Why do men do it?

midlandsmissus

Dudess wrote: »

It's one thing to indulge in lengthy stares, quite another though to take a peek - or more than one peak, and then look away. That's not sleazy, it's natural. It's not the preserve of dumb guys either - most hetero guys, no matter who they are, are susceptible to the spell.

I hate that crap of "Oh I'm not appreciated as a woman because of my boobs" - put them away then.

The OP said he is repeatedly staring.

I hate that crap of 'oh the woman is asking for it, she was wearing tight clothes'.

The OP has said she is uncomfortable to the level where she makes sure she wears baggy clothes to work, to give him no excuse, and he is still doing it.

RMD

It's a penis thing, you simply wouldn't understand.

Oh, and if he's constantly staring at your tits, be proud, means you have a nice pair.

No offense meant if offense is taken.

Dudess

Well to be fair, I was referring more to the phenomenon in general rather than just the OP's situation.

And while I totally object to the "she was dressed provocatively, therefore asking for it" mindset when it comes to sexual assault, I do think if a woman has her boobs on display she can't exactly complain about them being looked at a lot. There's nothing wrong with her wearing cleavage-revealing clothes, but there is something wrong with her whingeing when she gets attention for it.

TanG411

Hard to say, but I'd say it goes back to our primal instincts.

It's the same way we look at the derrier or the hips

Teutorix

men like boobs, therefore men like to look at boobs.
he is a man, you have boobs, therefore he likes to look at your boobs.

simple logic.

southsiderosie

Teutorix wrote: »

men like boobs, therefore men like to look at boobs.
he is a man, you have boobs, therefore he likes to look at your boobs.

simple logic.

Women don't like perverts, therefore they like to not be ogled in public.

I am a woman, you are ogling me, therefore you will get cussed out.

Simple logic.

:mad:

Dudess

I couldn't give a flying fook if I caught any guy over the age of 12 - actually, scratch that 12... 9 - having a quick peep at my rack. It's normal.

Teutorix

southsiderosie wrote: »

Women don't like perverts, therefore they like to not be ogled in public.

I am a woman, you are ogling me, therefore you will get cussed out.

Simple logic.

:mad:

I was just explaining why men do it. I wasn't trying to offend anyone

stovelid

If the OP catches the guy staring all the time, then she must always be looking at him too.

Perhaps he's posting over on Thumped right now about it.

Warfi

stovelid wrote: »

If the OP catches the guy staring all the time, then she must always be looking at him too.

Perhaps he's posting over on Thumped right now about it.

Here's what he posted:

'Guys, this chick at work keeps looking into my eyes. It's making me very uncomfortable. What should I do?'

Some replies:

'Wear sunglasses'.

'Close your eyes'

'Look at her breasts so you don't feel so uncomfortable'

So at least now we know he's just following advice!! :pac:

southsiderosie

Teutorix wrote: »

I was just explaining why men do it. I wasn't trying to offend anyone

I think it's natural to check out a person you think is attractive. But looking and STARING are two different things.

I like butts. I will quietly check out a guy with a nice butt and some swagger walking down the street. But the fact that I am a butt-liking female doesn't make me feel entitled to 1) stare, 2) whistle, or 3) yell out something like "ooh, I'd tap that" -- all for the sake of some biological imperative. And I certainly would not stare at a co-worker's butt every day, per the situation described by the OP. Yet a surprising number of men think it is appropriate or acceptable to do all of the above - simply because they are male and (theoretically) fascinated by boobs.

Fulton Crown

southsiderosie wrote: »

I think it's natural to check out a person you think is attractive. But looking and STARING are two different things.

I like butts. I will quietly check out a guy with a nice butt and some swagger walking down the street. But the fact that I am a butt-liking female doesn't make me feel entitled to 1) stare, 2) whistle, or 3) yell out something like "ooh, I'd tap that" -- all for the sake of some biological imperative. And I certainly would not stare at a co-worker's butt every day, per the situation described by the OP. Yet a surprising number of men think it is appropriate or acceptable to do all of the above - simply because they are male and (theoretically) fascinated by boobs.

Mmmmm yeah ...we do

Teutorix

southsiderosie wrote: »

I think it's natural to check out a person you think is attractive. But looking and STARING are two different things.

