Raheny Broadband

red_bairn

Simon Gruber Says wrote: »

Yes, there are seperate cabs for the two halves of the housing estate, one half has it installed and is connected. On my side they never put in the VSDL cabinet at all and we cannot connect to the other halves as it's too far away.

Just a planning notice pasted on the old one on our side but the work was not carried out.

There is a case in Enniscorthy where a resident has complained about a cabinet and they have to remove it. Perhaps a objection has stalled the installation of the cabinet or perhaps they're concentrating on other areas atm and will there soon. When was the other VDSL cabinet installed?

Simon Gruber Says

All of the VDSL cabs were installed in Raheny before Easter is what I read here.

Simon Gruber Says

This is the existing cabinet. It's exactly the same now as it was then (minus the graffiti and plus a planning notice). No work whatsoever has been done here. It's nowhere near anyone's house so I can't figure out who'd have a complaint about it.

https://maps.google.ie/maps?q=Maywood+Crescent,+Raheny&hl=en&ll=53.379058,-6.163376&spn=0.00108,0.00284&sll=53.3834,-8.21775&sspn=8.852103,23.269043&oq=maywood,+rahen&t=h&hnear=Maywood+Crescent,+Dublin+5,+County+Dublin&z=19&layer=c&cbll=53.378932,-6.163218&panoid=eRt57GrbPZ9oMByOkjGPcg&cbp=12,33.04,,0,27.2

Simon Gruber Says

So, still no sign of our VDSL cab. I tried looking up the planning permission but can't find anything on it. My current internet has actually managed to loose speed too, barely getting 2 MB/s at times and houses just across the estate can get the full whack from the FTTC Here's a pic of the planning notice.

Brian CivilEng

I noticed the same planning notice on the cab at the entrance to the Watermill Drive estate. I thought the uncommisioned cab at Watermill Road and Howth Road junction would be my local one, but this location is unfortunately much closer. Hopefully there'll be some action in Raheny soon, the house I can see out of my living room window can get fibre according to the online checker, but not mine.

Simon Gruber Says

Well it appears I got it sorted now. Called up the sales team for Eircom and they said I can be connected to the cab at the other end of the estate. However this cab is more than 500m away so what speed can I expect from that?

red_bairn

Simon Gruber Says wrote: »

Well it appears I got it sorted now. Called up the sales team for Eircom and they said I can be connected to the cab at the other end of the estate. However this cab is more than 500m away so what speed can I expect from that?

Here is a good indication that you may get in the 30s.

Simon Gruber Says

Cheers, I'll take that over 2 anyday

Brian CivilEng

KN back in Raheny today, finally starting work on Watermill Rd. I'll update the map when they install a cab.

Battlejuice

Has there been any update on this? Does anyone know if fibre broadband is available in the Bettyglen estate? Just called UPC and they said they are unable to connect to my home there. I guess Eircom is an alternative but not terribly enticing given previous experiences.

Simon Gruber Says

Battlejuice wrote: »

Has there been any update on this? Does anyone know if fibre broadband is available in the Bettyglen estate? Just called UPC and they said they are unable to connect to my home there. I guess Eircom is an alternative but not terribly enticing given previous experiences.

Short answer no. Also there are no plans to enable it and UPC have no plans to cable the area so we're boned basically. The only connection in Bettyglen is Eircom and companies reselling the same Eircom connection. Expect a max speed of 2-3 mb/s.

Battlejuice

Simon Gruber Says wrote: »

Short answer no. Also there are no plans to enable it and UPC have no plans to cable the area so we're boned basically. The only connection in Bettyglen is Eircom and companies reselling the same Eircom connection. Expect a max speed of 2-3 mb/s.

Thanks Simon, that's a real shame as would have thought that an area so close to the city would have had fibre rolled out to it. Will settle for a Vodafone 8MB broadband connection and hope that they upgrade the exchange in the meantime but, knowing Eircom, this is going to be a very long wait.

Simon Gruber Says

You really would think so when both Maywood and Foxfield have it but there you go.

Battlejuice

Went with Vodafone in the end but needed to be connected by an Eircom technician. Good guy in fairness to him and he claims that we need to get on to the council or local TD to get any movement on the box not being upgraded. This does sound like a likely story where Eircom shrugs their shoulders of responsibility but it might be the only approach for now. He says he is frequently asked about the situation by residents complaining about the lack of fibre in Bettyglen but don't think there's much he can do in fairness to him.

ChrisMcCauley

Battlejuice wrote: »

he claims that we need to get on to the council or local TD to get any movement on the box not being upgraded.

