The Off Topic Thread...

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

http://www.sugarstacks.com/ somewhat related


disgusted with the amount of sugar that's in a frappacino

Mellor

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

http://imgur.com/a/w9nHF

shamelessly stolen from reddit


what 200 calories of various foods look like

typical that after looking through them all I'm craving doritos and gummi bears

Needs more unprocessed meat imo

meijin

Free "Introductory Human Physiology" course at https://www.coursera.org/course/humanphysio starting soon. And some more worth checking if you haven't seen Coursera yet.

Paleo with a blender?

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Getting some oral surgery today, will probably be on a liquid diet for a couple of days minimum.

Anyone got any liquefied paleo-esque recipes? Would prefer not to deviate too much from a clean lifestyle if possible.

(ignoring all the sedatives and drugs of course!)

El_Dangeroso

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Paleo with a blender?

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Getting some oral surgery today, will probably be on a liquid diet for a couple of days minimum.

Anyone got any liquefied paleo-esque recipes? Would prefer not to deviate too much from a clean lifestyle if possible.

(ignoring all the sedatives and drugs of course!)

Do you have a pressure cooker? It can knock up soups and stews in under an hour. I made a beef bourguignon yesterday and the meat was melt in the mouth soft. With mashed potato with plenty of cream and butter no teeth would be required!

El_Dangeroso

Fab article from Chris Masterjohn on nutrient synergy:

http://www.westonaprice.org/fat-soluble-activators/nutritional-adjuncts-to-the-fat-soluble-vitamins

Orla K

There's going to be someone talking about the benefits of a raw food diet on todayfm. I don't have high hopes about it, Matt Cooper never has anyone good on when it comes to nutrition.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

is it best to take a magnesium supplement in the morning or before bed, or does it matter?

Zombienosh

considering magnesium and magnesium containing supplements, namely ZMA's are always marketed with a "it's amazing for sleep" buzz about them.

I'd say taking it late in the day would be better. Either after dinner or before bed food?

Magnesium is considered the "anti-stress" mineral and is a natural tranquilizer. In the elderly, magnesium supplements were found to improve sleep by decreasing the release of cortisol, a known cause of sleep disruption. Stress depletes magnesium and magnesium relieves stress. When your magnesium levels are low, your nervous system gets out of balance, and you feel on edge, naturally resulting in tightening muscles.

http://www.nutritionalmagnesium.org/articles/insomnia/309-how-magnesium-helps-you-sleep.html

Zombienosh

speaking of magnesium, today I finally picked up (after weeks of I must try some of that) Hemp seeds.
Added some into lentils for dinner, but mainly got it to throw into porridge.
Seems good. i might even make some home made protein bars and throw some in.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

i was all set to make those protein bars this week, then realised I was just about all out of whey protein

so I flipped some tables and put it back on the 'to do list'

El_Dangeroso

Zombienosh wrote: »

speaking of magnesium, today I finally picked up (after weeks of I must try some of that) Hemp seeds.
Added some into lentils for dinner, but mainly got it to throw into porridge.
Seems good. i might even make some home made protein bars and throw some in.

Bear in mind because hemp is so high in phytic acid, you won't be able to absorb most of the magnesium. And you can't sprout hemp because it's irradiated so it can't grow.. for obvious reasons

My goto magnesium supplement is epsom salt baths. Twice a week an hour long soak in a tub with 250g with a little bicarb of soda added keeps you topped up. You also have the best night's sleep of your life afterward.

It's also a great source of sulphur for people who can't eat cabbage and such due to IBS (like me..)

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

you moved on from the magnesium spray thing?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

well one day into my magnesium supplement adventure I'm going to end it. was having heart palpitations on and off all day yesterday and into the night as well. I was weirdly calm about the whole thing, no anxiety or panic at all just "oh.. my chest feels funny, ho-hum" so maybe I was slightly magnesium deficient and the supplement did help with general feelings of anxiety.. but I think from now I'll just try and get enough of it from my diet instead of in tablet form.. at least until I can get to a doctor and get myself checked out.

plenty of nuts, seeds and spinach in my future.

Zombienosh

I'm not using the hemp for magnesium only noticed it had quite a bit in it. It's got good fats and protein content.

Dolbert

I never knew that about the epsom salt baths, I must give that a try as I have at least two nights a week where I don't sleep properly!

El_Dangeroso

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

you moved on from the magnesium spray thing?

Oh I still have that, but find that it's much more effective for curing muscle injuries than it is for sleep. I fecked my knee up last year and the spray is the only thing that helped.