I like butts. I will quietly check out a guy with a nice butt and some swagger walking down the street. But the fact that I am a butt-liking female doesn't make me feel entitled to 1) stare, 2) whistle, or 3) yell out something like "ooh, I'd tap that" -- all for the sake of some biological imperative. And I certainly would not stare at a co-worker's butt every day, per the situation described by the OP. Yet a surprising number of men think it is appropriate or acceptable to do all of the above - simply because they are male and (theoretically) fascinated by boobs.

I am a guy and i would never whistle or comment on a woman's "assets", in fact I get annoyed when my friends do it. And there are women that are like that also, so dont get all sexist up in this thread.

stovelid

southsiderosie wrote: »

I like butts. I will quietly check out a guy with a nice butt and some swagger walking down the street.

This is the way forward. Continue to ogle, but don't get caught and wait for more opportune, subtle moments. This means you can ogle and command the moral high-ground.

Note: most guys don't give a shit if women look at their arses.

southsiderosie

Teutorix wrote: »

I am a guy and i would never whistle or comment on a woman's "assets", in fact I get annoyed when my friends do it. And there are women that are like that also, so dont get all sexist up in this thread.

Sexist? Let's be real. Ask yourself how many teenage boys had adult women staring at their crotches and making lewd comments about them as they walked down the street? Now ask yourself (or better yet, some female friends - or your sister) how many teenage girls do you think this happened to? Personally, I do not know ANY girls who were not hooted at on the street as teenagers.

Do women hoot at men in public? Sure. But it is not anywhere near the rate that men hoot at women. The only exception may be when you get a pack of (often middle-aged) women on a drunken beach holiday.

And as for comments, you certainly don't hear women saying stupid things like "girl, I had to stare at that ass, my ovaries were twitching". Yet this thread is full of comments about men's primal urges, etc. Ridiculous stuff.

If you are a civilized human being, you can enjoy the view without making other people uncomfortable or being obnoxious. And you certainly know better than to stare at co-workers.

Or, based on the thread, maybe not.

brummytom

Dudess wrote: »

I couldn't give a flying fook if I caught any guy over the age of 12 - actually, scratch that 12... 9 - having a quick peep at my rack. It's normal.

Just about made it... phew



Wow... already 6 pages on boobs in just a few hours. Well done everyone, well done

shift

Orlaithc9 wrote: »

It goes to the point where I know hes doing it and I look up and catch him and he knows I catch him

you make it personal by catching him looking:eek:

now he doesn't just look to indulge - he looks to see how long he can look without getting caught!

Ferris_Bueller

How about writing on them "Caught by the bo**cks <insert name here>".

OutlawPete

Just back in from another crap movie

Dudess wrote: »

I couldn't give a flying fook if I caught any guy over the age of 12 - actually, scratch that 12... 9 - having a quick peep at my rack. It's normal.

I think the women that have posted apart from your good self know fine well it is normal and that is why they are going from looking at boobs to honking it in the street and lewd comments.

Let's stick to the topic.

The OP is comlaining about being looked at and I have to be honest here and respectful at the same time which will be hard but ..

From the tone of the OP I dodn't think she minds at all. In fact I think she is flattered and enjoying the attention.

Men look at boobs the same way women look at tall men with broad shoulders. It's instinct.

If men keep looking it is then appreciation of said boobs. Life is short, take some pleasure in it - as I said before, one day you'll wish for those looks and wonder why they no longer happen.

southsiderosie

OutlawPete wrote: »

Men look at boobs the same way women look at tall men with broad shoulders. It's instinct.

If men keep looking it is then appreciation of said boobs. Life is short, take some pleasure in it - as I said before, one day you'll wish for those looks and wonder why they no longer happen.

Is it appreciation if it isn't appreciated?

Why do so many men think being ogled is a compliment? It's one thing if you are on your way to a party dressed to the nines, and you receive an "appreciative glance". It's another thing if you are at work, and your office mate "appreciates" you every time you walk to the copy machine. And being stared at to the point where you are not comfortable in your workplace or exercising in public - as previous posters have attested to - is ridiculous.

The justification that "men just can't control themselves - it's instinct" is the same justification used in some cultures to put women in burkas. It's silly, and is an insult to both men and women.

Warfi

OutlawPete wrote: »

Let's stick to the topic.

The OP is comlaining about being looked at and I have to be honest here and respectful at the same time which will be hard but ..

From the tone of the OP I dodn't think she minds at all. In fact I think she is flattered and enjoying the attention.