That's actually what I did, complained to Terence Flanagan and it got sorted a few months later. Running happily with 48Mb out of the 50Mb we're paying for - way better than previously when paying for 8Mb and getting 2.2Mb

Good luck with that,

Chris

Simon Gruber Says

That what I heard too, the council are stonewalling it "to have something to actually do" were the engineer's words. I guess we need to get onto Terance and see if he can do anything.

Battlejuice

Simon Gruber Says wrote: »

That what I heard too, the council are stonewalling it "to have something to actually do" were the engineer's words. I guess we need to get onto Terance and see if he can do anything.

That might be the best approach. Mailed Terence Flanagan (Terence.Flanagan@Oireachtas.ie) and in fairness to him he got back to me straight away. He will be chasing this up and will hopefully get something going but might be no harm to ping him a mail

N0mz

Anyone know when the Ashcroft estate will be hooked up? all i get from eircom is "soon", and when they signed us up for another contract All i got was "it should be there in a couple weeks". That was in mid-august

keith matthews

Hi Guys,

I'm moving into the Village Bettyglen on Tuesday and without thinking there would be any issues i called UPC and then they told me that i could not get it in that area. I also spoke with Eircom and not only can i not get efibre but the area is only on a 1mb line.

Is there any update on this exchange being upgraded since the last post ?. Otherwise i will need to cancel the lease before i move in as i need fast BB for work.

Suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

Keith

Simon Gruber Says

keith matthews wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I'm moving into the Village Bettyglen on Tuesday and without thinking there would be any issues i called UPC and then they told me that i could not get it in that area. I also spoke with Eircom and not only can i not get efibre but the area is only on a 1mb line.

Is there any update on this exchange being upgraded since the last post ?. Otherwise i will need to cancel the lease before i move in as i need fast BB for work.

Suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

Keith

The Village is a seperate estate to Maywood/Bettyglen but sounds like it's being held up there too by the council. From contacting UPC in the past I do know that The Watermill apartments have UPC broadband and that is right beside you, so perhaps if there were enough demand they may run a cable from there.

keith matthews

Yeah I've since heard that the council have struck some sort of deal with Magnet for The Village area so i doubt there will be good Broadband for a While.

Thanks for the reply

Battlejuice

Turns out the cabinet on the junction of Maywood Road and Maywood Grove (BC0093/12) was refused due to the area being a 'Park'. Decision made in December 2012 by the Roads and Traffic Department. Will have to settle for slow broadband for the next few years methinks.

jhconnolly

I spoke to eircom last week, after I gave them my phone number the women looked up some database and said it would be done this December.

It's a pity the online map isn't accurate.

James

Simon Gruber Says

jhconnolly wrote: »

I spoke to eircom last week, after I gave them my phone number the women looked up some database and said it would be done this December.

It's a pity the online map isn't accurate.

James

Seems unlikely to be done if that area is designated a "park". Complete and utter bs, especially given there are two existing boxes there

I have a feeling the area was never cabled for UPC or Cablelink/NTL at the time because of the now pretty much redundant MABTV Association service and they couldn't compete. It's the only logical reason I can think of at least.

jhconnolly

Got this response from Eircom broadband forum, it's a bit cryptic, basically nobody knows, that's what I got out of it.

http://community.eircom.net/t5/Broadband/efibre-in-Bettyglen-Maywood-Grove-in-Raheny-Dublin/td-p/49674

On the up side, I did see some eircom vans at the Maywood Grove cabinet this week.

jhconnolly

Last I heard now is June 14, don't really believe it. Nobody seems to know anything when you call them, they just fob you off. Got passed from Billy to Jack etc etc.

James

Simon Gruber Says

Taken from the minutes of a council meeting last month

Q.94 Question in the name of Councillor Naoise O’Muirí
“Can the Manager please re-consider why the following License was rejected for an eircom cabinet installation:
BC0093/12 Maywood Road at the side of No: 2 Maywood Grove (proposed co-location with an existing cabinet and proposed cabinet BC0103/12)
Licence refused as 3 over ground cabinets at this open space which is considered to be an excessive intrusion on the amenity of this open space.’
Parks & landscapes Services Division 22/11/2012 This is causing a headache for some local residents as it is holding up e-fibre rollout to Maywood/Bettyglen; is there a process by which this decision can be appealed?