Epsom salts in my experience are way better at raising my Mg levels overall.

doctorwhogirl

Beef jerky, where have you been! Why have I never found you now in a random shop.

Don't think I've ever seen it for sale where I live!

El_Dangeroso

Was messing around on pubmed and found this cool little study:

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/37/1/1.short

It's on rats but shows that overfeeding on MCTs (abundant in coconut oil) caused less fat deposition per calorie than log chain fats.

Basically a "**** Yeah, Paleo y'all!!" paper.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3402009/

rubadub

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

And you can't sprout hemp because it's irradiated so it can't grow.. for obvious reasons

Cannabis seeds are illegal to sell in the US, but not most other countries, including here. So you could try sprouting them and see if they are viable or not.

Gummy Panda

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Basically a "**** Yeah, Paleo y'all!!" paper.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3402009/

YOU WILL NEVER TAKE MY OATS!!!

Zombienosh

Gummy Panda wrote: »

YOU WILL NEVER TAKE MY OATS!!!

I second this motion. There shall be no taking of the oats.

El_Dangeroso

Whole oats aren't acellular carbohydrates! Everybody wins!

Oat flour on the other hand..

If anyone is looking to taste what porridge should taste like I highly recommend next time you're in the UK pop into a Pret a manger at breakfast time. They do little pots of the most delicious porridge you will ever taste. Reminds me of how my parents cooked it, the kind you have to get up at 5am in the morning to check on and stir.

metamorphosis

Just made fritata muffins ... so nice!

Atarted a new job and moved to Cork last week so made some food in bulk tonight ...

eggs, i used tinned coconut milk, black pepper, little salt, mixed herbs, ham, onion, cheddar, avacado ... all mixed together and put in non stick muffin tray and put in for about 20ish min at 200. Lovely!

I have loadsa oats soaking in coconut milk with with flax, tasteless whey, brazil nuts and blueberries and dark choc in the fridge ...

Sephya

in the EPIC-Elderly cohort with 74,607 men and women, it was found that greater adherence to a plant-based diet in European elders was associated with lower all-cause mortality.

http://journals.cambridge.org/abstract_S1368980007382487

most Scandinavian countries experienced a decrease in coronary heart disease and all-cause mortality largely explained by a decline in total serum cholesterol as a result of a large decline in intake of saturated animal fat.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19641348
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19141562
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15195160
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21103050

El_Dangeroso

Sephya wrote: »

in the EPIC-Elderly cohort with 74,607 men and women, it was found that greater adherence to a plant-based diet in European elders was associated with lower all-cause mortality.

http://journals.cambridge.org/abstract_S1368980007382487

most Scandinavian countries experienced a decrease in coronary heart disease and all-cause mortality largely explained by a decline in total serum cholesterol as a result of a large decline in intake of saturated animal fat.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19641348
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19141562
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15195160
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21103050

You have to look at what they are comparing. They are creating almost a false dichotomy of 'plant-based' and 'animal-based'. But what they really mean is 'Health conscious people who eat lots of vegetables' vs 'Non-health concious people who don't eat lots of vegetables' How can you possibly extract a meaningful conclusion from that study with the 'healthy-user' bias so firmly entrenched in the cohort?

Interestingly about the EPIC cohort, is that the highest intake of K2 was associated with lowest cardiovascular risk. K2 is most abundant in animal foods.

As to your second point, you're saying because A occurred and B occurred and C occurred at the same time that A must cause B must cause C.

If that's the case then I'd like to propose to you that since 98% of women that get pregnant use shampoo, that shampoo usage causes pregnancy.

Orla K

I'm going to write a book:pac:
It's going to be awesome.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

made a smoothie for lunch today with coconut milk, whey powder, oatmeal, greek style yoghurt, frozen banana and frozen berries

i had to force myself to cook dinner in the evening, part of me wanted to leave it too late so I'd be forced to have another smoothie

i don't even want to know how many calories i drank today. under a thousand probably... probably.

doctorwhogirl

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

made a smoothie for lunch today with coconut milk, whey powder, oatmeal, greek style yoghurt, frozen banana and frozen berries

i had to force myself to cook dinner in the evening, part of me wanted to leave it too late so I'd be forced to have another smoothie

i don't even want to know how many calories i drank today. under a thousand probably... probably.

Well that sounds amazing. Nom! Or should I say Gulp!

I'm currently trying lemon and ginger tea. I hate tea or coffee but like the idea of a warming drink...it's not as bad as I thought it would be! Nice little kick off the ginger too!