Men look at boobs the same way women look at tall men with broad shoulders. It's instinct.

If men keep looking it is then appreciation of said boobs. Life is short, take some pleasure in it - as I said before, one day you'll wish for those looks and wonder why they no longer happen.

What's wrong with a woman saying she feels uncomfortable with unwanted attention, especially in the workplace? Why must it be assumed that she enjoys the unwanted attention, even after she has said she doesn't like the attention and it makes her feel uncomfortable?

What would you say to a woman if she said she felt uncomfortable in your company? Would you tell her that she's secretly flattered and not to worry? If I felt uncomfortable in a man's company, I told him and he replied that I should be flattered, to be honest I would be worried about my safety.

Any key?

I am lovin that theres a whole thread about boob ogling:DLovely stuff.


I think
Tall men are to me what boobs are to men....... I can't stop staring and then I realise I'm actually drooling.mmmmmmm tall men.:)

Men like boobs OP no matter how hard they try poor pets.Boobs are amazing who can blame them.

OutlawPete

Any key? wrote: »

I can't stop staring and then I realise I'm actually drooling.mmmmmmm tall men.

Men are not there for you to objectify.

How dare you stare at us.. you creepy pervert. I actually stoop when I walk cause of women like you looking at my tallness.

I used to go jogging and pervert women would see me and I would feel freaked out so I had to stop. Sometimes I even stay seated and at times have even crawled home so that women would not oggle my manly frame.

Bruce2008

I reckon she should just flash her boobs to him in a public place in front of people he knows, shouting

'Here they are, okay! This is what you've been staring at for the past year. Now get over it.'

Might work...:rolleyes: ....just a thought...:rolleyes:...

OutlawPete

southsiderosie wrote: »

Is it appreciation if it isn't appreciated?

Yes. As If I appreciate your tits by looking at them then it makes not a blind bit of difference if you reciprocate the appreciation or not. Either way your breasts are now in my cerebral possession for masturbation purposes.

southsiderosie wrote: »

Why do so many men think being ogled is a compliment?

Because it us doing the ogling and so we are aware of the intention. Plus when we are ogled WE take it as a compliment.

southsiderosie wrote: »

It's one thing if you are on your way to a party dressed to the nines.

Ahh, but you see this is something 'most' women don't understand and will never listen to. Most men do not prefer women 'dressed to the nines' - we like women naturally beautiful and the less make-up the better.

Men are just as likely to find you irresistible when you are in tight jeans and t-shirt than if you have your best get-up on and all madeup for a night on the tiles. Men like you ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrRPA25UBGg

southsiderosie wrote: »

being stared at to the point where you are not comfortable in your workplace or exercising in public - as previous posters have attested to - is ridiculous.

It'll pass ..

southsiderosie wrote: »

The justification .. it's instinct" is the same justification used in some cultures to put women in burkas.

Are you sure? I think they are opossed to exposed nipples, whereas - I'm for em, if anything

southsiderosie

OutlawPete wrote: »

Because it us doing the ogling and so we are aware of the intention. Plus when we are ogled WE take it as a compliment.

AH-HA! Herein lies the problem.

I will now refer to that great sage of gender dynamics, Chris Rock, who noted that while men are incapable of turning down sex ("a man is only as faithful as his options"), women are used to it, since in his words "Every man you've known since you were 13 was trying to **** you!"

Women get stared at and hit on ALL THE TIME. It gets tiresome. It's even worse when it happens in inappropriate situations, like at work. And a lot of women are nervous about "rocking the boat" or seeming bitchy, so they don't speak up about it, they just complain to their friends (or in online forums). Lucky for me, I am secure in my bitchiness, so I have no problems telling people to **** off.

Finally, I will make one more pop culture reference to prove my point. The brilliant tv show Mad Men is is large part a case study of gender dynamics in early 1960s Manhattan: the men in the ad agency in which the show is set felt perfectly free to ogle their secretaries, make lewd and sexist remarks, etc. Do we really think that a man's internal reaction to a magnificent creature like Joan Holloway has changed in the last 50 years? No. But the social norms of what is appropriate office behavior have. So keep your eyes to yourself, buddy, at least until happy hour.

OutlawPete

southsiderosie wrote: »

I will now refer to that great sage of gender dynamics, Chris Rock

Oh yes, Prof Rock who says Black People can never have wealth. They can be RICH, but only WHITE people can be wealthy.