Reply:
A decision was made by Dublin City Council to refuse the Cabinet licence application BC0103/12 under Section 254 of The Planning & Development Act 2000 in 2012. Eircom has the option to appeal the above decision to An Bord Pleanála. In this instance Eircom has indicated to Roads & Traffic that they are looking for a new location for the refused cabinet BC0093/12.
Furthermore, Eircom intend to install the granted cabinet BC0103/12 as soon as they get the high level go ahead from The ESB re power supply to new cabinets. Approval is expected this week.
Parks and Landscape Services recommended refusal of 1 cabinet at this location due to the visual intrusion and sense of loss of security arising from the presence of a number of cabinets in close proximity to each other. It is understood that in such cases the applicant assesses the outcome of the application and assesses possible alternative locations for such facilities before an alternative application is made. It is understood that the applicant is researching the issue with a view to an application at an alternative location.
Dave Dinnigan Area Manager
Contact: Deri Flood, Senior Executive Engineer, IMU, Roads Maintenance Tel: 222 2558
Eoin Ward, Senior Executive Parks Superintendent - 2223436/2228869

Battlejuice

Simon Gruber Says wrote: »

Eircom intend to install the granted cabinet BC0103/12 as soon as they get the high level go ahead from The ESB re power supply to new cabinets. Approval is expected this week.

That looks like great news! Hopefully it will materialise.

Simon Gruber Says

Battlejuice wrote: »

That looks like great news! Hopefully it will materialise.

That was dated 17th of February but no sign of it yet. Also who knows when they'll have the application for the second cab approved.

N0mz

thanks for that info! I'm in Ashcroft and I talked to the customer support manager, supposedly, and he said that our estate doesn't have a cabinet because of there being no planning permission, for whatever reason. I asked if they were doing anything to install one, but he didn't have an answer, which probably means its months away... so that's pushed me over the edge to go UPC. It's just not worth the hassle.

Simon Gruber Says

N0mz wrote: »

thanks for that info! I'm in Ashcroft and I talked to the customer support manager, supposedly, and he said that our estate doesn't have a cabinet because of there being no planning permission, for whatever reason. I asked if they were doing anything to install one, but he didn't have an answer, which probably means its months away... so that's pushed me over the edge to go UPC. It's just not worth the hassle.

If you can get UPC, go for it. I would have long ago only for we can't get it in Maywood/Bettyglen

Blackjack

hi All
looking at the Avondale park area for renting.

What are the current broadband options in that area?

Simon Gruber Says

New planning notice on the cabinet today. Hopefully this time we'll get sorted.

Simon Gruber Says

Issue has been raised with the Minister for Communications now.

http://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2014-03-26a.600

Battlejuice

Went looking for that planning permission notice and it appears to be on a lamp-post now. Hopefully the job will progress this time as it has been a very painful process (especially reading through the fluffy correspondence between politicians... how is the Northside a 'state of mind'??). Thanks for the posts on this Simon

ChrisMcCauley

Blackjack wrote: »

hi All
looking at the Avondale park area for renting.

What are the current broadband options in that area?

Eircom only but the 50Mb & 70Mb packages are available.

Chris

a4j_ie

Just moved in last week to The Court off Watermill Road. Seems like Eircom is all we can get here. Spoke to a neighbour and he says all he gets is 2 megs!!! Eircom technician was out today and installed the cabling to the house but no modem to test everything yet.

Really can't believe the poor connection speeds when a few 100 metres down the road they have fibre!!!

ChrisMcCauley

a4j_ie wrote: »

Really can't believe the poor connection speeds when a few 100 metres down the road they have fibre!!!

Unfortunately that is exactly the case. One side of the road where I am has had cable for years while we made do with 2Mbs Eircom. Now Avondale Park has 50Mb but Watermill has not been upgraded. Crazy.

Fingers crossed you will be OK - can you get cable?

Chris

a4j_ie

I WISH Chris!!! Moved from Woodbine Rd where I had UPC 150meg and when I tried to transfer they didn't have it available to I got stuck with a €150 cancellation fee as well!! Disaster...

Simon Gruber Says

So, two months on from the last planning notice going up and still nothing done and no news.

jhconnolly

Emailed Terence Flanagan again today. See if he has any update.

terence.flanagan
@oireachtas
dot
ie

Simon Gruber Says

jhconnolly wrote: »

Emailed Terence Flanagan again today. See if he has any update.

terence.flanagan
@oireachtas
dot
ie

Hear anything back?

jhconnolly

Got a letter back from him, it says.

"I have made further representations regarding the matter which you raised with me to Ms Mary Carney of Eircom. Will be in contact as soon as I get a response".

Simon Gruber Says

jhconnolly wrote: »

Got a letter back from him, it says.

"I have made further representations regarding the matter which you raised with me to Ms Mary Carney of Eircom. Will be in contact as soon as I get a response".

Fair enough. Hopefully it'll be done sometime in June.

