their first title coincided with the beginning of the Sky Era, and all the rewards that came with it. In addition the European Cup became the Champions League and for a significant amount of time Manchester United were the only English team in this competition (and so the only english team receiving the ridiculous revenue from the competition). This helped them pull away and stay away from the rest, financially and therefore on the pitch aswell.

Not taking away from Alex Fergusen as a manager. What he did with Aberdeen is truely remarkeable, and his achievements with United in the early 90's (when it was more of a level playing field) is extremely impressive. Its not his fault he got more rewards for winning than Liverpool, Arsenal and Everton got for their successes in the 1980's. However I think we must not overhype his achievements with United since the late 90's onwards. Football is a different game now. Its dominated by those who have the most cash, and United are not short of it, making Fergie's job so much easier.

EDIT: In case anybody thinks I am a fan of a rival club, I'm not. I follow no english team, so I am not biased in any way.

orourkeda

Mike Bassett.

eZe^

Ferguson

CHD wrote: »

havnt read the thread but IMO stupid question, its obv Fergie. Saw Guardiola in poll. lol lol lol lol lol. ffs hes a manager a few years. Watch Barca destroy and choke and replace as usual and he will dissapear.

As opposed to Chelsea, a shining beacon of patience is it? How many managers have you had in the past 3 seasons? 5 is it? Worse than Real tbh. If Barca's achievements over it's history warrant the term 'chokers', then Chelsea are literally organisms that live on the Tim Henman's faeces.

CHD

Ancelloti

eZe^ wrote: »

As opposed to Chelsea, a shining beacon of patience is it? How many managers have you had in the past 3 seasons? 5 is it? Worse than Real tbh. If Barca's achievements over it's history warrant the term 'chokers', then Chelsea are literally organisms that live on the Tim Henman's faeces.

lol. When did i say anything about Chelsea? I'm not bothered anyway as i don't remeber posting that and my hangover hurts. Love how you get so childish about Barca though

eZe^

Ferguson

It's pretty true though, if you look at relative success. And I'll obviously irrationally defend my club, I thought that was pretty much a rule amongst football fans.

CHD

Ancelloti

eZe^ wrote: »

It's pretty true though, if you look at relative success. And I'll obviously irrationally defend my club, I thought that was pretty much a rule amongst football fans.

Nope, you lost that right when you became a mod, you actually have to be sensible now :pac:

I know Chelsea have been terrible with managers lately, i don't need you too tell me! There is no way Pep can be considered a great manager yet either.

eZe^

Ferguson

And I agree 100% with you, it'd be ludicrous to even mention him in the same breath as Capello or Ferguson, he hasn't managed for more than 2.5 years ffs. He does have potential, as he seems to be incredibly intelligent and works with pain staking detail. But he did inherit an world class team, so perspective is needed.

NukaCola

Xavi6 wrote: »

Don Fabio for me. I'll be sticking a few quid on England to win the World Cup with him in charge.

:pac:
Keep your money in your pocket or give it to charity, dont throw it away..

Ferguson for me unfortunately.
He is easily head and shoulders over almost all the managers in the poll.

iregk

To be honest this is a tough one. I'd probably go for Capello however Fergie does run him close. I know Fergie has the track record of consistently winning but then again everywhere Fabio has gone he has won too!

angel01

Didn't get to vote but definately Sir Alex Ferguson