Carry on ..

southsiderosie wrote: »

, who noted that while men are incapable of turning down sex ("a man is only as faithful as his options"), women are used to it, since in his words "Every man you've known since you were 13 was trying to **** you!"

Yes, yes .. I agree with all his observations here, so what is your point??

southsiderosie wrote: »

Women get stared at and hit on ALL THE TIME. It gets tiresome.

.. I'm feel so sorry for you. It must sooo hard for you. Life is so cruel sometimes it makes me weep.

southsiderosie wrote: »

a lot of women are nervous about "rocking the boat" or seeming bitchy, so they don't speak up about it, they just complain to their friends (or in online forums).

Yeah, SOME women compalin in online forums. I've read 'em .. a bunch of narcissistic stuck up precious little daddy's girls who need a good kick up the arse - the whole lot of them.

southsiderosie wrote: »

Lucky for me, I am secure in my bitchiness, so I have no problems telling people to **** off.

I'm sure you don't. You have no problem telling people to 'f**k off', as you so eloquently put it, becuase in this age you get away with it.

Would you tell a guy to '**** off' if you were alone in a strange place with not many around?? No, you wouldn't.

You would tell a guy to '****-off' cause you know society will bend over backwards to protect you. A bouncer will step in or another guy who wants to impress you prehaps but not because you deserve protection - please don't kid yourself on that score.

sparky360

men like bewbs

The_Kew_Tour

Is his Name Tiger Woods?

Duggy747

He's probably taking candid pics and videos of you and uploading them onto the web.

:eek:

You couldn't ask him for the website, could you?

Or more realisticly, you have nice bewbs and they've got him under their spell. He's a bloke, afterall. He's mentally collecting different angles of them to recreate a 3D image in his head when he makes a withdrawl from the ****-bank.

thermo66

OutlawPete wrote: »

Oh yes, Prof Rock who says Black People can never have wealth. They can be RICH, but only WHITE people can be wealthy.

Carry on ..



Yes, yes .. I agree with all his observations here, so what is your point??



.. I'm feel so sorry for you. It must sooo hard for you. Life is so cruel sometimes it makes me weep.



Yeah, SOME women compalin in online forums. I've read 'em .. a bunch of narcissistic stuck up precious little daddy's girls who need a good kick up the arse - the whole lot of them.



I'm sure you don't. You have no problem telling people to 'f**k off', as you so eloquently put it, becuase in this age you get away with it.

Would you tell a guy to '**** off' if you were alone in a strange place with not many around?? No, you wouldn't.

You would tell a guy to '****-off' cause you know society will bend over backwards to protect you. A bouncer will step in or another guy who wants to impress you prehaps but not because you deserve protection - please don't kid yourself on that score.

Your attitude toward women is funny outlaw!!! And by funny i mean weird!! Wonder why you bother with us at all! But whatever ...

southsiderosie

OutlawPete wrote: »

Oh yes, Prof Rock who says Black People can never have wealth. They can be RICH, but only WHITE people can be wealthy.

Carry on ..



Yes, yes .. I agree with all his observations here, so what is your point??



.. I'm feel so sorry for you. It must sooo hard for you. Life is so cruel sometimes it makes me weep.



Yeah, SOME women compalin in online forums. I've read 'em .. a bunch of narcissistic stuck up precious little daddy's girls who need a good kick up the arse - the whole lot of them.



I'm sure you don't. You have no problem telling people to 'f**k off', as you so eloquently put it, becuase in this age you get away with it.

Would you tell a guy to '**** off' if you were alone in a strange place with not many around?? No, you wouldn't.

You would tell a guy to '****-off' cause you know society will bend over backwards to protect you. A bouncer will step in or another guy who wants to impress you prehaps but not because you deserve protection - please don't kid yourself on that score.

I "get away" with telling people to **** off because most men who make inappropriate comments to women are rarely called on their BS and are stunned when someone throws it back in their face. That and I am about 6' tall in heels.

Chivalry is dead, sweetie. If a woman has any sense, she won't put herself in a position where she needs a man to rescue her out of some sense of duty. According to the comments on this thread, they will be too mesmerized by her breasts to do anything anyway.

Finally, I am sorry to inform you that your comments doom you to having seven daughters, all of whom will be leered at every day on their way to school by creepy 40 year old men who are "just doing what comes naturally". Good luck.