Eannaob

I too recently moved into Bettyglen estate and was disappointed at the lack of UPC. I have started a conversation with UPC to see what we need to do to get their service into the neighbourhood. I have also spoken to the MAB TVA and I believe we have a plan to get UPC into the 1000 houses of the Maywood, Avondale, Bettyglen triangle. There are a few of us who are working on this from the Bettyglen side of Maywood as we have been waiting too long for the planning and Eircom issues to be resolved. We want to have a choice of supplier for broadband, television and telephone. Working off 1.2MB is not acceptable, neither, we believe, is the potential 24MB of eFibre when compared to the potential of 200MB on UPC.
We do need some support from people living in the area to bring this plan to fruition. As this is my first post I cannot include email addresses or links. But please type this address into you email and contact me so that we can gather a group to move our plan forward. Please email me at

getUPCtoMAB
at
icloud
dot
com

Looking forward to hearing from you
Éanna

Ernest

Eannaob wrote: »

I too recently moved into Bettyglen estate and was disappointed at the lack of UPC. I have started a conversation with UPC to see what we need to do to get their service into the neighbourhood. I have also spoken to the MAB TVA and I believe we have a plan to get UPC into the 1000 houses of the Maywood, Avondale, Bettyglen triangle. There are a few of us who are working on this from the Bettyglen side of Maywood as we have been waiting too long for the planning and Eircom issues to be resolved. We want to have a choice of supplier for broadband, television and telephone. Working off 1.2MB is not acceptable, neither, we believe, is the potential 24MB of eFibre when compared to the potential of 200MB on UPC.
We do need some support from people living in the area to bring this plan to fruition. As this is my first post I cannot include email addresses or links. But please type this address into you email and contact me so that we can gather a group to move our plan forward. Please email me at

getUPCtoMAB
at
icloud
dot
com

Looking forward to hearing from you
Éanna

I wouldn't be so keen to go rushing off to UPC if I were you. I know sombody who has the UPC package and its costing him €720 a year for tv and broadband. That sounds very expensive to me. Far better to push for Eircom to get planning permission for its fibre broadband because all the other operators such as Vodafone and Sky base their broadband on the Eircom fibre lines. Then there would be competition and peole would have choice and could move around to different suppliers.
Also 200mbps on paper sounds great but you will find 24mbps would be excellent - ten times the speed of the current non-fibre cables. T

Eannaob

thanks for the input Ernest.
I've been renting on the Howth road (UPC side) for the last 3 years and have enjoyed UPC's bundle offerings without issue. Yes the total costs for me are around €700 per year for all the Digital TV channels, Telephone service including free landline calls in Ireland all the time with limited free evening mobile calls. I have also had they pleasure of the 100MB Broadband for the last 2 years (I started at 50MB). I could switch to Eircom's eFibre on the Howth Road but would cost the same for similar solution (with less channels, less broadband, plus the Eircom TV service lowers the BB speed by 15Mbs (to provide quality TV service)). 24Mbs less 15Mbs leaves an opportunity of 9Mbs when the kids are watching tele and i'm trying to work upstairs. Adding UPC to the Maywood, Avondale, Bettyglen area would provide an alternative to the copper Eircom wires, (some of which are 40 years old, yes the eFibre to the cabinet would be new cabling but the last wire to your house is critical on the speeds and services obtainable).
Adding UPC to the neighbourhood would provide choice. It would not take away any of the other services available. (MAB TVA is looking at winding down by 2016. Users can switch to Saorview (a great quality service and free), they can also switch to Sky TV. but for broadband its only through the eircom wires that the service can be had. Cellular (O2, Vodafone etc), is patchy at best around Raheny and there are significant download restrictions on those services Three.ie bundle for 4G is €45/month with a 60GB download limit. I'm currently running at 200-300GB downloads/month in Howth Road due to iTunes music and movies. Netflix, TV on demand, let alone iTunes U for educational content.

Battlejuice

Fair play Éanna, I would be more than happy to back you with the plan to introduce UPC to the area. Have just sent you a mail.
Regarding the fibre cabinet planning, had one of the FG councilors canvassing my house yesterday and he said that the planning was refused yet again for the cabinet. Was surprised he knew of this and he had apparently known this a good 3 weeks ago. Not sure if it's true or not but nobody seems to know anything and relying on the council or Eircom to do anything will take a lot of time, as we have already noticed, and the usual ambiguity. The councilor recommended I get in touch with Eircom to approach the council to speed things up but we've been here before so it's the same old messing by the looks of it.

jhconnolly

Got a response from Eircom via Terence Flanagan TD. I won't go through the full response just the important points.

The cabinet in question is CLK1_026. The DCC parks development would not grant permission for this cabinet. Eircom then identified a different location close to a nearby path. On 21st May the DCC granted permission for this site. They can now proceed with construction of the cabinet. The current estimate for completion when customers can place orders is the end of August or early September.

Based on that we should see some activity in the area quite soon. Keep an eye out !

Simon Gruber Says

Today at last they have started work on putting in the cabinet in Maywood/Bettyglen. Hooray!