OutlawPete

thermo66 wrote: »

Your attitude toward women is funny outlaw!!! And by funny i mean weird!! Wonder why you bother with us at all! But whatever ...

I love women. Don't make the mistake of assuming all women argree with your comments, they don't.

Your just trying to make out like I have a problem with women so that they will back you up. I have a problem with women with attitudes like YOURS.

If you can't contradict my arguments then that is fine but I would appreciate if you didn't keep posting comments that imply that I have a problem with ALL women when nothing could be further from the truth.

Thank you.

thermo66

southsiderosie wrote: »

I "get away" with telling people to **** off because most men who make inappropriate comments to women are rarely called on their BS and are stunned when someone throws it back in their face. That and I am about 6' tall in heels.

Chivalry is dead, sweetie. If a woman has any sense, she won't put herself in a position where she needs a man to rescue her out of some sense of duty. According to the comments on this thread, they will be too mesmerized by her breasts to do anything anyway.

Finally, I am sorry to inform you that your comments doom you to having seven daughters, all of whom will be leered at every day on their way to school by creepy 40 year old men who are "just doing what comes naturally". Good luck.

LMAO!! And this is the post of the day!! Nuff said!

Night Outlaw :D:D

sparky360

you could cut the suxual tension between you two with a knife.....easy there tigers.....:D

OutlawPete

southsiderosie wrote: »

I "get away" with telling people to **** off because most men who make inappropriate comments to women are rarely called on their BS and are stunned when someone throws it back in their face.

Oh, so because THEY are the problem. Wouldn't be anything to do with the fact that you have a bag of potatoes on your shoulder now would it??

southsiderosie wrote: »

That and I am about 6' tall in heels.

Let me guess. It's 'Small Man Syndrome' right? :rolleyes:

southsiderosie wrote: »

Chivalry is dead, sweetie.

Not in my world .. 'sweetie'. If men aren't chivalrous to you then that maybe something to do with the fact that you are "secure" in "your bitchiness".

southsiderosie wrote: »

According to the comments on this thread, they will be too mesmerized by her breasts to do anything anyway.

So becuase Men like breasts, you think they would put up with your "bitchiness" do you?? Maybe at 2am on a Friday night they would .. but not in a relationship they wouldn't.

southsiderosie wrote: »

Finally, I am sorry to inform you that your comments doom you to having seven daughters, all of whom will be leered at every day on their way to school by creepy 40 year old men who are "just doing what comes naturally".

This paragraph reminds me so much of another poster.

Hhhmmmmm. Same kind of personal remark too.

Davidius

Boobs lol.

brendansmith

I Tidays!

sparky360

brendansmith wrote: »

I Tidays!

I choose too see that as "one is not greater than 3 titties" .............and I concur

Liam Byrne

southsiderosie wrote: »

Chivalry is dead, sweetie.

What a statement! Incorrect and patronising at the same time, and also ignoring the fact that women - in their search for "equality" (read "superiority as revenge for past wrongs") - don't seem to even want chivalry anymore!

I'd be "chivalrous" and helpful, so it's definitely not dead.

But likewise, I wouldn't offer to be "chivalrous" as often, because I'd likely get a patronising rant like the above from some raving feminist who viewed my offering help or holding a door open as an insult.

Bottom line is that women want it both ways......this being AH, that'll probably get a few smart replies, but the way that I mean it it's 100% true.....have your cake, eat it, and still fit into a size 8/10 dress! Want compliments and to be "noticed" (taking hours to achieve it) and yet object when they are :rolleyes:

A Primal Nut

maddogcollins wrote: »

Tell him to "take a picture, it will last longer"..that will embarass him and get your point across

He probably already has! Don't think this sounds like a man who is easily embarrassed.

Hal1

[quote=[Deleted User];63314121]What a stupid question. Boobs, we look, end of. It's nature. Its like if its itchy we scratch.[/quote]

Yea, scratch that's what we do. :rolleyes:

ch750536

Human female boobs evolved to what they are today partly to catch male attention.

Big breasts evolved because they had a high enough content in fat that the milk was of higher quality. This only got more emphasised when the first societies relied on men doing the hunting and women staying back and breastfeeding the young.

Lets not take the piss out of evolution, so cope with us staring at your specifically evolved male attractors.

TheZohanS

thermo66 wrote: »

LMAO!! And this is the post of the day!! Nuff said!

Not by a long shot.

Jimmy Bottlehead

More feminist chicks getting their size 16 knickers in a twist. Stop playing the "women are superior" card. You've tits, we like tits. If you weren't worth looking at, we wouldn't, so its a bloody compliment.

If you don't like it, cover up and let some other lucky chick enjoy the attention. Problem solved.

OutlawPete

thermo66 wrote: »

LMAO!! And this is the post of the day!! Nuff said!

TheZohan wrote: »

Not by a long shot.

Quite right Mr Zohan, quite right as I (The Outlaw Pete) have already been awarded that proud honour this very day by our esteemed resident speaker Mr Biggins.

Ahem ..

OutlawPete wrote: »

Look at the Greens.

Before they got in they were full of bulls*it about what they were going to demand from Fianna Fail and then they did squat.

They did so much back peddling since that, that they should be in Duffy's Circus.

Biggins wrote: »

Post of the day for me!
LOL Funny :pac: - but true!

/Bows

southsiderosie

Liam Byrne wrote: »

What a statement! Incorrect and patronising at the same time, and also ignoring the fact that women - in their search for "equality" (read "superiority as revenge for past wrongs") - don't seem to even want chivalry anymore!

I'd be "chivalrous" and helpful, so it's definitely not dead.

But likewise, I wouldn't offer to be "chivalrous" as often, because I'd likely get a patronising rant like the above from some raving feminist who viewed my offering help or holding a door open as an insult.

Bottom line is that women want it both ways......this being AH, that'll probably get a few smart replies, but the way that I mean it it's 100% true.....have your cake, eat it, and still fit into a size 8/10 dress! Want compliments and to be "noticed" (taking hours to achieve it) and yet object when they are :rolleyes:

Wow, so being told over 200 posts that women should just accept that men will stare at their breasts - oh, excuse me, tits - even though it makes them uncomfortable is not incorrect and/or patronizing? Take a look at the posts I was responding to - they were unbelievably crude and sexist. Either I could say what I really wanted and get thrown off of the boards, or I could at least try to leaven things with a bit of humor, and I chose the latter - including poking fun at myself. If it came across as condescending, well guess what - telling women they should appreciate it when men stare at them because they won't enjoy the attention for long or because "it's natural" is also incredibly condescending.

I don't just think chivalry is dead, I think most forms of civility are dead. Holding the door is not an insult. Holding a door and leering at a woman as she went by is - and according to the majority of the male posters on this thread, staring at a woman's chest is completely natural and appropriate.

I said in an earlier post that there are times when women may want to be complimented on their appearance. At a party, or at a bar, for example. And hopefully this "compliment" will go beyond "nice tits". But the OP was asking about a work-related situation, which is more touchy (no pun intended). And the comments I was responding to equated "compliment" with "staring". I strongly disagree.

Finally, to bring it back to the OP, is there any man on this thread willing to unequivocally state that staring at a co-workers breasts - not stealing a look , but repeatedly staring to the point where she is uncomfortable - is completely inappropriate?

Anyone?

Miami Weiss

[quote=[Deleted User];63314121]What a stupid question. Boobs, we look, end of. It's nature. Its like if its itchy we scratch.[/QUOTE]

This, why do women care so much for shoes?

TheZohanS

Miami Weiss wrote: »

This, why do women care so much for shoes?

I think they use them as as excuse to stare at their boobs on the way down. :pac:

southsiderosie

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

More feminist chicks getting their size 16 knickers in a twist. Stop playing the "women are superior" card. You've tits, we like tits. If you weren't worth looking at, we wouldn't, so its a bloody compliment.

If you don't like it, cover up and let some other lucky chick enjoy the attention. Problem solved.

Read the original post. She deliberately changed her wardrobe so as not to attract undue attention. And yet he still stared at her.

Read some of the other women's posts. One woman stopped exercising in public because she was sick of being ogled. That is a damn shame.

IT IS NOT A COMPLIMENT IF IT MAKES PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE.

And again, I'm condescending, yet the default insult in AH when a woman says something a man disagrees with is for him to accuse her of being a) fat, b) ugly, and/or c) some spoiled princess/daddy's girl/conceited bitch?!?!?! And someone is a "lucky chick" if they get stared at all day?

GTFOH.